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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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How much will this cost to get repaired/replaced?

Yesterday, I was stopping by my friends house, and I accidentally ran into the moms car. The damage to her car is minimal, only a little box piece was cracked and fell off, but Max suffered badly.

How much will it cost around to replace/repair this damage?





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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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You will need a new fender, new bumper, new headlight, new running light or whatever that light is on the bumper and then paint. Is the hood damaged at all?? Anyway, either way you go it will cost you 400 and up.
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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You will need a new bumper, new headlight, new running light or whatever that light is on the bumper. Is the hood damaged at all?? Anyway, either way you go it will cost you 400 and up.
No, the hood is not damaged. However, there is a white container on the inside that looks like it's holding some type of fluid, and it looks cracked. I don't think anything is leaking, but curious as to what that is?
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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should be ur windshield washer fluid tank
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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I was trying to calculate the visible damage and if you were going with all new parts,
bumper cover + painting 500.00
new passenger headlamp 200.00
side marker 45.00
body shop dent removal and repaint on the fender 650.00

looks like approx 1300-1500.00 in damges
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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I was trying to calculate the visible damage and if you were going with all new parts,
bumper cover + painting 500.00
new passenger headlamp 200.00
side marker 45.00
body shop dent removal and repaint on the fender 650.00

looks like approx 1300-1500.00 in damges
Holy crap. Ok. I will probably be private messaging you soon if you're still up for that offer. I think the headlamp can live for a while, seeing as it's completely functional and only has glass cracked, but will get that fixed asap. Looks like the bumper will be the main repair, with the fender getting fixed later.

This sucks. Watch out for Saabs.
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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$650 for a fender? I'd replace instead of repairing that.
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Also, is it illegal to drive without that side light? The whole headlight works perfect, but can the car be driven around until we get a side light replacement? It's a daily driver so...
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I am by no means saying that my guesstimates are accurate just trying to let the OP know what he may expect if he was going to go with new parts and having a body shop perform the dent and painting. Yes there are less expensive options such as sourcing out used parts from fellow members and the scrap yards and of course doing some of the work yourself. But getting a good paint job done is not cheap by any means, so I gave guesstimates on the higher side just as an example.

And yes of course as I said to you I will be more than happy to donate the front side marker to you, as for the other parts I don't have anything that would help out other wise I would have offered them as well. Just shot me your mailing address in PM and I'll get the marker on its way to you.
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I agree, however in the case of the fender, if it ends up being any more than $300 to repair and paint it, I'd replace it altogether.
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1500 and up if you want a decent job.
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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pull the fender liner off and heat up the piece thats dented with a hair dryer for about a min make sure when you touch it that its arm hot but be careful and dont leave it on one spot for long or it it will bubble. Then take a hammer or a screw driver ( the back of it ) and push the dent from the inside. Also make sure the fender stays heated. Once the dent pops it went sand it with 2000-3000 grit and paper to take out the more of the scratchs. Next get some used oem lights ( less then $100 from the site) or ebay 02 style headlights ( 150-350). The bumper is basicly gone unless you can plastic weld. So about 150 for the bumper from ebay and paint should be around 200-400 depending on where you go. Now I am going to say that the fender thing is not going to look 100 percent but its better then what you got going on now and you give you time to save up until you want to put the money in to the car to get it 100. As far as the marker you can try ebay there pretty cheap.
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Originally Posted by Ghost_54
I was trying to calculate the visible damage and if you were going with all new parts,
bumper cover + painting 500.00
new passenger headlamp 200.00
side marker 45.00
body shop dent removal and repaint on the fender 650.00

looks like approx 1300-1500.00 in damges
Where the hell you you get this prices from?? Porsche dealer?? I've been doing body work for many years and I've never seen prices like that.

Reason I suggested the new fender is because of labor involved, it will cost more to fix then to replace.

New fender on ebay 112.98 shipped + 100 to 125 paint.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RH-FE...Q5fAccessories

Front bumper cover new on ebay for 144.98 shipped + 150 for paint
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...Q5fAccessories

Bumper light probably about 30 bucks

Windshield washer reservoir 48.25 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...Q5fAccessories

Headlight 77 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Head-...Q5fAccessories


Total of 688.21 maybe little more.

If you told me 650 to repair a fender, I'd punch you.
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pull the fender liner off and heat up the piece thats dented with a hair dryer for about a min make sure when you touch it that its arm hot but be careful and dont leave it on one spot for long or it it will bubble. Then take a hammer or a screw driver ( the back of it ) and push the dent from the inside. Also make sure the fender stays heated. Once the dent pops it went sand it with 2000-3000 grit and paper to take out the more of the scratchs. Next get some used oem lights ( less then $100 from the site) or ebay 02 style headlights ( 150-350). The bumper is basicly gone unless you can plastic weld. So about 150 for the bumper from ebay and paint should be around 200-400 depending on where you go. Now I am going to say that the fender thing is not going to look 100 percent but its better then what you got going on now and you give you time to save up until you want to put the money in to the car to get it 100. As far as the marker you can try ebay there pretty cheap.

I hope you don't do body work as a profession.
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Where the hell you you get this prices from?? Porsche dealer?? I've been doing body work for many years and I've never seen prices like that.

Reason I suggested the new fender is because of labor involved, it will cost more to fix then to replace.

New fender on ebay 112.98 shipped + 100 to 125 paint.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RH-FE...Q5fAccessories

Front bumper cover new on ebay for 144.98 shipped + 150 for paint
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...Q5fAccessories

Bumper light probably about 30 bucks

Windshield washer reservoir 48.25 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-...Q5fAccessories

Headlight 77 shipped
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Head-...Q5fAccessories


Total of 688.21 maybe little more.

If you told me 650 to repair a fender, I'd punch you.
Will the 2002 and 2003 bumper fit on a 2000?

Understand that these may be just examples, but hell, might as well look for mods, etc.
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JonMcJunkin
Will the 2002 and 2003 bumper fit on a 2000?

Understand that these may be just examples, but hell, might as well look for mods, etc.

NO ... not unless u change the whole front
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Looks like the fender can be save but the bumper and headlight are done . but i would just get all brand stuff and since ya headlight is crack maybe get some brand new halos that can be a new mod for the newyear but whatever u do GL bro ...btw i found some links ....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-F...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-R...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...Q5fAccessories
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WhoDatBuuL
Looks like the fender can be save but the bumper and headlight are done . but i would just get all brand stuff and since ya headlight is crack maybe get some brand new halos that can be a new mod for the newyear but whatever u do GL bro ...btw i found some links ....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-F...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-R...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...Q5fAccessories

Thanks man, i'll definitely take a look at all of these. I've noticed that on the bumpers, the wholes for the foglights are empty, however, my car does not currently have fog lights. Is that expensive to get done or difficult to do yourself?
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Well RAZ76 unfortunately I live up in Canada so shipping is a hell of alot more that you think not to mention taxes and the brokerage fees we get charged. I only gave rough guess's I have not had to do any of the items myself and it is always better to be prepared for the worse cost factor and then hope to look for more options, I do agree that fender replacement is by far a better option than paying for the body shops labor. In any rate the OP is getting some excellent feed back from all of you guys and is beginning to get a good picture of his options as well as a good education on how even a small amount of damage can escalate in costly repairs very quickly.
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I have my oem front marker lights if you want to buy them off of me. They have just been sitting under my passenger seat since i bought the car. shipping should cost about $7 + whatever you think is fair. I am pretty sure they are in like new condition but i'll check. PM me if you are interested
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if youre in NYC i ll give you my bumper. the bumper has deep scratch from jackass that doesnt know how to fking drive. other than that nothing wrong with it.
Old Jan 3, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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if youre in NYC i ll give you my bumper. the bumper has deep scratch from jackass that doesnt know how to fking drive. other than that nothing wrong with it.
Unfortunately, I'm not in the NYC area. I'm in Washington DC area, so it'd have to be shipped. What color is the bumper though? Given a fair price and reasonable condition, we may pay for both the bumper and shipping.
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Thanks man, i'll definitely take a look at all of these. I've noticed that on the bumpers, the wholes for the foglights are empty, however, my car does not currently have fog lights. Is that expensive to get done or difficult to do yourself?
Naw its pretty easy to do , but when u take your car in the shop they can do it for u , but its easy to do bro...
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Shipping will be cheap if you use Greyhound express shipping. Around $50 for the bumper or less. My rear bumper was shipped from Chicago for $50 and was here in 2 days.
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Buy a new fender!. Denting it actually stretches the metal and it will never be the same. If you "pull" it there is a good chance the paint will crack and fall apart. Either you paint a new one to match or paint the old one to cover where you tried to fix it.
Old Jan 4, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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1500 my ash, find a wrecked max. Or someone parting there's out. Front bumper doesn;'t look TOO bad, if you want to have everything in mint condiiton however, buy parts n hav them painted professionally. If you can wait a little usually part outs come by here pretty often. Fender you need. Find a wrecked max bumper. I got mine for $50.00 when Someone backed into me. Painted by a buddy with apaintshop for $175.00. Definitely not $500.00.. Jus my 0.2. Don't rush, stay patient and you'll find a good deal.
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Just go to some body shops and get an estimate shops do the estimate for free or do a search online of shops in your area and read their reviews
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I hope you don't do body work as a profession.
no, i dont but ive been around the cars for a long time. If you take it to somewhere they are going to more or less to this to the fender unless they get a new one
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no, i dont but ive been around the cars for a long time. If you take it to somewhere they are going to more or less to this to the fender unless they get a new one
Being around cars and actually doing body work for 15 years like I have are two separate things. I've been around Airforce pilots all my life but that doesn't make me an expert on flying nor do I attempt to give advice in the matter.

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no, i dont but ive been around the cars for a long time. If you take it to somewhere they are going to more or less to this to the fender unless they get a new one
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pull the fender liner off and heat up the piece thats dented with a hair dryer for about a min make sure when you touch it that its arm hot but be careful and dont leave it on one spot for long or it it will bubble. Then take a hammer or a screw driver ( the back of it ) and push the dent from the inside. Also make sure the fender stays heated. Once the dent pops it went sand it with 2000-3000 grit and paper to take out the more of the scratchs. Next get some used oem lights ( less then $100 from the site) or ebay 02 style headlights ( 150-350). The bumper is basicly gone unless you can plastic weld. So about 150 for the bumper from ebay and paint should be around 200-400 depending on where you go. Now I am going to say that the fender thing is not going to look 100 percent but its better then what you got going on now and you give you time to save up until you want to put the money in to the car to get it 100. As far as the marker you can try ebay there pretty cheap.
They will use a hair dryer to heat up the fender?? Then the back of a screw driver to push it back?? A hair dryer will not be able to heat a metal fender dum dum..lmfao...You been around this type of work all your life?? That's what shady shops do, then use a ton of bondo and paint it in a hurry so you don't see it. Don't give this kind of advice anymore, please!


Anyway, an honest shop, like mine for instance would suggest a new fender because the labor involved to fix that one will be costly and time consuming. However, most shops will tell you that they can fix it so they can get more cash off of you. Paint will cost the most because in order to have the paint match the rest of the car and not be a eye sore, the hood and front door and other fender will have to get painted to blend.

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Unfortunately, I'm not in the NYC area. I'm in Washington DC area, so it'd have to be shipped. What color is the bumper though? Given a fair price and reasonable condition, we may pay for both the bumper and shipping.
I wanna give you my bumper for free, and you ask me to pay half of the shipping? are you crazy? i would rather chop it off into pieces and put it into a garbage bag and call it a day.

Btw, the color is KT3 which is sterling mist.
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buy used side markers from another member here..new bumper and new fender get em from certifit.com i just installed a new hood on my car from them and it fits perfect. as for the headlight.. well i would use this as a reason to get 5.5 headlights!!
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Don't buy certi****. i mean certifit. At least get keystone parts. If you were around my area i'd fix it for $750 with new parts. And have you in and out in 2 hours. blending extra though but i could match it fairly close.

Good luck. I wouldn't pay a shop more than 1k
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1500 and up if you want a decent job.
Yep. Don't cheap out on paint and body and don't go to the dealer or a chain. Find a top rated independent body shop if you want it done right.
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SoulEater
I wanna give you my bumper for free, and you ask me to pay half of the shipping? are you crazy? i would rather chop it off into pieces and put it into a garbage bag and call it a day.

Btw, the color is KT3 which is sterling mist.
You've misread the post. "we may pay for both the bumper and the shipping." 'We' referring to me (& the family.) Not you and me.
Not to be rude or anything, just saying. But would the bumper really be for free? Oh the paint costs. Also, I think that I'm just going to worry about the bumper, headlight, and side light fror now. The fender can wait a while. It's been in the same condition before, without any problems I know of.

Originally Posted by JonMcJunkin
Unfortunately, I'm not in the NYC area. I'm in Washington DC area, so it'd have to be shipped. What color is the bumper though? Given a fair price and reasonable condition, we may pay for both the bumper and shipping.
Originally Posted by pepox369
buy used side markers from another member here..new bumper and new fender get em from certifit.com i just installed a new hood on my car from them and it fits perfect. as for the headlight.. well i would use this as a reason to get 5.5 headlights!!
I'm figuring on whether to order one from Nissan or another place, or get one on here. The parents don't necessarily trust "online transactions." Yes, I'm young. But I'm trying my best not to be an idiot ha. Also, I would love some 5.5 gen headlights. They always looked "mean" to me, very aggressive. Should I get OEM ones or the ones off ebay with the projectors? I've noticed some other members have both options. Budget is a factor though so which would be better in the long run?

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OEM will always be better in the long run but you'll pay for it. OEM 02-03 brand new are over $600 a piece. I would just stick with OEM 00-01 headlights and try to find good condition used or get aftermarket ones. Order the sidemarkers on ebay.
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I really want some of the OEM 02-03 lights, but I'm going to get a pair once the right light starts to build up condensation, dirt, etc. Right now it's sealed via duct tape, but once it gets bad we'll replace them. I really wish I could have the 02-03 bumper too

Also, I was doing an online search and came up on D&H Auto Parts. They have both the fender and bumper, and I can get the unpainted part for a little over 100 bucks each, I forget the exact prices. However, I can also get them painted each for around 140-155 dollars per part. So that's 300 in paint, and then the price of the parts. Do you think I should trust their painting skills? They claim to be OEM quality, but I just need to it be as close as possible without paying an arm and a leg.

Ordered a side marker off eBay a few minutes ago. Thanks for all the offers though, greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by RAZ76
Being around cars and actually doing body work for 15 years like I have are two separate things. I've been around Airforce pilots all my life but that doesn't make me an expert on flying nor do I attempt to give advice in the matter.




They will use a hair dryer to heat up the fender?? Then the back of a screw driver to push it back?? A hair dryer will not be able to heat a metal fender dum dum..lmfao...You been around this type of work all your life?? That's what shady shops do, then use a ton of bondo and paint it in a hurry so you don't see it. Don't give this kind of advice anymore, please!


Anyway, an honest shop, like mine for instance would suggest a new fender because the labor involved to fix that one will be costly and time consuming. However, most shops will tell you that they can fix it so they can get more cash off of you. Paint will cost the most because in order to have the paint match the rest of the car and not be a eye sore, the hood and front door and other fender will have to get painted to blend.
Like i said if you read my post "but its better then what you got going on now and you give you time to save up until you want to put the money in to the car to get it 100. As far as the marker you can try ebay there pretty cheap." meaning if he cant afford it he can do this in a day to make his car look 10x better dum dum. Read before you talk. And as far as making me an expert. Im a mechanic with ASEs, and along my way i found tricks and picked up tips from bodymen ( some that i use ). As far as giving advice, il do what i want him helping the guy out. Every one is telling him to go to a shop and spend $1000+ , im giving him another option smart guy. And they dont use hair dryers they use heat guns to heat up the paint. If you say you have a shop then im sure you have been around and know about paintless dent removal, so im guessing thats also shady since it magically takes off the dents.On a final note, a good hair dryer will heat the paint enough that it does not crack.
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Originally Posted by dawick3don3
Like i said if you read my post "but its better then what you got going on now and you give you time to save up until you want to put the money in to the car to get it 100. As far as the marker you can try ebay there pretty cheap." meaning if he cant afford it he can do this in a day to make his car look 10x better dum dum. Read before you talk. And as far as making me an expert. Im a mechanic with ASEs, and along my way i found tricks and picked up tips from bodymen ( some that i use ). As far as giving advice, il do what i want him helping the guy out. Every one is telling him to go to a shop and spend $1000+ , im giving him another option smart guy. And they dont use hair dryers they use heat guns to heat up the paint. If you say you have a shop then im sure you have been around and know about paintless dent removal, so im guessing thats also shady since it magically takes off the dents.On a final note, a good hair dryer will heat the paint enough that it does not crack.
Ive had my ASE for 15 years, then 2 years degree from an aeronautical school, worked on jets for a little bit and then I have 2 years at UTI Houston, oh and some 30, 40 credits here and there from OU. So what. Have you really looked at the dent Mr expert?? There a crease in it by the body line. Can it be fixed? Yes with a Knock down tool, not the back of a screw driver that you use. The main uses for a knock down is to gently tap down the little high spots or beestings formed while removing a dent, but they are much more then that. A blunt tip on your knock down can provide a great way to reduce eyebrows that are formed when the metal is pushed into another region of the panel and flatten creases. Much faster and cheaper to just buy a new one.

This guy has never done body work or he would not be here asking for help. Like you said, these are tricks that yo learn along the way, not over night but you expect him to??

He didn't ask for body work pointers. He ask guys like me and others that have been arond this business about how much would cost to fix. Im helping him, opening his eyes so he does get burned. I was also helping him to get parts, it's easier for someone like himself to install a fender, bumper etc then do his own body work. He should leave that for folks that know what they are doing and he can do the rest to save some cash in labor.
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RAZ76
Ive had my ASE for 15 years, then 2 years degree from an aeronautical school, worked on jets for a little bit and then I have 2 years at UTI Houston, oh and some 30, 40 credits here and there from OU. So what. Have you really looked at the dent Mr expert?? There a crease in it by the body line. Can it be fixed? Yes with a Knock down tool, not the back of a screw driver that you use. The main uses for a knock down is to gently tap down the little high spots or beestings formed while removing a dent, but they are much more then that. A blunt tip on your knock down can provide a great way to reduce eyebrows that are formed when the metal is pushed into another region of the panel and flatten creases. Much faster and cheaper to just buy a new one.

This guy has never done body work or he would not be here asking for help. Like you said, these are tricks that yo learn along the way, not over night but you expect him to??

He didn't ask for body work pointers. He ask guys like me and others that have been arond this business about how much would cost to fix. Im helping him, opening his eyes so he does get burned. I was also helping him to get parts, it's easier for someone like himself to install a fender, bumper etc then do his own body work. He should leave that for folks that know what they are doing and he can do the rest to save some cash in labor.
i agree. Im just giving him another option that he may have not think was possible for him to do. Sure its not going to come out perfect but better then he started with.
Old Jan 7, 2010 | 06:39 AM
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you should just wait for your next accident & make sure you hit it on the same spot.



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