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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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Fog Light Replacement? (H3, what color is usuable)

Hi, I have a 2003 Nissan Maxima SE.


My fog lights are out, I called autozone today and they said it takes a 'H3 Type Bulb'

I am unfamiliar with fog lights, and need your insight.


For headlights I'm running 10,000K HID (Blue) As it seem as if the Maxima was already wired for HID lightning...

When i get foglights, I want them to be blue to match the HIDS.

Which foglights are durable and safe to use? Please help, it will be simply dumb looking to have white bright fog lights over powering the blue headlights.

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EDIT: I don't think im running 10,000 K, im running more like 6K but they are BLUE AND NOT WHITE

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ddmtuning.com Pick up a hid kit with h3 10,000k bulbs. I have the DDM slim ballast kit on my fog lights. There's not much modification involved and it's the only way you're getting anywhere close to the same color as your headlights.
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1) Blue is Illegal in all 50 states.
2)4300-6000K is safe to use.
3) Philips, Osram, Morimoto are durable(I'm missing some brands I know.)
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3000k HID fogs FTW!
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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3000k HID fogs FTW!
I love my yellow.. and they're actually good in the fog and rain and whatnot...
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 03VQMAX
1) Blue is Illegal in all 50 states.
2)4300-6000K is safe to use.
3) Philips, Osram, Morimoto are durable(I'm missing some brands I know.)

Im in Illinois, and I am sure blue isn't illegal. I understand anything amber or red is...


But 6000K would still be blue right? I mean... i think thats what im runnin
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagosFinest
Im in Illinois, and I am sure blue isn't illegal. I understand anything amber or red is...

But 6000K would still be blue right? I mean... i think thats what im runnin
Anything above 6000K is asking for trouble, You could probably get away with 8000K, but why? Just for the look of being 'Bluer'?

4300K Is what OEM bulbs use, though you can still get good usable light up through 6000K. I use my headlights for seeing, so the main purpose for me is illumination.

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I also did a little extensive research on the HID legalities/technicalities.

With a range of 3-30k.. It seems as if a lot of cops don't really know the law.

It just depends on the oncoming vehicle, and is it blinding them or not or a too much of a distraction...

I've seen people get away with 10k, and I've actually been getting away with 6k. And down here I've seen pink, green headlights and a bunch of blues. However, comparing to my guys old maxima, no one down here (including me) is running 10k.


It always depends on how they are aimed as well.

Now I've gotten pulled over for no headlights before... (Lol, my mistake) but never the blues.


--Just some thought, now which HID H3 can I use for fog lights? lol
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:23 PM
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Thanks for that picture, really helps. It seems like my lights are more similar to 8,000K.


I just need some foglights to match the headlights.. Im not trying to be the bluest. But keeping the hint of blue without blinding others goes nicely on the silver maxima
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http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...ast-35W-or-55W

35W, H3, Color Of Choice, HID harness (relay), and mounting brackets.... $54.00
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl93VE
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...ast-35W-or-55W

35W, H3, Color Of Choice, HID harness (relay), and mounting brackets.... $54.00

Ok, thanks, and do I really need all that wiring done? Or is the maxima already equipped for HID fog light wiring? And should I get the 55 or 35 wattage... and whats the difference?
Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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Nobody uses those blue crap no man. The more colour you have the less you actually see, get the 3000K because it looks good and it actually helps you in the fog
Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mrjasonlyrics
Nobody uses those blue crap no man. The more colour you have the less you actually see, get the 3000K because it looks good and it actually helps you in the fog
I don't care whatever one else does, I care only what will help illuminate the road and look better on my care.

IMO it looks a lil silly to have blue headlights at 6-8k and bright yellow fog lights at 3k.

HOWEVER, I AM CONSIDERING THE 3K
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I would just get the PIAA plasma yellow, or something to that effect, H3's. Great output and last a long time. I used to have them
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Originally Posted by ChicagosFinest
Ok, thanks, and do I really need all that wiring done? Or is the maxima already equipped for HID fog light wiring? And should I get the 55 or 35 wattage... and whats the difference?
Just from this post alone, I would strongly advise you to take your car to a professional if you want to get HID's retrofitted into the foglights.

If you want something you can plug and play, any over the counter H3 halogen bulb will do (see the PIAA's in the post above mine ^^)
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lol

Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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Just from this post alone, I would strongly advise you to take your car to a professional if you want to get HID's retrofitted into the foglights.

If you want something you can plug and play, any over the counter H3 halogen bulb will do (see the PIAA's in the post above mine ^^)

Yea that's what I planned to do. I did the headlights myself, and reset the ballast to get those going...


This H3 kit im lost, i spoke with my main auto shop today and they said theyll be able to to do them.



Anyhow, for headlights... Should I change them to yellow? Or leave them whiteish/blueish - suggestions?
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Originally Posted by ChicagosFinest
Yea that's what I planned to do. I did the headlights myself, and reset the ballast to get those going...


This H3 kit im lost, i spoke with my main auto shop today and they said theyll be able to to do them.



Anyhow, for headlights... Should I change them to yellow? Or leave them whiteish/blueish - suggestions?
3000K Headlights, 12000k Fogs
Old Nov 20, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl93VE
3000K Headlights, 12000k Fogs

thanks for that sarcastic a** answer.


I think imma go for 3000k HID FOGS, and 6000K HID Headlights.


Keeps a solid JDM look with good visibility.
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Headlights are fine between 4300k and 6000k. Fog lights (if you want them to be functional) should probably be about 3000k. I, on the other hand, do not care if my fog lights are usable. I wanted them to match my headlights so I run both at 6000k. Smart? Probably not. Good looking? Damn straight.

Besides, I've never owned a car with fog lights before now so I'm not really losing a utility I'm used to having.

Now, with all of that said. If you want HID fog lights (which is the only way they will match the HID headlights), and you don't feel comfortable modifying your existing fogs (read - drill holes in the rear caps, do some fancy wiring, reseal those rear caps, find mounting points for the ballasts) then find a mechanic to do it for you. It will save you money in the long run.

As far as the wattage. The factory headlights are 35W. If you use 55W HID's in the fog lights you will overpower your headlights and get a horrible glare.

The wiring harness from DDM tuning IS REQUIRED. When HID's power up they have a huge initial surge. The factory wiring is not designed to handle this much power. The DDM harness uses a relay to power your HID's from it's own heavier wiring.

If you are just looking for simple then the PIAA's are the closest thing you're getting to HID's. They will not match but it's as close as you're getting with just plug and play bulbs.

Am I leaving anything out?
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Headlights are fine between 4300k and 6000k. Fog lights (if you want them to be functional) should probably be about 3000k. I, on the other hand, do not care if my fog lights are usable. I wanted them to match my headlights so I run both at 6000k. Smart? Probably not. Good looking? Damn straight.

Besides, I've never owned a car with fog lights before now so I'm not really losing a utility I'm used to having.

Now, with all of that said. If you want HID fog lights (which is the only way they will match the HID headlights), and you don't feel comfortable modifying your existing fogs (read - drill holes in the rear caps, do some fancy wiring, reseal those rear caps, find mounting points for the ballasts) then find a mechanic to do it for you. It will save you money in the long run.

As far as the wattage. The factory headlights are 35W. If you use 55W HID's in the fog lights you will overpower your headlights and get a horrible glare.

The wiring harness from DDM tuning IS REQUIRED. When HID's power up they have a huge initial surge. The factory wiring is not designed to handle this much power. The DDM harness uses a relay to power your HID's from it's own heavier wiring.

If you are just looking for simple then the PIAA's are the closest thing you're getting to HID's. They will not match but it's as close as you're getting with just plug and play bulbs.

Am I leaving anything out?
Same here, 6K top and bottom, great visibility. I can never get used to yellow lighting.
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Yeah but I did just have an igniter go bad on one of my DDM ballasts. I have the new one, just been to lazy to get under there. Probably swap it when I do my oil.
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Can both of you guys (rebelhell & 03VQMAX) Post pics here of your cars running the 6000k HID fogs/headlights ? I would like to see them thanks.
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Let me see if I find some, this new photobucket redesign has me going crazy
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Here we go, my point and shoot isn't the best....

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Oh, she's got a black eye. Don't make me post pictures of her like that! Lol.
I'll see if I can get that ballast switched out after work tonight.
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Oh, she's got a black eye. Don't make me post pictures of her like that! Lol.
I'll see if I can get that ballast switched out after work tonight.
photos of yours?
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Originally Posted by ChicagosFinest
photos of yours?
Was stuck at work late yesterday and ate too much today. I'll get that ballast in tomorrow and get some pics posted. I have to fix the plastic splash guard thing under the front end anyway. A big *** raccoon tore it off right before my suspension absorbed it.
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I finally got the ballast replaced and the splash guard put back up this morning. I'll get some pictures posted tonight after work.
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Ok, here we go. Best pictures I could get on my smart phone in the parking lot at work but I think you'll get the idea.



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Clean Looking and thanks. Now how long have you had these HIDs installed, I understand you lose some blueish tint after they burn a little while... My HIDS are closer to white now, however still blueish..

After seeing these threads/ countless pictures I can't remember the exact temperature but im running somewhere between 6-8k (most likely 6k)



And when at night I take it you always run the headlight/foglight combo... with both on visibility can't be too bad right?
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Yeah. I always run them both at night. I just leave the fogs on and the headlights in Auto. That way the fogs come on the same time the headlights do.
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Yeah. I always run them both at night. I just leave the fogs on and the headlights in Auto. That way the fogs come on the same time the headlights do.


Cool, and for better visibility purposes are you a fan of the 6000k HID / 3000k Fog light combo? Blue headlights/Yellow Foglights?

Gives it more JDM look but different colors is ehh... it might look cool tho lol
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In my opinion the yellow fog lights are really only an advantage in heavy fog. The yellow is supposed to reduce the glare which is why they are called fog lights. The 6000k fogs increase night visibility a little bit but I really did for the looks.
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Originally Posted by rebelhell
In my opinion the yellow fog lights are really only an advantage in heavy fog. The yellow is supposed to reduce the glare which is why they are called fog lights. The 6000k fogs increase night visibility a little bit but I really did for the looks.

true, my goal has been for the looks as well.

I was thinking what about 8k headlights, and 6k HID fogs?
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I'm sure 8k would be ok. I would'nt go higher than that though. You start to lose visibility quickly in the higher temperature ranges.
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i had 8k in my fogs for some time and it was good. last week i switched to 3k yellow and they look way better visibility wise.
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Originally Posted by DOODOOCHIP
i had 8k in my fogs for some time and it was good. last week i switched to 3k yellow and they look way better visibility wise.

Yea Im going 3k fogs...



As of right now I believe I have 6k headlights and on dark roads they kinda suck...



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