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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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ANyone upgrade their horn?

A guy cut me off the other day at 70mph on the #2 freeway lane. I had to slam my brakes to avoid hitting him, and laid into the horn at the same time.

Almost make me laugh...not exactly a commanding horn we have on these.

Anyone do anything to improve the sound?
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Truck air horn?

Cadillac four-note horn...

Hella Supertones...

Or you can swap 350z horns directly onto our cars.

Just a few options.

I'm opting for the Cadillac four-note system when I can find one.
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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I installed Hella Supertones (the german version) into my car 2 years ago... Super loud and always gets peoples attention.
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Horn replacement is all over the Org, but nothing recent by any of the contemporary Org members, as far as I know.

Here's the Hella product line PDF.
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
Truck air horn?

Cadillac four-note horn...

Hella Supertones...

Or you can swap 350z horns directly onto our cars.

Just a few options.

I'm opting for the Cadillac four-note system when I can find one.
How does your 350z sound different than the Maxima?

Cadillac four-note?
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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So the 350z horns are a plug and play replacement?
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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So the 350z horns are a plug and play replacement?
From what I read, yes. So are the 6th gen Maxima ones which are louder as well.
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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I've had Hella horns for 3 or 4 years now. A pair of Hella horns are about 112 DB, probably twice as loud as stock. I left a stock horn in the engine bay by the power steering oil resevoir as this is part of the alarm. I mounted the two Hella's behind the grille, you'll have to make a bracket for the one horn. The Hella horns are painted a bright red, so I took the red covers off and painted them flat black so you won't see them through the grill.
Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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How does your 350z sound different than the Maxima?

Cadillac four-note?
Z horn has a deep note.

It's not that high-pitched, ricey scooter sound like our Maxima has.

Some of the older-style Cadillacs had four horns:

Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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I put in some cheap air horns I got from Harbor Freight. They are louder but not exactly the sound I'm looking for so I'll be changing to something else eventually.
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 05:52 AM
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Z horn has a deep note.

It's not that high-pitched, ricey scooter sound like our Maxima has.
According to this diagram, the Z horns use a trumpet design, as opposed to the disc horns on the Maxima. (And about $100 total for both, high and low tone horns.)

That would explain the difference in tone.

Would you mind popping the hood on your Z and confirming the design difference for us?
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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I did Hella Supertones. Snap a quick shot at work in the parking garage:

Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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While I was skimming YouTube for horn sounds, I discovered these:



Which are actually pretty close to the sound I'm looking for. And they're pretty cheap to boot.

Rochester: To answer your question, the Z does use the trumpet design. I was looking at them to see how possible it would be to swap them to the Maxima a while back.
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:15 AM
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to bad you didn't have this when he cut you off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PJJDAc7gzY
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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yeah, that's what I'm talking about!
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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I've wanted one of those air horns for a long time.

I don't know where I'd mount it, though. And I'm not sure if I can justify the price tag...

Also not sure how the local police department would feel if I rolled up behind someone and unleashed a ferry horn...
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Thanks, Brett! Yes, those PIAA trumpets sound so much better than our crappy little disc horns. Nice video find.

How do they sound compared to your 350Z?

The solution to my nagging questions are starting to fall into place:
Trumpet > Disc
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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Those PIAA horns are actually almost exactly like the stock Z horn:



This is the video the kid posted above. He blows the stock horn right before the ferry horn, though.
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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1997MAXZ: Thanks.

You've got me wanting train horns now.

Something about the idea of a little Nissan Maxima rolling around and sounding louder than a truck is just comical to me. Same with that 350z.
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So... PIAA Sport Horns. I wonder how you mount them? Pointing downward, or pointing to each fender?

Anyone have any thoughts to the wiring? Would I have to use a relay and wire them separate, or could I just plug-n-play?

Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Thanks, Brett! Yes, those PIAA trumpets sound so much better than our crappy little disc horns. Nice video find.

How do they sound compared to your 350Z?

The solution to my nagging questions are starting to fall into place:
Trumpet > Disc
They have two flavors of PIAA sport horns. 400/500Hz and 500/600Hz. I like the higher 500/600Hz

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So... PIAA Sport Horns. I wonder how you mount them? Pointing downward, or pointing to each fender?

Anyone have any thoughts to the wiring? Would I have to use a relay and wire them separate, or could I just plug-n-play?
The maxima horns are through relays all ready, so that should not be a concern unless the PIAA horns draw a hellacious amount of current. The relay is in the box by the power steering reservoir.

Also, leave the horn in that is under the hood by the reservoir as this is part of the car's security ststem.

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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They have two flavors of PIAA sport horns. 400/500Hz and 500/600Hz. I like the higher 500/600Hz

[youtube]EV0CXA1xSZQ[/you tube]
400/500Hz for me. I like the "Americanized" (I guess you can call it that since most American cars honk in that key) better than the..well I don't know what to call the other set.

Originally Posted by DennisMik
The maxima horns are through relays all ready, so that should not be a concern unless the PIAA horns draw a hellacious amount of current. The relay is in the box by the power steering reservoir.

Also, leave the horn in that is under the hood by the reservoir as this is part of the car's security ststem.
We have a third horn that I'm not aware of by the power steering reservoir?

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:55 AM
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400/500Hz for me. I like the "Americanized" (I guess you can call it that since most American cars honk in that key) better than the..well I don't know what to call the other set.


I would call the other set, European. I wanted the car to sound different for I am in NYC all the time and I don't want to sound like every taxi in town. It seems like everyone is immune to the normal horn sound there.
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Originally Posted by Rochester
According to this diagram, the Z horns use a trumpet design, as opposed to the disc horns on the Maxima. (And about $100 total for both, high and low tone horns.)

That would explain the difference in tone.

Would you mind popping the hood on your Z and confirming the design difference for us?

Rochester ... I just bought my used on ebay. About half price. I really can't justify buying them new. I think that the supertones might be a little too much.
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Rochester ... I just bought my used on ebay. About half price. I really can't justify buying them new. I think that the supertones might be a little too much.
Thanks, gdal. I think I'm targeting the PIAA, however.


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400/500Hz for me. I like the "Americanized" (I guess you can call it that since most American cars honk in that key) better than the..well I don't know what to call the other set.
Ditto. I'm sold on this one. Ready to order the PIAA 400/500 Kit. Somebody stop me...


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We have a third horn that I'm not aware of by the power steering reservoir?
Ditto. As in, WTF?
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Ditto. I'm sold on this one. Ready to order the PIAA 400/500 Kit. Somebody stop me...

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger as well. Looks like Amazon has it for the cheapest.
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No one stopped me.

So I ordered the PIAA 400/500 kit through Amazon, at $48.59 shipped.

Yea! New Horns!

Here's a reasonable question: does it matter which sequence they install left-to-right... 400/500, or 500/400?

Originally Posted by TallTom
I'm almost ready to pull the trigger as well. Looks like Amazon has it for the cheapest.
It's a race. I am weeening!


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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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No one stopped me.

So I ordered the PIAA 400/500 kit through Amazon, at $48.59 shipped.

Yea! New Horns!

Here's a reasonable question: does it matter which sequence they install left-to-right... 400/500, or 500/400?



It's a race. I am weeening!

Too funny.

As for placement, I think that the only placement concern would be the trumpets. I would assume that the trumpets would be towards the outside fenders of the vehicle.

I also read that some guys peel the stickers off to make them more discreet through the grills.
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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1997MAXZ: Thanks.

You've got me wanting train horns now.

Something about the idea of a little Nissan Maxima rolling around and sounding louder than a truck is just comical to me. Same with that 350z.

I know, i think i would get to be an annoying bastard if I had that setup
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I did Hella Supertones. Snap a quick shot at work in the parking garage:

I will upload a video with my Supertones alittle bit later...
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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Did any of you know there's a simple way to toggle the horn on/off so it no longer beeps when locking the car? Can't remember the key fob sequence... but I did it a few months ago, and much prefer the stealth lock over the look-at-me lock.

Just saying, because it's somewhat on-topic.
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Did any of you know there's a simple way to toggle the horn on/off so it no longer beeps when locking the car? Can't remember the key fob sequence... but I did it a few months ago, and much prefer the stealth lock over the look-at-me lock.

Just saying, because it's somewhat on-topic.
It's supposed to beep when you lock with the key fob? Mine never did that.

I did buy it used two years ago.

EDIT - think I found it:

On most of the newer Nissan keyfobs, if you hold unlock + lock for more than 5 seconds, it will switch to audible lock (horn will beep when locked). Do it again, and it will switch to unaudible lock. (lights will only flash, and unlock will show any signs)

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I will upload a video with my Supertones alittle bit later...
Old Oct 20, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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I just took a look inside the front grill of my 2002 and realized why the horns sound so wimpy. Jeez, they are only like 2 1/2 inches in size. I may have to go for the PIAA 500/600
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They are quite loud.
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It's supposed to beep when you lock with the key fob? Mine never did that.

I did buy it used two years ago.

EDIT - think I found it:
just hold lock and unlock keys for 3 seconds

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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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No one stopped me.

So I ordered the PIAA 400/500 kit through Amazon, at $48.59 shipped.

Yea! New Horns!
Cant wait for you to get them installed. I am seriously considering getting them in the 500/600hz flavor.

Found a better video of the sound.

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I've been eyeing the 400/500 PIAA's for months now, ever since I got my decidedly circus sounding Harbor Freight air horns. I also prefer the lower sound of the 400/500 over the higher 500/600. It just seems to fit the Max better imo.
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They are quite loud.
The video does NOTHING for them... They are much louder than you think...



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