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Old Aug 30, 2000 | 10:47 AM
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??or atleast keep up with it

both cars automatic
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by tunedup
??or atleast keep up with it

both cars automatic
No, any year MAXIMA will get its *** handed to it. A stock GT 2000 will run low 14s high 13s are possible with a good driver. My friend runs 14.2s all the time and he doesn't abuse it.
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 10:56 AM
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nope

you will be laughed at. hehe. The lx (v6) you can run with the gt will probably spank you stock for stock.

Max: 190 hp/205 lb/ft torque 3l v6

GT: 260 hp/302 lb/ft torque 4.6l v8

Both cars actually weigh about the same so there ya go... those are the numbers, I think it's kinda easy to see who'll win.

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Old Aug 30, 2000 | 10:59 AM
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how bout the lx wut are the specs on that ??

i think i was referrring ot the LX cuz i deffinetly didn not mean the 260 hp v8
i meant the v6 basic


Originally posted by CKNY
you will be laughed at. hehe. The lx (v6) you can run with the gt will probably spank you stock for stock.

Max: 190 hp/205 lb/ft torque 3l v6

GT: 260 hp/302 lb/ft torque 4.6l v8

Both cars actually weigh about the same so there ya go... those are the numbers, I think it's kinda easy to see who'll win.

chris
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 11:00 AM
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how much does the lxgo for n e way?

22000?
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 12:24 PM
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ANY stock Maxima vs. 2000 Mustang GT. == Maxima emerges fried, roasted, and extra-crispy.

95 Maxima Auto vs. 2000 Mustang (base model V6) = It'd be interesting. I don't know actually.

95 Maxima Auto vs. pre-99 Mustang GT = Mustang should win.

95-00 Maxima Auto vs. pre-99 Mustang V6 = Maxima should win...... but that's a big "should." A 5-spd Maxima should stomp the V6...
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 12:32 PM
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Re: how bout the lx wut are the specs on that ??

Originally posted by tunedup
i think i was referrring ot the LX cuz i deffinetly didn not mean the 260 hp v8
i meant the v6 basic


Originally posted by CKNY
you will be laughed at. hehe. The lx (v6) you can run with the gt will probably spank you stock for stock.

Max: 190 hp/205 lb/ft torque 3l v6

GT: 260 hp/302 lb/ft torque 4.6l v8

Both cars actually weigh about the same so there ya go... those are the numbers, I think it's kinda easy to see who'll win.

chris
i think the base v6 is 190hp....my buddy has an auto (dumbass) and the car just seems extremely slow...i think it'd be close but my opinion is the max would come out on top....
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 12:33 PM
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While we're on the subject of stomping Mustangs... I stomped a pre-99 this morning... don't mind me, just wanted to let that out.
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 12:38 PM
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Re: Re: how bout the lx wut are the specs on that ??

Originally posted by Chris91SE
Originally posted by tunedup
i think i was referrring ot the LX cuz i deffinetly didn not mean the 260 hp v8
i meant the v6 basic


Originally posted by CKNY
you will be laughed at. hehe. The lx (v6) you can run with the gt will probably spank you stock for stock.

Max: 190 hp/205 lb/ft torque 3l v6

GT: 260 hp/302 lb/ft torque 4.6l v8

Both cars actually weigh about the same so there ya go... those are the numbers, I think it's kinda easy to see who'll win.

chris
i think the base v6 is 190hp....my buddy has an auto (dumbass) and the car just seems extremely slow...i think it'd be close but my opinion is the max would come out on top....
Not so... both cars are about the same weight... the mustang is RWD plus it's got more torque.. that means if both are auto, the mustang v6 will win. RWD = better traction, more torque with better traction = better launch by a long shot.

My girlfriend drives a 99 V6 auto. I am very hesitant to even think that i may beat her, even with my y-pipe and cai.

-shing
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 12:41 PM
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I would thing a fourth gen max should be able to take a V6 mustang. I took a v6 camaro (95 or 96) and that wasn't too hard. At the time I was completely stock, but he also had some loud stereo (extra weight). It was still fun!
The kid had Z28 stickers on his camaro, but I new it was the v6 because he had a single exhaust pipe and hubcaps...hehehe. Don't know what the horsepower on the car was as compared to a mustang?

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I would thing a fourth gen max should be able to take a V6 mustang. I took a v6 camaro (95 or 96) and that wasn't too hard. At the time I was completely stock, but he also had some loud stereo (extra weight). It was still fun!
The kid had Z28 stickers on his camaro, but I new it was the v6 because he had a single exhaust pipe and hubcaps...hehehe. Don't know what the horsepower on the car was as compared to a mustang?

That year was the 160hp V6s they had, very slow. A demo 99 Grand Am GT Ram Air beat one with 3 people in it and he had 3 people!

But the new 98+ ones you need to watch out for they have 200hp, and actually I heard they do low 15s and I have heard the 99 V6 Stagns can do high 14s stock.
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 02:09 PM
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Shing say it ain't so.......

Man I have raced more than a couple of V6 99+ stangs in my car. I don't get walked till around 2nd gear. Believe me the auto's aren't as fast as you think. They "feel" fast but they aren't. However like you said stock for stock it will be close.
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 02:19 PM
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My girlfriend drives a 99 V6 auto. I am very hesitant to even think that i may beat her, even with my y-pipe and cai.

-shing
You two should race
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 02:30 PM
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Maxima will win

I would bet money that a 95+ maxima will beat any v6 mustang auto for auto, stock for stock. You think the max has a slushbox, the mustang auto is pathetic. Russ, the v6 has more power starting in 99. It has 190hp and 220 lb/ft torque. The v6 5spd runs 15.3-15.8 and the auto runs 16.2-16.7. Muscle mustang claimed a 14.9 with a stock v6 5spd but I think it's b.s. Tunedup, I would say go for it. The max should come out on top, but not more than 1-2 carlenghts.
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 02:31 PM
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Oh...and Shing

Have a little faith in your car.
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by brianw
ANY stock Maxima vs. 2000 Mustang GT. == Maxima emerges fried, roasted, and extra-crispy.

95 Maxima Auto vs. 2000 Mustang (base model V6) = It'd be interesting. I don't know actually.

95 Maxima Auto vs. pre-99 Mustang GT = Mustang should win.

95-00 Maxima Auto vs. pre-99 Mustang V6 = Maxima should win...... but that's a big "should." A 5-spd Maxima should stomp the V6...
the base model v6 better get stompped by the maxima.. i was in my friends honda accord ex 4cyl and watched as he spanked some kid in a mustang v6.. only mods the accord had was intake and exhuast.. so the max better whoop it.. and yes the stang guy knew he was racing
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 02:47 PM
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LOL!!

Ok, I was just being conservative....
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 03:00 PM
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HAHAHAHhahahahhaha.. keep dreaming.. V8 is more than a drink you know..
Old Aug 30, 2000 | 04:59 PM
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I raced a 2000GT >>

I usualy keep track of the faster cars I race. Here is the time-slip from June/2000. Sorry I dont have a scaner. I am 7745 the Mustang is 4648. You can see the HP of the GT by the mph. Although I am not stock, its still nice to be able to keep up. As you can see if I were stock I would have gotten WASTED. He only beet me by .373.(couse of my beter reaction time)

7745 My run on sreet tires and auto.
R/T... .509
60'... 2.184
339'.. 6.076
1/8... 9.275 @76.47
1000'..12.056
1/4... 14.411 @95.69


4648 His run with Nitto drag radials.
and a 5-speed.
R/T .719
60'.... 2.095
330'... 5.821
1/8.... 8.908 @79.80
1000'.. 11.569
1/4... 13.828 @99.29
Old Aug 31, 2000 | 05:45 AM
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Didn't ford have to recall some of there Mustang Cobras recently because they weren't meeting factor HP specs. (Ford was claiming more HP then the cars were dishing out). So I wouldn't put it past them to inflate some of the 1/4 mi times that the v6 mustangs are getting.
Old Aug 31, 2000 | 06:26 AM
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pre 99 gt is slow

I kill them all the time......the 4.6 liter, the 5.0 liter is a good race.
Old Aug 31, 2000 | 07:37 AM
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Re: Oh...and Shing

Originally posted by Remington
Have a little faith in your car.
Not about faith... facts are facts. If it's runs 16.2 it will be close to what my car runs.

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Well Shing.....

Originally posted by Shingles
Originally posted by Chris91SE
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i think i was referrring ot the LX cuz i deffinetly didn not mean the 260 hp v8
i meant the v6 basic


Originally posted by CKNY
you will be laughed at. hehe. The lx (v6) you can run with the gt will probably spank you stock for stock.

Max: 190 hp/205 lb/ft torque 3l v6

GT: 260 hp/302 lb/ft torque 4.6l v8

Both cars actually weigh about the same so there ya go... those are the numbers, I think it's kinda easy to see who'll win.

chris
i think the base v6 is 190hp....my buddy has an auto (dumbass) and the car just seems extremely slow...i think it'd be close but my opinion is the max would come out on top....
Not so... both cars are about the same weight... the mustang is RWD plus it's got more torque.. that means if both are auto, the mustang v6 will win. RWD = better traction, more torque with better traction = better launch by a long shot.

My girlfriend drives a 99 V6 auto. I am very hesitant to even think that i may beat her, even with my y-pipe and cai.

-shing

If your girlfriend has one, why don't you go out and run it against the Max & put an end to all the speculation? At least its "all in the family" - if she stomps you, it's not like some punk kid at a stop light handed you your @$$. Go & find out for us!
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But the new 98+ ones you need to watch out for they have 200hp, and actually I heard they do low 15s and I have heard the 99 V6 Stagns can do high 14s stock.
I've raced a few V6 stangs, my friend raced a 99+ V6 in his Infinity J30 which is slightly slower than my Maxima GLE and beat it. Now granted the stang he raced was auto, but I don't think the 5 speed will shave off 2 seconds on a pretty high torque motor. I highly doubt any stock V6 stang is going to run high 14's, unless I see some time slips.

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Re: Well Shing.....

Getting stompped by some kid might be easier to live down. I think she would never let me live it down. you know?

Originally posted by Booker
Originally posted by Shingles
Originally posted by Chris91SE
Originally posted by tunedup
i think i was referrring ot the LX cuz i deffinetly didn not mean the 260 hp v8
i meant the v6 basic


Originally posted by CKNY
you will be laughed at. hehe. The lx (v6) you can run with the gt will probably spank you stock for stock.

Max: 190 hp/205 lb/ft torque 3l v6

GT: 260 hp/302 lb/ft torque 4.6l v8

Both cars actually weigh about the same so there ya go... those are the numbers, I think it's kinda easy to see who'll win.

chris
i think the base v6 is 190hp....my buddy has an auto (dumbass) and the car just seems extremely slow...i think it'd be close but my opinion is the max would come out on top....
Not so... both cars are about the same weight... the mustang is RWD plus it's got more torque.. that means if both are auto, the mustang v6 will win. RWD = better traction, more torque with better traction = better launch by a long shot.

My girlfriend drives a 99 V6 auto. I am very hesitant to even think that i may beat her, even with my y-pipe and cai.

-shing

If your girlfriend has one, why don't you go out and run it against the Max & put an end to all the speculation? At least its "all in the family" - if she stomps you, it's not like some punk kid at a stop light handed you your @$$. Go & find out for us!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: how bout the lx wut are the specs on that ??

A good buddy of mine drives a 96 Mustang V6 Auto. I waste him all the time in my 98SE 5sp. The stick Mustangs are definitely harder, but with these two cars I think it would probably come down to the driver.....
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Originally posted by krell
A good buddy of mine drives a 96 Mustang V6 Auto. I waste him all the time in my 98SE 5sp. The stick Mustangs are definitely harder, but with these two cars I think it would probably come down to the driver.....
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99+ V6's have a lot more power than the pre 99's. 190 vs something liek 150 or 160.
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What basic mod would make a max faster than a gt mustang? Not including a supercharger or turbo or even NOS.
What would the minimum be to make them even?
Old Aug 31, 2000 | 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by breaux124
What basic mod would make a max faster than a gt mustang? Not including a supercharger or turbo or even NOS.
What would the minimum be to make them even?
Nothing... no basic mod will get you close to a 2K GT giving equal driver.
Old Aug 31, 2000 | 01:28 PM
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To beat a 94-98 GT

It shouldn't take much. Some people have beaten GT's with no mods. Now, 99+ GT's have 260hp instead of 215-225hp so it would take at least a SC or NOS for most people to hang. Yes there are exceptions but for the most part, a 5spd max would need a power adder to hang with the new GT. The 99+ LX v6 mustang now has 190hp instead of 145 in the 94-98. The max and v6 stang are pretty evenly matched.
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OK, time to settle this once and for all

My friend bought a 99 Mustang V6 automatic when it just came out. I took a ride in it and it felt like ****. It was like being in a noisy Buick with less room (not that I have been in a Buick, just using it as an example.) I saw him in school and asked him how the car was and he saw it's alright. I ask any mods? he says"nope". Wanna race? "okay"

I let him take off and go ahead about 1/2 a second, then I accelerated NORMALLY and when I reached ~10mph, I just punched it and blasted past him at about 45mph. ALL stangs suck it hard, especially a V6 auto. Not even a 5-speed will beat a Maxima auto, although it would be a better challenge. If anyone is going to get el cheapo, get a camaro V6 auto that will beat a manual V6 stang.

Check out my post on "Beat 2 Pus-stangs"
https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=918
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Good job there MaxRx7

That highly intelligent post sure settled it.
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Re: OK, time to settle this once and for all

Originally posted by MaxRX7
My friend bought a 99 Mustang V6 automatic when it just came out. I took a ride in it and it felt like ****. It was like being in a noisy Buick with less room (not that I have been in a Buick, just using it as an example.) I saw him in school and asked him how the car was and he saw it's alright. I ask any mods? he says"nope". Wanna race? "okay"

I let him take off and go ahead about 1/2 a second, then I accelerated NORMALLY and when I reached ~10mph, I just punched it and blasted past him at about 45mph. ALL stangs suck it hard, especially a V6 auto. Not even a 5-speed will beat a Maxima auto, although it would be a better challenge. If anyone is going to get el cheapo, get a camaro V6 auto that will beat a manual V6 stang.

Check out my post on "Beat 2 Pus-stangs"
https://maxima.org/forums/showthread.phtml?threadid=918
I kinda doubt that, the 5spd stangs seem to be doing low 15s high 14s stock....maybe he got a lemon?
Old Aug 31, 2000 | 03:42 PM
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Still looking for these 14 second V6 00 Stangs..

I've seen two modded 5 speed V6 00 Stangs pull off blistering 15.8/9s@87mph. They take off good then they fall real flat after 2nd gear. That 14.99 second V6 Stang everyone is quoting was driven by Evan Smith who is the same guy that got a 12.8 out of a stock 98 Z28, a 13.3 out of a stock 93 Trans Am, and a 12.6 out of a stock C5. This guy knows how to drive, they run on really really prepped tracks, in cold 40 degree weather, and they take what they can out of the car. The V6 Stang had it's trunck gutted, muffler removed, powersteering belt removed, and intake silencer removed. They ran 11 times and got lots of 15s and finally hit a 14.99. Remember that.

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I am aware of that

That's why I posted realistic times of 15.3-15.8 for 5spd and 16.2-16.7 for auto. These are clearly in the range of a Maxima.
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2000 Maxima auto will beat a 99 Mustang v6 auto. My girlfriend has one, they suck and are slow and i killed it

Old Sep 14, 2000 | 03:00 PM
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the pre 2000 v-6 you will kill

but the 2000 v-6 should beat you...the 2000 gt will kill you
Old Sep 14, 2000 | 03:01 PM
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the pre 2000 v-6 you will beat handily

but the 2000 v-6 should beat you...the 2000 gt will kill you......it killed me....
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my boyfriend has a 90 mustang 5.0 and he runs low 14's stock. i heard that a max and a mustang have the same horsepower stock but the only reason why a mustang will kick butt is because a max is heavier.
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i raced a 95 v6 stang(5 sp) with my moms old 97 auto and i wrecked him. it was my friends friend from school so he knew we were racin. He also isnt that bad of a shifter.
P.S. Why would neone buy a 6 cylinder stang?



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