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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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first time with the 3.5 (worst times you will ever see)

So i go to the track on friday night for the first time with my 3.5 swap ready for my really low 14s.

It was the worst night of my life!! I could not get any traction at all. I was spining so much like if there was water on the track. I would go araund the water box so i know i didnt have any water on my tires. Im just not used to all this tourque.

On my last run i tried to take off normal like if im on a public street at a red light but i fail and i bog of the line and to make things worse i missed 4th gear!

these are the worst times I have ever made and i hope i will get better times this friday when i go back.

look at my 60ft I have never seen that bad of a 60ft in my life!

Old May 5, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Well at least your trap is there. 97 mph is around a 14.2 or so. After a few trips you'll get your times down to where they're supposed to be.
Old May 5, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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i want to be in the high 13s
Old May 5, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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What other mods do you have besides the swap?
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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intake and a open y-pipe. im still useing my 3.0 exhaust manifolds and y-pipe.
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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intake and a open y-pipe. im still useing my 3.0 exhaust manifolds and y-pipe.
Replace the ypipe and you'll defiantly see 13's.
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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Traps are not too bad, but you definitely need to work on getting out of the hole. Just look at the difference in ET on your 2.3x 60' versus the others.

Good luck! Hopefully ill be making my 13s pass tonight or next tuesday..
Old May 5, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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At least you know you dont have any problems with the car. I'd actually be ok with those times my first time out after an engine swap.
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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At least you know you dont have any problems with the car. I'd actually be ok with those times my first time out after an engine swap.
im ok with real low 14s. im just mad at myself for not being able to launch off the line. when i had the 3.0 my 60ft times were always 2.2 or 2.1 on street tires.

I just cant control all this tourque i guess.
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
At least you know you dont have any problems with the car. I'd actually be ok with those times my first time out after an engine swap.


+ 1. I think the car has high 13's in it, just have to work on your launch. I have the same problem with half the power you have LOL!!!
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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just practice and the times will improve
Old May 5, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Get slicks!

Guaranteed 13s.
Old May 5, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by krazy6
Get slicks!

Guaranteed 13s.

i will get slicks after i replace my axles.
Old May 5, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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are the axles a problem if you run DR's or slicks?
Old May 5, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jkpgt96
are the axles a problem if you run DR's or slicks?
if i get slicks i know i may break one of my axles and have to pay for it to get it towed to my house. so i rather just replace my axles so that wont happen.
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no one ever breaks axles in maximas... not even us 400-500whp+guys launching on slicks from redline pulling low 1.7s. don't worry about axles.

(knock on wood, I'll probably break an axle next time i'm at the track now lol)
Old May 5, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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man, why does this seems like it really could pull 13's... goodluck...
Old May 5, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
no one ever breaks axles in maximas... not even us 400-500whp+guys launching on slicks from redline pulling low 1.7s. don't worry about axles.

(knock on wood, I'll probably break an axle next time i'm at the track now lol)
Ok..that was my wonder.
Old May 6, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
no one ever breaks axles in maximas... not even us 400-500whp+guys launching on slicks from redline pulling low 1.7s. don't worry about axles.

(knock on wood, I'll probably break an axle next time i'm at the track now lol)
realy?? I see so many people breaking there axles at the track. no wonder i havent seen a thread where somebody says they broke their axles.
Old May 6, 2009 | 06:43 AM
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A 4th gen 3.5 with just a y-pipe is a 13.9@100-101 car without weight reduction (except spare).

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Old May 6, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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I dont have a 4gen. but i will ground my knock sensors to the batt.
Old May 7, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
no one ever breaks axles in maximas... not even us 400-500whp+guys launching on slicks from redline pulling low 1.7s. don't worry about axles.

(knock on wood, I'll probably break an axle next time i'm at the track now lol)
I agree... Not much worry about axles. I have been clutch dumping 5k rpm launches with a 75 shot off the line on slicks and haven't had any issues.
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From my experience, aftermarket clutches are what blow axles & gears. I suggest manual guys to keep a stock-ish clutch as long as possible. 2001 AE clutch for 5-speeds and the stock 6-speed clutch is VERY strong.

If I had a turbo on low boost and a 6-speed in my car, I would honestly keep the stock clutch.
Old May 7, 2009 | 01:20 PM
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i just have a stage 1 exedy for now. it hold realy good.
Old May 7, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
From my experience, aftermarket clutches are what blow axles & gears. I suggest manual guys to keep a stock-ish clutch as long as possible. 2001 AE clutch for 5-speeds and the stock 6-speed clutch is VERY strong.

If I had a turbo on low boost and a 6-speed in my car, I would honestly keep the stock clutch.
I'm at 100k and I drive very hard, and the stock clutch grips like the day I bought it. In fact I just chirped 3rd at almost 70 mph on the way home today
Old May 7, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LA02MAX
I'm at 100k and I drive very hard, and the stock clutch grips like the day I bought it. In fact I just chirped 3rd at almost 70 mph on the way home today

you chirped 3rd on those 18s you have?
Old May 7, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by krazy6
Get slicks!

Guaranteed 13s.
Going to be tough with 96-97 trap speeds.

Low to mid 14s with a good launch is well within reach. Believe me, first few time I got on my car off the line when I bought it, the wheel spin was unreal.
Old May 7, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Going to be tough with 96-97 trap speeds.

Low to mid 14s with a good launch is well within reach. Believe me, first few time I got on my car off the line when I bought it, the wheel spin was unreal.
+1
Old May 8, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Going to be tough with 96-97 trap speeds.

Low to mid 14s with a good launch is well within reach. Believe me, first few time I got on my car off the line when I bought it, the wheel spin was unreal.

yeah it was like there was water all over the track or something.
Old May 8, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
no one ever breaks axles in maximas... not even us 400-500whp+guys launching on slicks from redline pulling low 1.7s. don't worry about axles.

(knock on wood, I'll probably break an axle next time i'm at the track now lol)
you are wrong sir i know personally two different 4th gens with 3.5 swaps that snapped the driver side axles on Drag Radials, 1st 4th gen was cammed and etc. mods launching at 5k, the 2nd was a stock 3.5 swap with bolt-ons launching a 2500
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a pic to remember:
Old May 8, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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i just have a stage 1 exedy for now. it hold realy good.
i hit 14.1 and trapped 100mph on a duralast clutch from autozone that didnt like torque to much (it only lasted 5 weeks after i did the swap) but i did so on drag radials and thats was straight off the highway

a quick vid:

Old May 8, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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I'm at 100k and I drive very hard, and the stock clutch grips like the day I bought it. In fact I just chirped 3rd at almost 70 mph on the way home today in the rain on bald tires
corrected for you, lol

btw I just broke a axle at the track and did not have any wheel hop it just broke and I have seen a few other org member break axles and these cars range from n/a, nitrous, turbo, open diff to vlsd

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Old May 9, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by maxima.713
you chirped 3rd on those 18s you have?
Yeah, my car does it no problem. I will admit my tires aren't good....they're brand new, but they're Eagle RS-A's...which are nearly as bad as the stock RE92 Potenzas that came on my car (ok, that's a stretch..but they're not good)

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corrected for you, lol
I wish my traction were that good! Last time I had bald tires and it was raining I couldn't even make it up a hill doing 70 mph on the interstate in 6th gear....my speedometer shot up to 150 mph immediately. Even with good tires I can't floor it in 3rd at anything over 35 mph in the rain or they just light up.

When it's dry out I have no issues chirping 3rd and burning half way through second. It sucks.

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