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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Tuning help please

Hey guys I have a relatively stock 2000 maxima, only performance mods are y pipe, high flow cat, and 2.5 inch cat back and a short ram intake.

I'm thinking about getting a tune with some type of fuel management, what's a good fuel management client to go with, bang for the buck? Greaddy emanage? Also about how many hp should I expect from getting my car tuned with that(ballpark estimate)?
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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eehhh its probably not worth it anyways
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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If youre not interested in this thread anymore, mind if I step in?

Well heres my setup:
-DE-k/5spd swap
*vias and power rod delete. Blockoff plate coming soon

-True CAI (in process)

-Stillen Y (unequal)

-Greddy SP2

Will tune with a SAFCI. Kinda rushed into that one but I guess it'll do for now. Im working on getting the ZT-2 off of here but if not, I was looking into the SLC Pure Plus. Looking for a kit that's user firendly, can datalog and is fairly cheap. Any thoughts?

Total noob at tuning so school me! TIA.

OP, sorry if I stepped on your toes. Either way, we both can benefit off the wisdom
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Check the piggyback tuning thread sticky in this section.
Old Jan 15, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MoncefA33
Check the piggyback tuning thread sticky in this section.
+1, that thread has plenty of advice throughout for both the DEK and VQ35. For a quick answer though, E-manage does appear to be the best choice for a DEK even with the characteristic "dip" as it overcomes the stock limiter. You can see on moncef's dyno that it holds power well past the stock redline with just boltons.
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by VQ'rInWLA
If youre not interested in this thread anymore, mind if I step in?

Well heres my setup:
-DE-k/5spd swap
*vias and power rod delete. Blockoff plate coming soon

-True CAI (in process)

-Stillen Y (unequal)

-Greddy SP2

Will tune with a SAFCI. Kinda rushed into that one but I guess it'll do for now. Im working on getting the ZT-2 off of here but if not, I was looking into the SLC Pure Plus. Looking for a kit that's user firendly, can datalog and is fairly cheap. Any thoughts?

Total noob at tuning so school me! TIA.

OP, sorry if I stepped on your toes. Either way, we both can benefit off the wisdom
Np. Im also interested in replies an we have a similar setup.
Old Jan 16, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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From what Ive gathered so far, I can either:

- Street tune with my SAFC. Just need to get a wideband o2 gauge and fiddle with the corrections on the SAFC

or

-Street tune with my SAFC using a wideband KIT via datalogging

No dyno tuning yet since my money's funny at the moment.

Anyways I understand that tuning via datalog is superior to without, but because of the lack of fundage, I may end up tuning without for now. Anyone care to chime in about tuning this way with an AFC as opposed to an EMU or EB? Since I wont be datalogging, Id have to find a good stretch of road to get up to speeds so Im thinking Ill need a hand to tune.

One last thing to help me better comprehend everything, through datalog, it would save my run right thus not needing a partner to help tune? Correct me if Im wrong.

Appreciate the help thus far and upcoming.
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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i've got about the same mods roguhly. if your content with what you have then honestly the tune isnt going to give you much of a difference. i have a neo and on the track it helped for about .3 seconds off my time once i got it tuned.
the emanage maybe better for you especially if you want to keep modding.
a 5speed swap will be something to look into. these autos dont help much until your putting down big numbers
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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This thread is giving me ideas about doing the same with my DE-K. I would like to rev it to about 7K. Does the e-manage also do a spark advance or is it just fuel management only? I'm completely clueless to tuning as well. I've never done it or had it done on anything I've owned so far. Btw my car is a 5 speed

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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EMB can retard timing. EMU can advance it. At the moment, EMU is a unicorn to me
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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e-Manage Ultimate is the most convenient for AFR, MAF rescaling and ignition advance, and rev limiter, which are all important for all motor performance.

The e-Manage Blue needs an injector harness to control the injectors directly and an ignition harness to control the ignition timing, however the Blue ignition circuit has been known not to cooperate when adding timing. It works with pulling timing, though.

e-Ultimate FTW, worth the money if you want a decently powerful tuning system fo ya car.
Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Good to know! Googled the Ultimate and it looks like they're priced in the $600 range... Next question is, what website (company) would be a good reputable place to order it from?
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Originally Posted by VQ'rInWLA
From what Ive gathered so far, I can either:

- Street tune with my SAFC. Just need to get a wideband o2 gauge and fiddle with the corrections on the SAFC

or

-Street tune with my SAFC using a wideband KIT via datalogging

No dyno tuning yet since my money's funny at the moment.

Anyways I understand that tuning via datalog is superior to without, but because of the lack of fundage, I may end up tuning without for now. Anyone care to chime in about tuning this way with an AFC as opposed to an EMU or EB? Since I wont be datalogging, Id have to find a good stretch of road to get up to speeds so Im thinking Ill need a hand to tune.

One last thing to help me better comprehend everything, through datalog, it would save my run right thus not needing a partner to help tune? Correct me if Im wrong.

Appreciate the help thus far and upcoming.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VQ'rInWLA
From what Ive gathered so far, I can either:

- Street tune with my SAFC. Just need to get a wideband o2 gauge and fiddle with the corrections on the SAFC

or

-Street tune with my SAFC using a wideband KIT via datalogging

No dyno tuning yet since my money's funny at the moment.

Anyways I understand that tuning via datalog is superior to without, but because of the lack of fundage, I may end up tuning without for now. Anyone care to chime in about tuning this way with an AFC as opposed to an EMU or EB? Since I wont be datalogging, Id have to find a good stretch of road to get up to speeds so Im thinking Ill need a hand to tune.

One last thing to help me better comprehend everything, through datalog, it would save my run right thus not needing a partner to help tune? Correct me if Im wrong.

Appreciate the help thus far and upcoming.
It will take a horrendously long time to tune just off a wideband gauge with no sort of logging ability. If you are using an SAFC, get a Zeitronix ZT2 at minimum, it is a wideband that can log AFR vs RPM so you actually have the ability to fine tune the SAFC in a few runs.

The EMU & EB are nice because you do not need a wideband that datalogs, just the GReddy AFR harness, hook it up to the wideband and plug it in. Reads the signal, logs it with RPM, injector pulse and voltages off of other sensors.

Typical datalogger will save your runs.
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Ahh I see. So UEGO is definitely out the door. Now Im on the right path. Know exactly what to look for now. Thanks Cef
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Ahh I see. So UEGO is definitely out the door. Now Im on the right path. Know exactly what to look for now. Thanks Cef

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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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This thread is still going? This one should answer most if not all of your questions and is already a sticky.

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ng-thread.html
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