I was just wondering if anyone has done this for the VG. Any real HP gains from it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA:IT&ih=006

 

So are you the @ss that beat me on that auction???? I hate you.

 

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

He who has the fastest connection wins

 

I bidded at the last 30 secs, then at the 5 sec mark.... Hope you don't care about your ac

 

Sorry goon I wish I woulda outbid some ******* instead of a fellow member for it. I thought the belt sizes were the only difference? I cant have my AC belt on now?

 

well if you dont want it because you cant have ac ill pay you 52 dolllars for it.....

 

haha..... do they make them for the VE?

 

lol, i almost bid on that just on principle. i knew it was going to go for cheap. i almost drove up the price just for the hell of it. then i realized i'd have no use for it if i won, and i'd probably be outbidding a fellow orger. i bought mine at full retail price plus shipping a bunch of years ago.

UR was the only option for vg's, but i think ve's had 2 or 3 options (cheaper too)

 

Yes...it's not UR that makes them tho, it's some other company...can't think of the name off the top of my head...

I have a UR pulley and think it's great...WAY lighter than the stock pulley, and the engine revs noticeably faster...

 

no, UR made them for the VE's as well. it's just that ASP made one for half the price. UR gave the choice of different colors, though. i'm not sure if ASP ever did. i remember the ASP pulley being under $100 and people selling their used ones for ~$50.

also, if memory serves me correctly, the ASP pulley had some kind of a design flaw

 

Wait, let me make sure I get this straight...If I were to get a UDP I'd have to get rid of my AC?

 

nope I have same UDP and my ac works perfect

 

juss making sure before i order one that if i do this im not going to be able to use my ac?? juss getting sum clearity

 

I don't think UR make pulley for VE, may be in the past but not any more. So ASP is our only choice for us VEs.
I too am in the market for a UDP for my car, as soon as i solve my engine problem that i post on another post.

 

still cannot find a udp online....and i'm normally pretty good at web searching.....any links?

 

http://www.internetautosupply.com/ca...1389_1390_1391 Brian still sells them

 

Dats for VG mang...

https://www.aspracing.com/ezRetail/s...php?msg_id=137

^^ for VE mang...

 

lol thought he wanted VG one lol my bad

 

so what's the design flaw?

 

The earlier versions leaked oil at the seal from the seal wearing on the aluminum crank. You could send them in to ASP and they would fix it for free by putting on a steel sleeve. I sent mine a long time ago in and it hasn't leaked at all. I am pretty sure they probably put a sleeve on all of the new ones. That was back in 03 or 04 that people were getting the leak.

 

so the 13% or 15% whichever it is reduction is worth the $120 i guess?!?!

 

Anyone have real numbers as far as hp/tq improvement goes? And does installing it REALLY mean no more ac?? If nForce was serious, I'm sorry for asking again, but i don't know what is supposed mean..

 

The ratio between pulleys changes, so a 15% might mean your AC will make 15% less revolutions per engine revolution than it did before, depending on how they measure 15%. Everything should still work fine, and everyone who has a UDP says everything still works fine. I dont have one but am installing it soon.

Under Drive Pulley: it "under-drives" compared to before.

 

Cool, thanks.

 

My AC works fine. I think some people have milled off the AC ribs from the UDP and took off the AC components (compressor) to increase hp to the wheels. Basically, just running a PS pump and alternator.

Everything on my car works as normal.

 

Power losses from the A/C are somewhat noticeable but typically no more than 12hp. The only time you'll find the A/C not operating as well as it did stock would be when at idle. As for your alternator, I'd be inclined to keep a close eye on this as running the A/C at idle means your alternator isn't producing as much beef either and this could end up costing you a flat battery on short trips.

To resolve that, I got a higher output alternator which I had to get repaired because the original supplier built it to be 90A (idle) and 180A (max speed) with a custom machined pulley about 25% smaller than the OEM alternator pulley but when I handed it into my local auto electrician we discovered he installed a cheap and nasty voltage regulator and the rectifiers were gone as well - all within almost 2 months or so from the day I received it. The smaller alternator pulley makes up for the loss I would otherwise experience at idle although it has managed to eat through a belt at around 5000kms because I suspect the 4 edges for the belt ribs appear to be a little sharper than typical. If it chews through another belt, I'll whack the pulley on a lathe and lightly sand down the edges to dull them down a little.

Thanks Mr. Irraggi.

In summary, the Unorthodox Racing pulley is well worth it and you will notice the difference off the line more than any other time. Just keep an eye on your battery voltage.

 

Ditto - No AC trouble on my old VG with it

 

I was JUST about to say this too!! Mine was fixed in person , no less, around the same time.

 

Correction

they did make "one" for the VE, I have the prototype still installed. I was the guinnea pig, where they took the measurements and we did before and after dyno runs. It makes around 10hp and 10lb tq. I have the dyno sheet somewhere, maybe I'll dig it up. They never put it into production, I had serious issues with the person who worked on my car (the same person who designed the pulley).

 

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I only said that to discourage him for BEATING me.

 

Man dude it must suck to be outbidden by a dollar (lmao) guess you should not have taken it for granted and bidded $55 but then again you didnt know, I think I've been out bidden by like 10 cents before and it really hurts

 

wierd. i guess i must have read about this in one of your threads or something. i could have sworn that the VE had more than one option for UDP's, though

 

eric93SE: i'm curious. were there any actual problems with the pulley? or did you just have some personal problems with the guy? just wondering why they never went into production

 

Just picked up a new Unorthodox udp for $80 shipped for my VE. Seemed like a pretty good deal.

 

Where??? I'm in the market for one.

 

UR doesn't make a UDP for the VE, and they appear to have stopped making it for the VG

 

Can't get them anymore, Brian?

 

eBay find, auction says "new in box" at least.

 

appears that way. UR pulled down the listing on their site, and so did my supplier.