i went to get a oil change and inspection on my car and the dude at beinner nissan told me that if i get pulled over and they saw the tank, you can get your car taken from you cause you need a license to carry nos.

where can anyone apply for this license?

 

I heard something about getting it from some environmental place...will check.

Erik

 

it varies from state to state..

in NJ you need a permit
in NY?
in CT you need to have a blow down tube


NOS is illegal for street use, however its not illegal to have in the car

 

I know that in some states you just have to have a comressed gas plackard on your car. there are small 3 inch ones that attach to your rear plate.

 

Yea, as Sprint said, in NJ you need a permit. As long as you have the permit, you acn carry it in teh car and use it only for the track. The bottle cannot be open during street driving.

I got my permit from a sheep shop. Any auto store that fills up NOS should have a form that you fill out and apply for a permit. They give anyone a permit.

*Note*This is for NJ only.

 

Must be some fast Sheep with NOS? J/K

 

Would it be a HazMat permit?
I hope you guys know there are stiff penelties for going through tunnels and bridges with hazmat.

 

So its illegal to run NOS on the street even in the US? Thats surprising considering how popular it is from what I've read, thought it must have been completely legal.

Unfortunately the fines are huge for using NOS on the street anywhere in Oz, in the thousands of $$$. You can have the hardware installed but the lines must be disconnected at all times. Some people still run it but the random roadworthy stations/checks make it risky.

 

keep the tank in the back seat. unscrew the lines if you get pulled over. dont forget to close the bottle!

 

what is the deal with a remote bottle opener/closer.....

in nj can u use it on the street and then remotly close the bottle if you get stoped?

just wondering how well that would work

jersey

 

I read today that the Bay bridge in Maryland was closed for 2 hours yesterday while the bomb squad defused a NOS bottle from a wrecked Accord. I guess it's not legal in Maryland anymore...****

 

They needed the bomb squad to defuse it? I guess they didn't know that NOS is not explosive, or did they mistake it for a bomb....to me it would've made more sense to call the haz-mat team...

 

is it illegal to have NOS in CA? or is it ok to have it in the car, but not connected?

 

from people who I talked to is that you can have it but it cannot be connected while on the street

 

Nitrogen, is an explosive. What do you think McVeigh used in Oklahoma City? Fertilizer, right? active ingrediant? Nitrogen, in it's gas form, I would imagine it's volatle(sp). We use it as an combustion additive to make our NOS cars go really really fast. When it ignites it burns hotter and quicker. So I guess that is why they called in the bomb squad. I also guess thats why they don't consult you to do THEIR job.

 

yeah i thought the same thing, remember that Maxima that had NOS and blew up the garage?

 

Hmmmmm yeah it was. But like Gotsmarts4 said, it's not an explosive...

 

N20 is a stabile gas... nitrogen by itself is explosive, but not when combined with an oxygen molecule. Do you know what H20 is? of course you do it water, but it's not explosive b/c it is combined with molecule of oxygen, making it stable, if you don't believe me go light some water. Same thing with Nitrous oxide, go light it, nothing will happen. N20(or other wise know as NOS in the import community) is not explosive and is not used b/c it is a "combustion additive," it is used b/c it safely introduces more oxygen into the combustion camber, like supercharging or turbo charging. N20 itself is not explosive. When you here of nitrous oxide explosions is when the bottle gets to hot or when a backfire occurs in an engine. Did i say i wanted to be a consultant of the bomb squad? No...but by what you said, you prolly shouldn't be either

 

Smack Down... Im confused still, i always thought NOS could blow with fire how about when you get in an accident?

 

nice rebutal, well I know what H20 is, and I don't see a N in that so I'll just leave that one alone. And since I'm obviouly not up on my periodic table, what does the Nitrogen have to do with the introducing Oxygen to the chamber? Why not run O2? and if the Nitrogen is used to stabalize the O2, then where does the Nitrogen go? Since it's not used in the explosion of the chamber?

 

Nitrogen is an inert gas. It's like 80% of the air we breathe. Its not explosive by itself no matter what you try to do to it. It is combined w/ some other element and its usually the other element that causes the combustion. For example nitrogen fertilizer explodes b/c it contains NH4+ which breaks down to 4 hydrogens and a nitrogen which can react explosively w/ oxygen. The reason why N20 explodes sometimes is b/c the bottle is under extreme pressure and rupturing it can cause the damage. In the engine, the N20 breaks down at high temps into N2 and O2 which is extra oxygen for the combustion process and that's what is burned by the combustion process. This process also dumps a lot of waste NOX gases which is why its illegal for the street in addition to its street racing roots.

The reason why you don't run O2 is b/c that stuff would explode long before it made it into the combustion chamber and probably blow up the car immediately. You could inject it directly into the chamber and it might work but oxygen is much more dangerous to have around in highly pressurized form (the shuttle Challenger?).

This is all from my freshman chem class so its been a while. You can ask Shadow since he's a chemical engineer and he should remember this stuff.

 

brothers/brothers? shadow/mishap

 

if nos isnt explosive, how come vin diesel yells "Nos!" right before the car blows up? I thought for sure he had some merit to that comment...

 

No nitrus is not explosive. But the nitrus that is in NOS kits are compressed. The nitrogen I use at work to fill up aircraft tires is considered non-flammable hazmat.
Why do people put n20 in their car? to aid in combustion right? (nitrus has more o2 molecules per sq" than air)So Having more O2 molecues and it being compressed makes for a bigger explosion than there would normally would be.

 

Phehe... I've a state ¡°weapon carry permit¡±¡¦ does it means I could carry my NOS bottle concealed legally, too?

 

You could have obviously gone with out the name calling and trying to correct me if i was wrong... I was just trying to state a fact, which i was correct in saying... My whole comment of H20 was, Hydrogen which is highly explosive in its pure form, is fully stabile when added to oxygen, hence water. Molecules take on different forms when added with other molecules. Since i'm not an expert on the subject, we should all ask Shadow to elaborate on the subject...Shadow

 

You are correct, I apologize and retract my statement. The explaination of how NOS works was and is totally off. I guess thats what I get for taking the word of VW owner. Again, I'm sorry.

 

ok you chem majors...

here's the skinny on N2O (AKA NOS).

basic theory of flame/fire. any fire/flame need a oxygen source to burn.
when N2O is used in a car engine here's what happens..
the N2O actually breaks up during combustion (or approx 570 degrees F). the O (oxygen) is what gets burnt during combustion. the N2 acts as a catalyst...(cools the combustion process). like someone said earlier..it just gets shot out of the tailpipe w/ other emission gasses.
why can't u use straight oxygen? well pure oxygen is highly flamable. besides the point that your engine will burn out within 5 minutes of use. you're basically carrying a bomb in your trunk because it's so flamable.
nitrous oxide in your trunk is a bit more stable than having straight oxygen in your trunk.

 

No apologize is necessary, was just trying to help a brotha out. It is easy to confuse how nitrous oxide works. In the beginning i didn't know how it worked either, but if you go to the NOS site, it has a lot of helpful information, where i learned a lot of the stuff i know.

 

I read the MArdigras write up. I even went as far as to buy a kit. I chickened out of the instal of the kit when I couldn't get the JWT upgrades that I wanted, so I sold it to the VW guy up the street. He's the one that was telling me about it. But now I just have to worry about him blowing all of our cars up... Knucklehead...

 

ask medicsonic about nos bottle and bomb squads.

 

NOS is not explosive?

 

it's only an accelerant, it's non-flammable by itself.

 

how about when people get rear ended and everything goes bye bye.. is that all myth?

 

If you've ever watched the science experiments where sodium chlorate is burned, you'd see that it produced an enormous amount of energy. You release the oxygen in sodium chlorate by heating it. It turns out that nitrous oxide (N20) works exactly the same way. When you heat nitrous oxide to about 570 degrees F, it splits into oxygen and nitrogen. The injection of nitrous oxide into an engine therefore means that more oxygen is available during combustion. Because you have more oxygen you can also inject more fuel, and that means the same engine can produce more power. Nitrous oxide is one of the simplest ways to provide a significant horsepower boost to any gas engine.
Nitrous oxide has another effect that improves performance even more. When it vaporizes, nitrous oxide provides a significant cooling effect on the intake air. When you reduce the intake air temperature you increase the air's density, and this provides even more oxygen inside the cylinder.

 

I see

 

BUMP

 

The n2o is compressed. Want an example you can do at home? Take a can of pepsi, shake it and hit it with a hammer.
Be sure to clean up afterwards.

 

I agree nos will explode only b-c it is presurized it says on the bottle that it is a oxidiser. sorry bout the spelling

 

state trooper was eyeing me last night because i had the gauge pod

he was just looking for a reason to pull me over and search my trunk.. good thing i am calm and i just cruised ahead of him during traffic.. after he was side by side with me and he looked over.. then got behind me for 3 miles.. then he got off the exit... even though his lane was initially moving faster.. good thing i didn't indicate he could have used the white markers as an excuse to pull me over and search me :eeK: