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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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15.3 @ 90...Not happy

Went to the local drag strip tonight and could not run a decide time at all.

Best time slip:

reaction- 0.37 sec
60 ft- 2.31 sec
1/8th- 9.91 sec @ 73.5
1000 ft- 12.85 sec @ 82.57
1/4th- 15.36 sec @ 89.7

This is a auto 02 with just intake, BOP, and spacers minus lim

Why are the times so slow. Even DA corrected is only a 14.8 @ 94.

I did beat a 03 gt mustang and there was a new aura tl only running 16.3

Input is much appreciated
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 01:01 AM
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cool run, sorry your not too happy with your times. im hoping to get out this year and try my old maxima out.
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Cars run slower in KS, didn't notice it until I did some comparison videos up there and down here.

You can't rely solely on a formula to compare how your car is performing, DA corrections are guesstimates pretty much as useful as Bench racing with dyno sheets... it's not.

I improved by .4 when I went from KS to TX and no the DA correction did NOT show that, and my '60 ft's and shifting still wasn't that great.
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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cool run, sorry your not too happy with your times. im hoping to get out this year and try my old maxima out.
sweeet, i love watching ur track videos
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Hmm so looks like cars up there run slower. I wouldn't be disappointed since you can see the tl for example should be faster time wise.
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Yeah must just be Kansas. I have done some research of the other guys there last night and there was a Chrysler 300c srt8 running mid 14s and a supercharger hhr running mid 14s as well. Also a neon srt4, not stock running 17. Granted he wasn't the best drive but still slow.

I wonder why the times in Kansas are so poor? The altitude is only 1335 ft and the weather last night was low 80s.

Maybe i just need a turbo?
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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how was the track? i know their are tracks that have slight inclines and or just not set up good at all
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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The track isn't the best but I don't believe i was ever spinning.

As far as i could tell the track is basically flat.

Maybe a dyno is needed to just determine if the car is down on power or really is just Kansas.

I was managing 2.3 60' on street tires at 31 psi without launching
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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Those were my '60s when I went from 15.4 @ KCIR to 15.0 @ Royal Purple Raceway
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Cars run slower in KS....

Not all of them... Heh.....



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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Yeah i think it was just the track. Last night the same track was hooking and allowing stock 00-04 mustang gt run low to mid 14s. Even a ford edge managed a 16 flat

What should be my next mods excluding headers(dad wont let me) ?
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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even auto u should be running 14s i have a 99 max intake headers down pipe and 226 thousand miles and my best time at 90 degree weather was 15.012
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Your times look ok. I just got back from the 1/8 track like 30 min ago, and I ran a 9.9 temp was 106 and it was my first time racing at a track in over 10 years. Mods are just k&n and bop.
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Originally Posted by 02AutoMax
The track isn't the best but I don't believe i was ever spinning.

As far as i could tell the track is basically flat.

Maybe a dyno is needed to just determine if the car is down on power or really is just Kansas.

I was managing 2.3 60' on street tires at 31 psi without launching
2.3 60fts are hurting your times.

You should be able to get atleast 2.1 60fts.
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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^^ what he said.. but then again, the trap speed seems a little low

try lowering your tire pressure last time and launch it
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 05:20 AM
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Or lowering the car... i think my stock times were 15.0, with so much front end lift u will get some decent wheel spin hence the 60' also
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Just think what you'd run down in TX

Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
Or lowering the car... i think my stock times were 15.0, with so much front end lift u will get some decent wheel spin hence the 60' also
If the front goes up... The rear must go down... Thus your rear struts could be out....
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Just think what you'd run down in TX
Texas - racer's heaven - with 93 octane at the pump and drag strips all over....

Maybe later this fall, if I get everything working... Ennis, Yello Belly, whatever is still open in November...
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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Yeah it was my first time ever racing so I never launched it and I left it in drive.


Will manually shifting help improve times?
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Just think what you'd run down in TX



If the front goes up... The rear must go down... Thus your rear struts could be out....
huh?? lol
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 02AutoMax
Yeah it was my first time ever racing so I never launched it and I left it in drive.


Will manually shifting help improve times?
most certainly lol
Old Aug 29, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
Texas - racer's heaven - with 93 octane at the pump and drag strips all over....

Maybe later this fall, if I get everything working... Ennis, Yello Belly, whatever is still open in November...
I will be in Ennis 11/13 if I have the swap done

02AutoMax you should come down too! Only an 8hr drive.
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Originally Posted by aackshun
I will be in Ennis 11/13 if I have the swap done

02AutoMax you should come down too! Only an 8hr drive.
So that's the IFO show in Ennis, in November? Hmmmm....
Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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8 hour drive is a little much for me lol. Got college and a job so my freedom is basically gone.

Now my remaining freedom will be focused on getting mods to lower that time a bit
Old Sep 1, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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Try ES motor mount poly bushings, best mod I ever did for launching. They are about $100 but installing them takes all day. You can either press the old ones out or burn them out. After you get the old core out you have to hacksaw out chunks of the metal ring left behind and then use a cold chisel and a hammer to tap it out. Installing it is quite easy, just coat the new bushing in synthetic grease and press it in with a bench vice.

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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Mother of god ...What is wrong with that trap speed @_@

89mph ?!?!

there is something wrong with your car
Old Sep 10, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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Yeah tell me about it. I am modifying my intake today and hopefully getting 3 inch exhaust and maybe a y pipe (I know should get headers) soon before I go back. Also need to finish installing the spacers. So I'm hoping all that will get me close to 100 mph.

It definitely is low but the 03 mustang gt only managed 92 mph and a 300c srt8(not stock) only managed 101 mph.
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Better get on those headers since this will probably be the last batch from Cattman.
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Better get on those headers since this will probably be the last batch from Cattman.
Cattman Headers=FTW...And what do you have to install for the spacers cause if its only the two thin ones for the lower it isnt going to be a drastic change,but good luck.....
Old Sep 11, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Yeah thanks to my dad being an engineer he said the thin ones on the LIM wouldn't do much and isn't worth the trouble of taking it apart. So I most likely won't but it would be nice to get the full affect of such a good product.

I make min wage soooooo those headers are out of the question
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Originally Posted by 02AutoMax
Yeah thanks to my dad being an engineer he said the thin ones on the LIM wouldn't do much and isn't worth the trouble of taking it apart. So I most likely won't but it would be nice to get the full affect of such a good product.

I make min wage soooooo those headers are out of the question
What about the altima V6 headers you can get on ebay. They are extremely cheap, and with a new y-pipe you would be set.

I got some for my car and they look good.
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Originally Posted by krazy6
What about the altima V6 headers you can get on ebay. They are extremely cheap, and with a new y-pipe you would be set.

I got some for my car and they look good.
Oh god, your car is even faster now
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Oh god, your car is even faster now
lol, it's still slow.

Got the headers, a vafc, a comp stage 4 clutch, and a fidanza flywheel going in. Got the stage 4 clutch so I can eventually spray this ****.

I should be done doing all that in a couple weeks. Then its time to street tune it.


Anyone have a wideband I borrow? lol
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Originally Posted by 02AutoMax
Yeah thanks to my dad being an engineer he said the thin ones on the LIM wouldn't do much and isn't worth the trouble of taking it apart. So I most likely won't but it would be nice to get the full affect of such a good product.

I make min wage soooooo those headers are out of the question
The thin NWP LIM Spacers do a lot more than most people think. In our testing, the LIM was 30 degrees cooler than before with just these two thin LIM Spacers. The type of phenolic material we use insulates very well, which prevents the heat from transferring from the heads to the LIM.

Also, once the UIM is removed, it only takes an extra 5 minutes to remove the LIM and sit it on the rear valve cover. It's pretty easy to remove since you do not have to relieve fuel pressure or remove the fuel rail or hose. So if you ever have the UIM off in the future again, I would go ahead and install the LIM Spacers you have. It will add a couple/few more HP especially when heat soaked.

And since we just released our 3pc Thermal Intake Spacer Kit for the VQ35DE which doesn't include these two thin LIM Spacers, it will be pretty easy to sell these two Spacers to someone if you aren't interested in installing them. You'll probably be able to get $40 or so for them since our 3pc kit sells for $175 ($50 less than the full kit you got). Just an idea.
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Originally Posted by krazy6
What about the altima V6 headers you can get on ebay. They are extremely cheap, and with a new y-pipe you would be set.

I got some for my car and they look good.
I <3 my set.
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by krazy6
What about the altima V6 headers you can get on ebay. They are extremely cheap, and with a new y-pipe you would be set.

I got some for my car and they look good.

Yeah I would probably just get the obx headers if I was going to get a set. But might just stick with a y pipe and 3 inch exhaust. Should see some gains with that plus those are easy install lol

You plan on going to Kansas International anytime soon?
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Originally Posted by 02AutoMax
Yeah I would probably just get the obx headers if I was going to get a set. But might just stick with a y pipe and 3 inch exhaust. Should see some gains with that plus those are easy install lol

You plan on going to Kansas International anytime soon?
Probably in like a month.
I could meet you there sometime and give you some tips and tricks.
Old Sep 12, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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That would work. I'm hoping to greatly improve my times because right now they are extremely slow even for a auto.

Hard to launch with a auto tranny with 154000 miles and not destroy it
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Originally Posted by 02AutoMax
That would work. I'm hoping to greatly improve my times because right now they are extremely slow even for a auto.

Hard to launch with a auto tranny with 154000 miles and not destroy it
Alright cool.

Just let me know when you head to the track and I'll see if I can make it.
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
The thin NWP LIM Spacers do a lot more than most people think. In our testing, the LIM was 30 degrees cooler than before with just these two thin LIM Spacers. The type of phenolic material we use insulates very well, which prevents the heat from transferring from the heads to the LIM.

Also, once the UIM is removed, it only takes an extra 5 minutes to remove the LIM and sit it on the rear valve cover. It's pretty easy to remove since you do not have to relieve fuel pressure or remove the fuel rail or hose. So if you ever have the UIM off in the future again, I would go ahead and install the LIM Spacers you have. It will add a couple/few more HP especially when heat soaked.

And since we just released our 3pc Thermal Intake Spacer Kit for the VQ35DE which doesn't include these two thin LIM Spacers, it will be pretty easy to sell these two Spacers to someone if you aren't interested in installing them. You'll probably be able to get $40 or so for them since our 3pc kit sells for $175 ($50 less than the full kit you got). Just an idea.
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