Went the track yesterday and ran 13.26 @ 101.44. 1.816 60' time. I borrowed a set of 24.5x8" M&Hs from a local guy.


This was the first time I've ever run NA on slicks with a good clutch so I wasn't being aggressive enough I don't think - I was still launching like I did with my turbo car and like I did in my old NA car with the stock clutch which was a 5500rpm slip-dump. I could have launched from a higher RPM I believe and not had a problem pulling consistent 1.7s. I pulled a 1.78 on my last pass being a little more aggressive than my first 3. My first three were all 1.80, 1.81, and 1.82 60's.

I also realized after my last run that I was shifting way too late. Not having run your car in a long time causes you to forget these things. When I went to the track on street tires in the spring I was shifting around 5800rpm from 2-3 and 5600rpm from 3-4 if I recall correctly, but last night I was shifting at more like 6200rpm for both of those shifts. With the powerband of this USIM on the 3.5 and how severely the intake ports are mismatched from the LIM, I believe this does make a significant difference. Guess I just had a lot on my mind last night and wasn't really analyzing my runs like I usually do.

I think if I went to the track again with the car set up exactly as it is right now I could squeek into the 13.1s. I think it's got a little bit left on the launch and definitely has a little left with revised shift points, but I doubt I'll be able to get to the track again with this setup to test that theory. I'll probably be putting that 3.5IM on soon (didn't do it last weekend like I had planned).

edit: forgot to add the conditions. 63*, 30.23 inHg, 51 dewpoint and an 800' track makes for a DA of 1060 feet. Pretty good air but not out-of-this-world good.

 

Dude....How do you do it.

 

5500 slip-dump FTW Get that SSIM on there and get that 12.

 

you're insane

 

Neal, your freakin insane man....i don't know how you do it.....very impressive

 

great job on that neal!

questions, are you doing any sort of weight savings for these all-motor runs? are are they full trim full tank of gas things?

 

I had a little less than half a tank of gas. I don't do any weight saving crap anymore. Haven't done any of that stuff since 2004 when I ran my old car. My car has a stock hood back on it now too, got rid of the CF hood. It's a stock weight car except for the wheels and not having AC, so probably 60-80lbs lighter than a bone stock one.

 

neal could you post the rest of your slip up? i was curious about 1/8mile, trap speed,and 1000ft....

 

i've got it in the first post now.

 

Thats freakin retarded!!!!

 

dang Neal....your a freakin awesome driver....and 3.5 swaps are more potent than i thought....

how much does your car weigh Neal?

 

Great ET, umm 13.2 @ 101mph seems very odd tho. I hope the 3.5 IM puts the trap at the proper 104-6 it should be for yah. Nice 60' times.

 

So you trying to pull better 60fts than me on the same tires Neal lol. Im glad Jason got them to you man. Great times also.

 

There's nothing odd about it. The times/trap are a result of his particular powerband. If he had the power to trap 104-6 he'd be deep into the 12's.




It's official. Turds can indeed be polished. I keed. Sick times.

 

nice

 

nice

 

I suppose, but when I see 13.2s-13.5 the car is usually trapping 103-106. There is an 08 Altima on here doing 14.1-14.2 @ 101mph. Thats why it seemed odd to me. I guess its just all to how well he got off the line. With street treads he might have been in the upper 13's

 

nice always impressive

 

Still don't see why it's odd though. He's running on slicks and that motor has no top end at present. Cause and effect.

 

but the car is mad light in full trim correct

either way great times and nice mph gain from the 1/8 to 1/4 mile for a n/a maxima

 

You didnt see his post, about how mis-aligned the ports are with the VQ30 LIM and 3.5 heads. He was in a rush to get it done, so he just bolted what he had on.

Those are some sick times given he has some god awful top end. Cant wait to see the full 3.5 intake manifold on there.

About the SSIM. Im sure i remember Neal reading out there, that its not definitive proof that the SSIM makes your car quicker/faster in the 1/4, rather then give you numbers. area under the curve?

 

Very nice Neal.

Now that you aren't "under the gun" go and do the reverse of what I did, and pust up the graph's of it.............

 

I ran 13.60 @ 103 with my street tires. Nothing's changed since then except for bolting on the slicks and the fact that I was shifting too late on wednesday night I think. If I'd been shifting at the proper time I'd probably have been trapping 102-103 like the last time I was at the track.

 

Nice times.
I know hal Hal stripped that car to make 2800lbs with a turbo set-up
How much does your car weight now neal.? I will be heading to the track with a similar setup & was wondering what I need to do to even get close to these time N/A
4.5 gen ssim fidanza flywheel 13.0-13.4 afr K sports, MT DR's, full interior.

 

Neal does it again! Maybe if you boost it you'll be able to see over 120 mph trap speeds.

 

I gotcha.

 

I was well over 120mph on the 3.0

 

Its ~2860lbs right now race weight. That's no weight reduction besides the missing AC components (compressor, condensor, lines which total probably 30lbs) and the light wheels. It doesn't have a spare tire either. Not a single other thing is removed from the car.

Stock 95-96s are between 2850 and 2900lbs, so any 4.5 gen should be capable of these times, actually quicker with the 3.5 intake manifold.

 

I do not understand, so how does the car weight more now n/a than a stock 95-96 now without the a/c and it weight equal or less than a 95-96 with a turbo kit and full trim

what am I missing here

 

I don't know what you're missing. Take a loaded SE with all options which weighs about 2900lbs, subtract about 40lbs for the fact that it has lighter wheels and no AC, and you get 2860lbs. i don't understand what's confusing to you...

 

I was confused cause I looked at a vid and hal had a pic of the car at a weight station in full trim with the turbo installed and it was like 28XX range forget cause it was late

So I figured the car should even lighter now without the turbo and all the piping

is this the same car or something different

 

it is the same car. I think he had a picture of it weighing 2840. remember that setup wasn't some ridiculous reverse-Y pipe setup with 800 feet of extra piping wrapping all back and forth for the entire length of the engine bay, that setup had way less total piping than a stock max does because it had no exhaust at all.


the turbo stuff weighs only about 35lbs probably. really all there is to it is the turbo and IC. turbo probably 20lbs, IC probably 15lbs. and maybe 5lbs of intake piping.

also you can't compare different vehicle scales down to very small increments. 10lbs here 10lbs there on a 3000lb vehicle is like comparing one pound here, one pound there when you use different bathroom scales to weigh yourself. you don't freak out if one scale says you weigh 168 and another says you weigh 169.

 

Nice time Neal, you can sure tell the powerband by looking at the slip.

However, gotta disagree with your weights, at least for later 4th gens, I can't see a loaded SE weighing as little as 2900. My 98, fully loaded stock SE back in the day before all the mods, coilovers, exhaust etc was ~3200 lbs with 1/2 tank of gas and spare tire still in. Weighed on an accurate truck scale.

 

This is what I found
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1997/nis...284/specs.html

Curb Weight: 3097 lbs

I had my car weight at a scrap metal yard and they even notorized the slip and it was 3360 with me in it. the was with rims, 12inch woofer and a nitrous bottle and I am about 190-200lbs

but hey maybe some maxima's come already gutted from the factory

 

Mine is 3240 with me in it and im 300 pounds. Im a 97 SE .

 

And you have sunroof, A/C, leather, heated seats, VLSD, spare tire, jack, etc... all of it?

 

My GLE weighs 3140 with me in it and a gutted trunk and i weigh 135..

 

I've weighed this car on multiple scales and there are no discrepancies between them, and the weight that hal took a picture of is exactly in line with the weights that I've seen on multiple track scales. The weight of this car is in line with the two other 95-96s I've owned. That's too many data points from different vehicles on different scales to not believe they're accurate.

My car has sunroof, leather, quaife LSD, auto climate control, power seats, etc. All amenities besides AC which is missing and heated seats.

 

You get the 3.5 IM installed yet Neal?

 

So why was my car so heavy then, anyone care to explain?