I ran against the new NISMO Z Sunday!
I ran against the new NISMO Z Sunday!
I had the opportunity to run the new NISMO Z The car looks mean as hell lowered and everything! I did'nt have a chance to ask if the car was stock or not. My times were 13.41 @103MPH with the stock intake manifold and the Z ran 13.66 @ 100MPH on stock tires and rims. I was impressed by the Z running a 13.6 on stock tires, but disappointed with the trap speed. Since the car trapped at 100MPH I'm thinking the car was stock. My best run for the day was 13.30@104MPH my personal best on the stock intake manifold.
The 07 Z's are capable of low 13's easy stock. Thats actually the first time I've heard anyone take their nismo to the track. I wouldnt be surprised if they were a little slower than a regular Z due to the extra weight. With a better driver I think you and the nismo would be a good run. You testing out the stock IM now? Have you done the SSIM?
The 07 Z's are capable of low 13's easy stock. Thats actually the first time I've heard anyone take their nismo to the track. I wouldnt be surprised if they were a little slower than a regular Z due to the extra weight. With a better driver I think you and the nismo would be a good run. You testing out the stock IM now? Have you done the SSIM?
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I had to send the Kinetix back to get one of the welds repaired it was leaking at the front weld 3weeks ago so I,ve been running the Stock IM the Kinetix knocked off a 1/2 second on my ET. and increased my MPH by 4. So I'm not even thinking about doing anything to the Stock IM, just waiting for the Kinetix IM to come back so I can see 12's again
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.Just curious - how did you find the bad weld ??? Idle too high? You've had amazing success with your car, and you've worked hard to get it. I'm now eyeballing my wife's 2004 Maxima.
Well, that's interesting. Looks like the Kinetix intake is much better than people here thought it was.
Just curious - how did you find the bad weld ??? Idle too high? You've had amazing success with your car, and you've worked hard to get it. I'm now eyeballing my wife's 2004 Maxima.
Just curious - how did you find the bad weld ??? Idle too high? You've had amazing success with your car, and you've worked hard to get it. I'm now eyeballing my wife's 2004 Maxima.

Last edited by kevin007; Mar 11, 2008 at 08:03 AM.
good catch...lucky you found it early coulda been a lot worse..any videos of the run? love the sig by the way

Any upcoming mods that will further help your times?
Great runs man I see your still tearing it up! I know what you mean by the Kinetix going well with the nitrous. I noticed after I installed the Kinetix the car felt alot stronger with just a 50shot. I know quite a few people like the SSIM over the Kinetix but I love the Kinetix and the performance it gives. Keep up the good work Kevin.
I had the opportunity to run the new NISMO Z The car looks mean as hell lowered and everything! I did'nt have a chance to ask if the car was stock or not. My times were 13.41 @103MPH with the stock intake manifold and the Z ran 13.66 @ 100MPH on stock tires and rims. I was impressed by the Z running a 13.6 on stock tires, but disappointed with the trap speed. Since the car trapped at 100MPH I'm thinking the car was stock. My best run for the day was 13.30@104MPH my personal best on the stock intake manifold.
good job and keep at it ... what kind of gains can i expect with the injen intake, headers and a greddy exhaust? ... secondly, does the car have to be dynoed and re-programmed and or chipped to get the gains? ... im new and wanting to mod this thing up ...
thanks for any info ... i dont have enough posts to start a thread, so im chiming in when i see fit ...
thanks again ...
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No! MY Dyno results with the Kinetix are impressive NA makes 10WHP and 14Ft. Lbs, of torque over the stock intake and on Nitrous made 22WHP and 40Ft. Lbs of torque over the stock intake!
Thankyou for posting this Kevin! Some people do not beleive the Kinetix is that big of a help over the stock intake manifold N/A and especially on the nitrous. I've seen the same gains with my Kinetix vs my stock intake manifold so obviously the Kinetix is doing something right??
Thankyou for posting this Kevin! Some people do not beleive the Kinetix is that big of a help over the stock intake manifold N/A and especially on the nitrous. I've seen the same gains with my Kinetix vs my stock intake manifold so obviously the Kinetix is doing something right??
Last edited by kevin007; Apr 10, 2008 at 05:58 AM.
1000 dollars for 10 to 20 horsepower..."impressive" not found. Did you guys have stock intake set up before the manifold?
Everybody relax...I'm just curious...
If its worth it to you that's all that matters...
Everybody relax...I'm just curious...
If its worth it to you that's all that matters...
Your exactly right that's why I can spend my money on what ever I want and it shouldn't matter to you because it's my money and not yours. Obviously your the sensative one blowing kisses, what kind of s*** is that and still trying to prove a point about a damn intake manifold you dont have. What's the point, there is none!
Last edited by kevin007; Apr 10, 2008 at 01:26 PM.
Your exactly right that's why I can spend my money on what ever I want and it shouldn't matter to you because it's my money and not yours. Obviously your the sensative one blowing kisses, what kind of s*** is that and still trying to prove a point about a damn intake manifold you dont have. What's the point, there is none!
as far as that question goes it doesn't really matter. when has an air intake made a difference on a maxima or altima? the only thing you really get out of one is sound. and i have also seen the dyno difference between the stock in the kinetix on juiced-ser's car. i installed it for him and yes there is a difference. he got 20 whp out of that and a ypipe, and don't try to say it's the ypipe that made the difference they don't do too much without the headers on a 3.5. the biggest strong point of the kinetix is when there is a power adder. so on the bottle the car is pretty freaking quick. he's run a 13.2 at 107 with the kinetix, ypipe, catback, intake, and 50 shot. compared to the stock intake manifold i believe his best was about a 13.8 not sure on the mph. seriously why hate on this manifold. yes the ssim works great and is a lot cheaper than the kinetix but at the same time these guys have the ability to go back to stock completely and people that do the ssim can not without buying another intake. so please stop questioning the manifold. yes it's exspensive but it does what it claims to do which is make power. i will go back and find the dyno graphs between the stock and kinetix hopefully saturday when i have time to find them and load them up.
ok you got me there but to me i don't think that the SSIM even if it's ported and polished could do what the kinetix does power wise. i'll try to see if i could get another friend of mine that has an altima se-r as well, if i can go through and do the SSIM to his manifold. both of the cars have the same mods except the IM so it should be good enough for a comparison dyno. i'm not goin say that this is for sure but i'll try my best that way we can have two pretty much identical cars and get them dyno'd on the same day on the same dyno. hopefully that will be enough to put this argument to rest.
ok ok.. im gonna stop this all in all.. once juiced se-r gets his dyno this weekend.. im gonna school you guys on intake manifold design.. im tired of ppl callin out that IM and saying its not a good mod when it is... i can agree that right now it is an expensive mod.. but what new performance part isnt when it first comes out.. but if youre gonna compare apples to apples then keep it apples to apples.. fact is SSIM vs Kinetix IM.. Kinetix WILL own everytime.. im so tired of ppl talking down about something they know nothing about.. stay tuned for schooling and then all this can be put to rest
Why are you guys getting so defensive? Is there something wrong with me being interested? If you went from a completely stock set up to a full aftermarket setup on the intake assembly AND a y pipe how can you account all of the horsepower gain on the Kinetix manifold. This is a genuine question, there is no reason this should hurt your feelings.
There is no argument here. I dont have a kinetix manifold NOR have I ever seen one in person/riden in a car with one etc. I read that the gains were minimal to none/not worth the thousand dollar price tag and I just want to see hard proof of it. Once you throw in other variables, your claims really arent as rock solid.
I'll be looking out for the dynos though
There is no argument here. I dont have a kinetix manifold NOR have I ever seen one in person/riden in a car with one etc. I read that the gains were minimal to none/not worth the thousand dollar price tag and I just want to see hard proof of it. Once you throw in other variables, your claims really arent as rock solid.
I'll be looking out for the dynos though
ok ok.. im gonna stop this all in all.. once juiced se-r gets his dyno this weekend.. im gonna school you guys on intake manifold design.. im tired of ppl callin out that IM and saying its not a good mod when it is... i can agree that right now it is an expensive mod.. but what new performance part isnt when it first comes out.. but if youre gonna compare apples to apples then keep it apples to apples.. fact is SSIM vs Kinetix IM.. Kinetix WILL own everytime.. im so tired of ppl talking down about something they know nothing about.. stay tuned for schooling and then all this can be put to rest
I understand that people value things differently...if 1000 dollars for 10 whp is worth it to you then so be it...I however dont feel it is. I wouldnt pay a grand for 22 whp either.
but thats my opinion. Maybe one day i'll be ballin like you guys.
i'm not getting defensive, but i have first hand knowledge on this product. so i will let you know. the previous dyno with the stock manifold was with a nismo air intake. so the only difference between the two dyno's that i was talking about earlier was the kinetix and the ypipe. and like i also said before and what has been stated by other members is that the kinetix produced more power when a power adder was put into the equation. i don't believe that the manifold is 1000 bucks. also since i have stated that i have seen around a 20whp gain out of the manifold and people say that it's worthless or not worth the money, then why is it worth the money to pay a 1000 bucks for cattman headers? reason being is because they produce power. it's amazing. we know the kinetix is exspensive but for the people that have it and have put on a dyno we know it works and works really well i think. anything that is going to make power on a maxima is going to be exspensive. the people that make it have to pay for the r&d that went into it. so hopefully i can get the dyno graphs posted up so that we can compare the stock manifold to the kinetix and compare the kinetix to other dyno's with the ssim.
I want someone to quote where one post in this thread has been made that justifies everyone getting their panties in a bunch. If your so positive the kinetix manifold produces gains why not just get the proof and show it?
I understand that people value things differently...if 1000 dollars for 10 whp is worth it to you then so be it...I however dont feel it is. I wouldnt pay a grand for 22 whp either.
but thats my opinion. Maybe one day i'll be ballin like you guys.
I understand that people value things differently...if 1000 dollars for 10 whp is worth it to you then so be it...I however dont feel it is. I wouldnt pay a grand for 22 whp either.
but thats my opinion. Maybe one day i'll be ballin like you guys.all of this frustration is built up off of other ppl not giving credit where credit is due.. that is why xlcrew and juiced se-r are a little touchy of the subject.. is because as you said ppl have 'claimed' that the gains are minimal.. or that this is a worthless mod.. the manifold is expensive but no where near a worthless mod.. but yes all this will be proven once he gets his dyno tmrw.. the fact that makes me mad is that everyone seems to know that this IM is crap.. but no one has the proof to back that theory up either.. so again most of this is not directed mainly at you.. its just been a long time coming and settling this argument will be done tmrw.. but until then dont talk bad about something you know nothing about.. just because you read it somewhere with no actual proof.. thats why they got mad at you
People have their own opinion about the kinetix intake vs the stock manifold whp is not the only gain I got from the Kinetix, I will say this again, my gains NA were 10WHP and 12Ft. Lbs of Torque, on the bottle 22WHP and 40 ft. lbs. of torque. The cost of the Kinetex was $800 not 1,000. People buy catback exhaust for that price and they dont make 10WHP. When I dynoed with the Kinetix I posted the results and people still raised an eyebrow. I,m sure as hell am not going to dig up a dyno sheet just to prove a point that is going no where. So while your still skeptical about it that's on you, but in the mean I time will continue to enjoy the awesome gains the Kinetix is making for me no matter how much I paid because it is my money and it was a great investment for me me me me! So when your ready to talk sensible about it then I will consider telling and showing all I now about it, but even then it still wont matter and again so what's the point 
Last edited by kevin007; Apr 18, 2008 at 12:49 AM.
Thank you 97Maximus and xlcrew for the mature responses. Your doing a good thing for the community by providing these tests. And I AM greatful that aftermarket companies are taking the time to invest in Maxima parts. It just irritates me that a company would produce something that provides no gains and puts a high price tag on it...but if thats not the case with this manifold then I guess there is nothing to be irritated about here.
As far as comparing it to cattman headers...I personally wouldnt spend that much on exhaust either. I'm not going to go any further into that though because you were up at 3 AM responding...I dont want you losing sleep over it anymore, Kevin.
As far as comparing it to cattman headers...I personally wouldnt spend that much on exhaust either. I'm not going to go any further into that though because you were up at 3 AM responding...I dont want you losing sleep over it anymore, Kevin.
Thank you 97Maximus and xlcrew for the mature responses. Your doing a good thing for the community by providing these tests. And I AM greatful that aftermarket companies are taking the time to invest in Maxima parts. It just irritates me that a company would produce something that provides no gains and puts a high price tag on it...but if thats not the case with this manifold then I guess there is nothing to be irritated about here.
As far as comparing it to cattman headers...I personally wouldnt spend that much on exhaust either. I'm not going to go any further into that though because you were up at 3 AM responding...I dont want you losing sleep over it anymore, Kevin.
As far as comparing it to cattman headers...I personally wouldnt spend that much on exhaust either. I'm not going to go any further into that though because you were up at 3 AM responding...I dont want you losing sleep over it anymore, Kevin.
Last edited by kevin007; Apr 18, 2008 at 07:13 AM.
Second of all stop thread hopping with B*******! and Third go buy your own Kinetix and dyno it yourself and then post a thread in the Dyno section the right way and then you will start to show some maturity





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