SO, i've decided to go with Tein s-tech's springs and KYB GR2 shocks. I found KYB's on ebay for 239.00 + 20 shipping and s-techs for 205 + 20 shipping. do you guys think that's a good deal?. do you know of any other place cheaper?
thanks

 

I bought all my stuff on ebay. Just make sure you get everything from a reputable seller with really good feedback.

 

I'm also looking for shocks and springs on ebay, but I'm looking at the Tokico Illuminina shocks and spring set for $560 + $20 shipping. I'll like to buy from some of the sellers on this site but seems like none of them could beat that price.

Doing research it seems like the Tein s-tech's springs and KYB GR2 shocks are a bit of a rough ride.

 

The shocks are fine to get from eBay (from reputable seller 100%feedback) because they aren't easily counterfiet but anyone can spray paint some springs green slap a tein sticker on and say it's legit. Even tein said that about 50% of there stuff sold on eBay is counterfiet. Only by springs from an authorized reseller. It will only cost like 20$ more anyway if you shop around (and you get a cool key chain)

 

Gr2's are like stock replacement right? But the tein springs are much shorter than stock. Why is this such common practice if its not the proper pairing of components? I just want to get this straight...thats all people are doing and they are simply doing it for the drop, right? Doesnt the ride quality suck?
Coming from having coilovers, I always thought the ride would be much nicer with the spring/shock set-ups everyone does but the more I read about it the more it seems to be that people are just throwing short springs on stock sized stuff.
someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

if you're choosing to go cheaper and buy the GR2's, then why go cheaper on the springs as well? I'm thinking of getting a set of K-sport springs bcuz hey have the drop i like 2.2f/2r, and they're about $130 on some sites. As well, i've read in some of the posts that k-sport springs won't bottom out as much as the s-tech do. As for shocks though, I'll prolly grab a set of adjustables, AGX or Illuminas, when pairing it with springs that have a considerable drop. I've heard GR2's and HP's will blow with s-techs or k-sports.

 

Yeah, from what I understand, HPs and GR2s aren't really good past a 1.5" drop.

 

All shocks for the max are the same length &height. Unless you do the shortened konis (which to me seems ghetto). So agx, gr2 & illumina all the same except for the adjustability of dampening stiffness. Coilovers should be the best riding setup for lowered cars because a nice set keeps the same suspension travel reguardless of ride height. I have stec with gr2 and they have held up just fine and I live in NY. As with any lower car you have to drive with the ride height in mind (avoiding potholes and going over speed bumps on an angle). Almost any shock will hold up on a dropped car if they have been broken in from new at that height. Gr2s are stiffer than stock as are blues.

 

konis are shortened? I dont understand how that makes them ghetto though? Riding a shorter shock and using it properly or taking a longer strut and cutting down its travel distance by using shorter springs.

 

You're not going to find it any cheaper. especially brand new.

 

I was referring to the koni inserts not the koni struts. which you cut the top off your old strut and insert a new piston made for the application. this makes the body of the strut shorter, but I have doubts as to the stability and longevity of the unit.(which is why I said I think its ghetto). there arent any shorter shocks for the max as far as I know of. and yes there is no "correct" way to lower the 4th gen to where the stech's sit, it throws off the suspension geometry and keeps the struts close to bottoming out(but looks damn good doing it). but if your willing to compromise a little comfort for stiffness and looks its not a bad deal. if you know how to drive lowered its not bad at all and on a smooth highway it is an incredibly stable setup for under 500$. but like I said before coilovers that keep suspension travel constant would be the best bet ( but also atleast 1000$).

 

The koni struts are not shortened. There are threads disproving what you're saying in the suspension sub-forum. Others have said Koni is the best, most reliable strut available to us, and they have lifetime warranty (dont they?).

I am selling my ksport coilovers on ebay right now, they wont cost anybody a grand. They are currently at 200 bucks on ebay right now. You can get them for 800 and sometimes less brand new.

 

Did you even read what you quoted me saying. I said Koni INSERTS not the koni yellows(which probably are the best quality for the max but at 800$ for a set they damn well better be). I am fairly well read up on the suspension forum and like I sad before a QUALITY coilover will cost around 1g(at least). Those ksports are 200$ and prob worth every penny because they are cheaply made & poorly designed. They also don't keep suspension travel constant at different ride heights. In every forum I belong to people have tried the ksports and they have been a disapointment (reguardless if it was a Honda toyota subaru or nissan). So yes a shock spring setup will ride better than ksports but I doubt they would compare to JIC's or even tein basics given the same drop.

But this has gotten way off topic this guy just wanted to know where to buy his stuff. Sorry man.

 

whoa your getting pretty defensive. I'm not saying I know any more than you do but I've been quite mislead before and I know there are a lot of people on here who would rather preach something as truth than admit they could be wrong.

Koni inserts are koni yellows. what is the difference other than the housing?

sorry I didnt see the word "quality" in there. but I know plenty of people who would gladly charge a grand for ksports.

Please explain to me how the ksports dont maintain the same suspension travel regardless of the ride height? You obviously have not owned them.

 

Group deal section of maxima.org is your best place.

 

ebays good if the seller has a good rep,

if ebays not your thing just snoop around on the internetz and look for a legit site

 

Nothing wrong w/getting quality used springs from the for-sale forum. There's a 1/2 off Holiday sale going on right now.