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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Is there something wrong with these rotors/pads? (pics)

Bought the RTP zinc coated blanks and Axxis Deluxe pads for all four wheels. Got them installed and after driving about 15 mins, this is what they look like. At first, they sounded like they were wobbling because their was a pulsating scraping noise. I checked the rotors and as you can see from the pics, they look like they either bubbled (not sure if thats possible) or, well, I dont know what else. I tried scraping that "bubble" that you can see but it doesn't come off. The pics are from different rotors and they all have the same characteristics. What the hell is going on here?

Rotor 1


Rotor 1


Rotor 2


Rotor 2


Rotor 3
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Did you bed in the brakes w/a few good stops?
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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either you had chunks of sand/metal on your pads or the rotors are junk.

you might be able to have the rotors turned and grind those spots off, but otherwise those things are junk.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...820071653a.jpg
that picture makes me thing the rotors were bad to begin with.... looks like a bad spot in the disc itself.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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you gotta be carefull with new pads and rotors. you can glaze the rotors very easily. you dont wanna hammer on them and you dont want to let the pads drag too long while coming to a stop. aka. long gradually stop with brakes applied.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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I purchased these from a Maxima.org Sponsor so I'd like to see what he has to say about it. My mechanic (with 30+yrs of experience) bedded the brakes. I'm no expert, but I find it hard to believe that anything he did during that process caused these bumps on the rotors.

I'm extremely pi$$ed off...I'm leaving (DRIVING) to Florida this Friday and won't be back until late October. I have no time to get these replaced before then. I feel like I just got ripped off for $265 in parts and shipping, not to mention another $100 I spent to have the brakes installed.

I don't want to make any assumptions just yet, but I had a bad feeling when I took the rotors out of the packaging. They looked like they were spray painted silver...I've just never seen a rotor like that before. Anyone else ever purchase the RTP Zinc plated blanks? I'd like to get your take on the rotors.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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hey
it seems that the rotors on the bottom ( 2 pictures on the bottom)are defective , the top 2 are fine. we have a 30 days warranty against all defect. Once you file a RMA forum we can send you a new pair of rotors. you can goto www.racetechperformance.com for more infos on warranty parts. By the way the bottom 2 pictures are they the front or rear?

All our rotors are zinc plated to spec, they are not spray painted.

We haven't had any defective rotors for over 4 years.

sorry for the inconvinces.

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btw if you like to get more informations on brake disc please give us a call at 562-946-6003 we are here to help
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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Thanks for the quick response. I emailed you about how the blistering is on all 4 rotors, not just the front pair. Take a closer look at the top pictures, it isn't as apparent as the other pics due to lighting, but you can see them.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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thats fine, you can just fill out the RMA forum and we'll process the warranty exchange for you.

You can give us a call any time if you have any other questions and such.

I am very easy to find so yeah i'll take care of the situation for you no problem.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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updated with a few arrows to make it more clear
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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that stuff you pointed out is normal wear for brake in process.

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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I just received your e-mail and here is my reply.
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You will have to fill out the RMA form before we take any action in exchange, and there is no possible way we can give you the brembo for free, the blemish you pointed out is normal wear for brake in process.

The only thing we can do is give you a exchange for the rear rotors. Like I said we never had defective rotor before, this is the first. You want a set of brand new brembo is impossible for us to do, think about this, if Stillen sold you a defective exhaust they are not going to upgrade you a Greddy full cat back which is more expensive, just because the parts is defective. If we do give you the upgrade we are being taken advantage of. I have been on the forums for over 4 years I have excellent feed backs, but that doesn't mean I always give in to customers demand. However we will try our best to make things right.

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Like I said, we are simply a phone call away

p.s you'll have to send the rotors back for us to do a close inspection to finalize the RMA process.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Honestly, I'm not trying to be an @$$hole about all this, but don't make it seem like I am demanding an upgrade for the simple fact of upgrading. If I wanted the Brembos that badly, I would have payed the extra $18 total to begin with. I simply stated that I don't want to risk another problem with the RTP's. And I am well aware of your feedback rating, as it was one of the reasons I decided to purchase parts from you.

Also, I guess Im a little confused as to how you can claim that the bottom pics are defective rotors but not the top pics. You do understand that the "blemishes" on rotors 1 and 2 are raised structures dont you? They are they same types of "blemishes" that you call defective on the other rotors. I've got a mechanic with 30+yrs experience telling me that they should not look like that.

Obviously, I'm not going to be able to get this done before I leave, so I guess we'll get to see how normal the rotors are.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:06 PM
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I've bought about 2 or 3 sets of rotors from automax and never seen something like this on any of my installs. Very interesting.

I find it hard to believe that those bumps weren't noticed before they were installed. I think you should also speak to whoever installed them and make sure they knew what they were doing.

Some things to think about: You gotta clean off the rotors and/or pads before install. Bedding in is very important. In performance forums, they frown upon replacing both rotors and pads at the same time.

Good luck.

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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I am not making it to seems as a DEMAND it just sounded demanding when you send me the e-mail. You have to trust us on it that why I use the Stillen example, anyhow like i said if you need anything we are here to help and only a phone call away.

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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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thanks!
hows the clutch line holding up?
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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you definitely should've inspected the rotors before putting them on.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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I know your not trying to rip me off, I'm just frustrated. Didn't mean to come off as a jerk.

I did check them out before they went on and they looked structurally perfect. I watched the guy clean and put everything on...i dont know, let's just see what happens, I'll do the RMA form and take it from there.
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WOW, interesting read. Had the same thing happen with the same rotors and I had to immediately pull them off of a customers car. Everybody said the same thing to me, one duesch went so far as to say... "Oh you should have checked them for runout before installing".

Anyways in the end the customer was very unhappy with automax as he was only willing to send another set of rotors and made him eat shipping charges. The rotors weren't needed at that point, so I ended up being the nice guy and buying them off of him for what he payed, the rears I put on my '95 max and was upset that one of them has a ticking sound when braking, never bothered me enough to take the wheel off, find it, and smooth it out, but still. I still have the fronts sitting out back, they have followed me to the new garage as I'm scared to put them on a customers car and since they are 5th gen rotors I don't personally have a need for them.

I've dealt with ImportRP several times since then and have been very happy, he sells the same products and his customer service is way better.

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