Nothing spectacular being as the car is nothing spectacular right now, but it's up and running well (knock on wood) which is all I care about at this point.

The setup in my car right now is as follows.

2002 VQ35
3.0 cams
USIM (you wouldn't believe how mismatched the ports are between a USIM and 3.5 heads, lol.)
Emanage Blue - AFR tuned to 13.3 at WOT, unable to advance timing for an unknown reason (car will chug and die if I try to advance timing even 2 degrees).
Z32 370cc injectors (because those are the only side feed injectors I had laying around to get the car up and running).
Quickie homemade intake, ypipe, exhaust.
2810lbs - no weight reduction.

You may ask why I took the above shortcuts - the answer is that I was doing the swap at a friend's place, 2 hours away from my own house. I had to get the car out of his garage that weekend and just get it driveable so that I could take it back to my place.

3.0 cams meant that I didn't need to make spacers, swap cams, etc. 3.0 intake manifold meant I didn't need to swap LIM, didn't need to make an IACV plate, didn't need to wire/plumb the 3.5VI, etc. I am going to have a custom intake manifold made, but as usual these things take time, and the guy who will be designing it is busy designing some other very complicated items right now(much more complicated than an intake manifold) and doesn't currently have time.

Now that the car is up and running well I am going to get the 3.5VI on the car and working, which will of course require a full retune of the car as I'll have different sized injectors, better VE and much more power up top, etc.

I don't like making excuses, but for this particular track session I have to complain about traction. I was cutting better 60' times last year at this track in my beater max on all season tires (2.07s, multiple times) than I did yesterday on DRs in my 3.5 max - no matter how hard or soft I launched, I could not get traction in 1st or 2nd gear. It was a spin/wheelhop fest.

Density Altitude was 1200' (61*, 30.02 inHg, 31* dewpoint).

Anyhow enough with the excuses, here was my best time (on the left).

 

Very impressive man. Those 4th genners are lighter than i thought. Any luck on finding why you had problems advancing the timing?
Dont beat yourself up over those 60fts i think theyre pretty good.

 

Still damn good times especially on the 3.0 UIM/cams!! I am very curious to see what this thing will be capable of NA with the 3.5 VI + cams or with your custom intake manifold.

Does it still feel very restricted top end like the 3.0 with the USIM?

 

Yea Neal . You made a better run than my turboed 3.0 as far as e/t. I dont know what was with the track yesterday but no one could get traction. But hey i will see how bad it is this coming weekend with the black car since i didn't get a chance to run the grey one.

 

way to slow....



nahh i'm just kidding. nice runs, are you running the stock rev limit with eb? can you even change the rev limit with eb?

 

Thats pretty good with the USIM on there.

 

Probably a dumb question but is this a full swap(wiring harness and all)?

 

not a stupid question at all, since he used the 3.0 cams i would assume he is doing the normal 3.5 swap with 3.0 timing

 

It feels more restricted. Which would only make sense because it's got the USIM and all it's inherent shortcomings, plus the added problem of ports that are mismatched by like 4mm on each side. It wheezes bad. I shift at redline in 1st but then like 6000 and 5600-5800.

It's using 3.0 timing equipement and all - hence the use of 3.0 cams, 3.0 IACV, USIM, etc. A full swap would not use any of those things (well you could but you'd be doing lots more work and making way less power).

no, you can't change the rev limit with it. I can't add timing either which is annoying. When I try to increase timing the car bogs and dies. I don't know how dandymax was successful with it. 3.0 timing is of course less aggressive than 3.5 timing is as well so there is a lot to be gained with advanced timing, but right now that's not working for me.

 

im jealous. you ran a better time than I ever have on my 3.5 swap (untuned though not sure that would make a second of difference?)
looking forward to some better times once you get it all straight!

 

Ahh ok obviously I still have some more research to do. I just thought this was a temporary setup since you had to get the car out of friends driveway.

 

if you are running so rich or lean that it is hurting your power then the tune could bite u in the rear at the track.

but if neal isnt adding timing or reving higher then i assume his gains come from pulling or adding fuel

 

yeah i hear ya...we shall soon find out!

 

If you do a full swap you don't have to open up the engine at all. You just put it in the car and plug it in.

 

Impressive times for that VQ hybrid/frankenstein. Keep up the good work.

 

Ooh I got it now. Thanks.

 

I thought with Emanage blue timing advance was not possible? iv tried doing the same when i first rigged mine up and didnt work either. You sure you can advance it?

 

Nice times man

 

there have been a few threads about dandymax's advancing the timing on his buddy's 5th gen with emanage blue...

 

Hmmmm.... That is odd Neal. I was there that night and you ran in the right lane the whole time, and you had a #50 on your car. Mid 14's are not that bad, nothing to be ashamed of.

 

Interesting, ill look them threads up cuz i dont know how it can advance timing without the EM getting any log or input for timing. i do remember something mentioned though ill look it up.

I30tMikeD, he ran 13's on the left int he sheet 13.6

 

He knows, he's just busting my ***** like he always does. I think he may be

 

I think Mike is right.................. This car of Neal's does not exist. It's only a figment of our imagination.

 

I'm surprised/impressed that you managed to nearly gain 20mph in the last 1/8 despite the current state of your setup...excellent job....

 

Is your lower intake manifold still sitting in my garage, i know the 350z one is. If so dont forget it this weekend.. that or install it all when your down here.

 

John still had it when I took the car from your house so it's either at your place or his. The injectors and fuel rail too (I don't think we ever removed the fuel rail/injectors from the lower intake manifold).

 

Just curious, why are you making way less power with a full swap? Are the 3.0 components better or something?

 

"full swap" is a rewire of the car to use the 3.5 timing equipment and ECU. If i did the full swap rewiring procedure and used 3.0 cams and usim and all that crap i would be taking one step forward and three steps back, doing more work and making my car slower than it would be if you did the full swap and left all the 3.5 stuff in place. the 3.0 stuff is not as good as the 3.5 so there would be no reason to ever do a full 3.5 swap and use anything from the 3.0. with a full swap you don't need to open the motor up at all.

 

Nice times for a fairly bootlegged setup..

 

Oh I see what you are saying. You would be making more power though with the 3.5 cams and intake though right?

 

Guaranteed.

 

Sorry one last question. When you say rewire the whole car does that mean just making sure each wire that goes to the ecu is properly matched up with the new ecu?

 

isnt it rewiring engine and dash harness alone with whatever you stated? i forgot?

 

Sort of. The full swap requires that you use the engine harness from the 3.5 engine and also use the main dash harness and ECU from the 5.5 gen maxima. But this also requires using more parts from the 3.5, such as e-gas pedal, key, NATS immobilizer, etc.

 

Neal is probably the best driver (on track) then any one on here... he ran such a fast time stock and such a fast time with this rigged up setup... I think if its anyone who is capable breaking the 10's it would be him.

 

It's a decent time, yes, but I don't think 13.6 is overly fast for that "rigged setup" on a 2800 lb car. I don't mean to take anything away from Neal, but that's my opinion.

In general I'd say there are 3 or 4 guys (that I can think of) that are all excellent drivers and capable of posting stellar times for a given setup they have to work with if the track prep and DA are favorable, but Neal is certainly one of them.

 

The thing people don't understand with "bootlegged" 3.5 swaps like this is that there really isn't much liberty in what you can run with the low peak RPMs (around 5500). Peaking at 5.5k fawking sucks. Getting good times out of a V6 is all about producing peak torque at the highest possible RPM. And there just isnt much you can do with the crappy cams, crappy peak RPM and crappy 6550 rev limiter.

But your 60 foot still sucks

 

ever get that ssim on and the 3.5 heads? this car would do big things!

 

the car has always had 3.5 heads, just a 3.0 intake manifold. haven't gotten any different intake mani on yet, no time right now.

 

^ check ur pms