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Old Aug 15, 2001 | 01:06 PM
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feel free to comment on why this is not worth doing or if it is worth a shot.....

so im driving and its really hot outside so im using my a/c.....i start to wonder about an idea.....i wanna tap into an a.c vent line ,probably the one between your legs under steering wheel.run an extension hose off of that and run it to my air filter in fender(my cai wsp..came with a filter that has hole in center not like k&n understand,if not go see website)anyway so im thinkin if i want true cold air ill just turn on my a/c blowing nice cold air into filter,and if i wanna go real fast ill put it on full blast a/c hehe ....yes i realize a/c takes power away but will i gain more power than i will lose is the question...or is this whole idea just crazy....dont ya like the way i think
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 01:49 PM
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i thought of that but it is not worth it. plus what would you tell people. Yeah so i have my a/c running in to my intake. plus are you going to run you a/c all the time? just somethings i was thinking.

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Old Aug 15, 2001 | 05:03 PM
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the power you would lose by having the A/C on would nullify the gains if any you would see...
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 06:15 PM
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Not worth it at all.Like Chris said you lose power with the A/C on anyway's.Just leave it alone I think I would rather have the cold air from the A/C in my car.
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 06:32 PM
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ehhh ,it was worth a shot,now i know my brain does not work
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 06:33 PM
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Maybe in the next 10+ years....

when all the gas powered cars go to the 40 volt system which places all engine turned accessories like A/C up to an electric motor to free up horsepower. Maybe then can we run an A/C unit into the intake. I'm for real on this, anyone else read it? Big write up a couple of months ago in my local paper with interviews from Ford, etc. The 40 volt system is in response to the increase in electrical apperatus in vehicles now and will free up horsepower and increase fuel economy by providing a more dependable power supply and a better/ more effecient spark. Very interesting.
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 06:45 PM
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what about hydrocell cars 0 emmissions...nothing but water vapor...i saw they have them in europe already ,and there quiet
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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I'm aware that there are non-gas powered cars out. But, there are two and I don't know their names. Toyota's will be out in the next year or two and I only caught the end of the announcement, something about water, but it said you would still have to go to a fueling station to fill up? Then there was another that was operational but no motor company had picked it up, something about heating up a canister of liquid nitrogen, turning it into gas which (like a steam engine) turned the engine and the nitrogen went out the exhaust harmlessly into the atmosphere? I caught that one, the Toyota one I missed most of it. About a year ago, some school took a VW bus or something and designed it to run off of used cooking oil from like fries and stuff. A heater liquified it and then the engine was designed to burn it. Do I smell Burger King? All three would benifit from the 40 volt system though! Technology!
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by 93 SE
feel free to comment on why this is not worth doing or if it is worth a shot.....

so im driving and its really hot outside so im using my a/c.....i start to wonder about an idea.....i wanna tap into an a.c vent line ,probably the one between your legs under steering wheel.run an extension hose off of that and run it to my air filter in fender(my cai wsp..came with a filter that has hole in center not like k&n understand,if not go see website)anyway so im thinkin if i want true cold air ill just turn on my a/c blowing nice cold air into filter,and if i wanna go real fast ill put it on full blast a/c hehe ....yes i realize a/c takes power away but will i gain more power than i will lose is the question...or is this whole idea just crazy....dont ya like the way i think
Its too hot these days to lose any cool air from the A/C.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:18 AM
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hmm, I think this sounds like a "poor man's turbo" kind of idea... Would've worked if the AC made the air even denser like a turbo or supercharger does. Problem is the AC is busy compressing the freon, not the air.... Hey, I wonder if you could get any valuable boost from replacing the AC pump with an air pump of some kind? Probably not or someone would've done that right?
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:23 AM
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The electric cars of the future will be utilizing FUEL CELL technology. Very small but very powerfull. Chemical reaction to make electricy and the waste as you guys mentioned is h20 (and others?) Bascily no ill emissions. It's a bit too pricey now. But some makers are using for energy sources for small buildings now.
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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you know, if it weren't for the wacko environmentalists we would be using nuclear batteries which would be THE way to go. a battery that would last longer than your car and even you for that matter. Encase it in lead and there you go.
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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you guys see the hydrogen oxygen car? all that comes out of the tailpipe is water. . . .
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Bman
Would've worked if the AC made the air even denser like a turbo or supercharger does. Hey, I wonder if you could get any valuable boost from replacing the AC pump with an air pump of some kind? Probably not or someone would've done that right?
Cold air IS denser and you can get valuable boost from an air pump.....a supercharger (just an oversized, belt driven, air pump).
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 09:20 PM
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Hey, if your AC's suckin' power, why not get a little bit of it back? I rarely notice the foot-vent on my side anyway. Why waste the cold air? It'd be an extremely cheap mod.
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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1. The current cars that are being prototyped are using hydrocarbon fuels still.. mainly natural gas and propane.
There are a few wacko cars out there that are under design, but the ones that will be hitting the market before long will be the natural gas cars.

FYI, you can still use the same engine as what you're using now.. just change the fuel delivey system and that's about it. you don't lose much power, and you gain a LOT of "greener" emissions.

How do I know this? Because that's what I'm doing at work. We're under contract to design the fuel sensor systems for several large automakers I'm not allowed to mention. (i.e. confidentiality rules.. if I say much more, I could be sued.. not just because I like to say stuff and not prove it).

blah blah blah..

as for the AC in the fender theory, the AC system is only about 50% efficient on a GOOD day.. that means that for every 1hp of gain you'll get from the cooler air, the engine spends 2hp to make it.

thus, the higher you turn the A/C, the less power your engine will make, even if you're piping ALL of the cold air back into it.
that's neglecting to mention the power required to blow the air in there in the first place. fans and ductwork.
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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Ummmmmmm hydrocarbon cars eh. Think it would be an awesome idea, so when you're low on gas and in the middle of nowhere, all you have to to is just fart into the fuel tank and boom you're all set to go again.
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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you hcould have a "Emergency Pack" in the glove box consisiting of 5 Chalupas from Taco Bell ....enough for 5 miles worth of fuel

Originally posted by maxima_dumby
Ummmmmmm hydrocarbon cars eh. Think it would be an awesome idea, so when you're low on gas and in the middle of nowhere, all you have to to is just fart into the fuel tank and boom you're all set to go again.
Old Mar 26, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by 93 SE
feel free to comment on why this is not worth doing or if it is worth a shot.....

so im driving and its really hot outside so im using my a/c.....i start to wonder about an idea.....i wanna tap into an a.c vent line ,probably the one between your legs under steering wheel.run an extension hose off of that and run it to my air filter in fender(my cai wsp..came with a filter that has hole in center not like k&n understand,if not go see website)anyway so im thinkin if i want true cold air ill just turn on my a/c blowing nice cold air into filter,and if i wanna go real fast ill put it on full blast a/c hehe ....yes i realize a/c takes power away but will i gain more power than i will lose is the question...or is this whole idea just crazy....dont ya like the way i think
you're thinking to much stick with the basics: CAI
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