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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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Maxima VE vs T-BIRD SC

guys its been a long time since we have compared our Maxima to some other car....this time its domestic...1992 Ford Thunderbird SC 3.8 auto ( supercharged engine ) rear wheel drive with 3800lbs weight and 210Hp, 315Trq.....against 1992 Nissan Maxima 3.0 auto (VE ENGINE) front wheel drive with 3200lbs and 190hp, 200TRQ.......
Maxima is 4DSC and T-BIRD is coupe but way longer than max lol...

how would u compare these monsters against eachother by look and power....


plz dont use ur love toward maxima be equal lol....i think they r kinda equal to eachother in a way?
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:21 PM
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go to the track and find out lol
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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im thinkin he might take you from a dig buddy..
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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thank you...would do that...lol..

i actually bought a T-bird and thinking of selling the Maixma? but not sure...if i should keep it or sell it? cuz cant drive both at the same time....





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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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t-bird. especially if that 315 torque is right (edit: if it's really SC'd, then aparently it is 315).

besides, have you seen the aftermarket for t-birds? not as much as a mustang, but it has a cult following, with forums, almost akin to maxima.org...

rwd, irs, ftw!

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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sell em both and buy a 5 speed...

It all depends on how you drive. The T-bird is probably faster in a straight line but i bet the max it quicker around corners and i bet the max gets much better gas milage if that is important to you.
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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rwd w/ 3.8 sc =win!

but thats a whole different kinda car i would keep both pimp out the max and make the t-bird a nitrous bird........ but if u cant keep both i would keep the max theres definetly alot of 2 door rwd's out there that are way better than a t-bird but a 4door fwd car is always gonna have a hard time competing with a max
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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I dunno i think u may have better control with the rear wheel drive in corners too. FWD is just gonna plow and understeer.
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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I just don't like how early and mid 90's domestics feel. They can have all the **** in the world (Irs, S/C, RWD, etc.) But they just don't have that tight Japanese feel you know? It's something that a lot of domestics can't emulate. I like how the maxima rev's, I like how the engine responds, I like how it does pretty much anything you tell it to do as soon as you do it, there's not a lot of correction in these car's for being as nose heavy as they are.

Me personally, I would keep the max. Although I like Ford and think they have a lot of potential- I just don't think the early 90's T-birds were feeling the love from Ford at the time.

It looks like a lot of plastic behind your max.

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it's funny, i was actually going to get a 3.8 (n/a) tbird until the seller backed out, then i went and got my maxima a week later. i guess it would have been nice to have RWD (honesly i think the bird would outcorner a maxima, stock for stock with decently well-maintained suspension components) but i heard that the reliability was subpar from a mechanic in the family, so i guess it's all as well. but the tbird should whomp the max in a short drag, from having the extra .8L and all the extra torque.

if i had to choose now, i'd have my max, because i know how to work on it and i've gotten accustomed to it, but i don't know how i'd have chosen if i actually had to pick on the spot back in 2006.
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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if you like blown head gaskets keep the t-bird.
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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ya my buddy owned 2 tbirds of that kind in highschool and both blew head gaskets, and ive heard thats very common. personally if i wanted a common problem, id rather deal with our window regulators than head gaskets.
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 10:21 AM
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does the supercharger blow the head gaskets quicker than the n/a 3.8?
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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does the supercharger blow the head gaskets quicker than the n/a 3.8?
Exactly, they(ford) basically just threw a s/c on the n/a 3.8's, without upgrading the h/g, stupid move on their part..toyota did the same thing on their 7mgte in the markIII turbo supras, they blow h/g's at about the same rate as ford.

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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Exactly, they(ford) basically just threw a s/c on the n/a 3.8's, without upgrading the h/g, stupid move on their part..toyota did the same thing on their 7mgte in the markIII turbo supras, they blow h/g's at about the same rate as ford.
The 7Ms are just fine if you torque the head down properly and use a good gasket. IIRC most of the problem was the head bolts being undertorqued.
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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guy i work with had one, he was a ford tech and what he says is that the blots tend to loosen up causing the blown gaskets. he recommends finding a set of ARP head bolts if they still make them. Good luck on the t-bird! good find.

if all else fails drop in a 4.6
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Originally Posted by 300zmax
guy i work with had one, he was a ford tech and what he says is that the blots tend to loosen up causing the blown gaskets. he recommends finding a set of ARP head bolts if they still make them. Good luck on the t-bird! good find.

if all else fails drop in a 4.6
that motor is a POS no matter what you do to it.
my buddy had one (bought brand new) and blew the head gaskets. He rebuilt the whole motor with top shelf parts. They blew again. he finally gave up and sold the car.
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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this is what the N/A version of that engine produces

140 hp 3800 rpm
215 ft-lbs. 2400 rpm

a full 50hp less than a 3.0 maxima even with a 3.8.......oh yeah and the camaros produced that same amount of torque with a 3.3 V6....something is seriously inferior about this engine
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Originally Posted by sleepyvg30e
this is what the N/A version of that engine produces

140 hp 3800 rpm
215 ft-lbs. 2400 rpm

a full 50hp less than a 3.0 maxima even with a 3.8.......oh yeah and the camaros produced that same amount of torque with a 3.3 V6....something is seriously inferior about this engine
haha... 140@3800 sucks for you if you were hoping for a decent top speed. i dunno tho, that's what i hate about static engine figures is that they ONLY show peaks. like, we know the VE peak tq is 190 @ 4400, but i've never seen what it makes at 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500, or 4000... of course that's where dyno charts come in handy. but that's what really matters, who cares about peak, but how long is the engine producing at least 90% of peak toruqe through the rev range.
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyvg30e
this is what the N/A version of that engine produces

140 hp 3800 rpm
215 ft-lbs. 2400 rpm

a full 50hp less than a 3.0 maxima even with a 3.8.......oh yeah and the camaros produced that same amount of torque with a 3.3 V6....something is seriously inferior about this engine
add a supercharger, and you get more hp/tq. if it was NA, the choice would be the max, hands down.


burhan: keep both, if you can afford it. both are nice cars (in their own ways), and both are fun. I have more than one computer, but I can only use one at a time. I could get rid of one, and not be worse off for it, but I chose to keep them all because I can
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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No question Nissan is better that Ford either way, the supercharged hits 65 then bogs down, but the VQ kills it in a longer run
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 99NightRiderMAX
No question Nissan is better that Ford either way, the supercharged hits 65 then bogs down, but the VQ kills it in a longer run
hey, noob. we are talking about 3rd gens. not 4th gens.
if I had to chose between a pristine 4th gen, and a 3.8l 12th gen t-bird, with ripped seats, it is an obvious choice to get the t-bird.

(now if it was a 5th gen....)
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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WTF? talk about other cars in the other cars forum. :matt93se:
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