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Old Aug 25, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Help needed 3.5 swap from maxima gurus

Ok my problem is i cant get the car to stay on and idle without holding the gas.
Know this is My setup 3.5 from an 07 max fully built Long block i Also went with return fuel with aftermarket rails,650 injectors running a supercharger walbro 400 ,pf tb.
I have tried the 4thgen idle control and the pf idle control and nothin,i had my tuner come by and try to adjust the fuel and he gets it goin But then after a minute the car scrambles so the fuel adjustment we made gets reseted by it self so know i went back to stock injectors and no blower and car doesnt idle just shuts off.this has been a mission i wasnt able to make it to the eastcoast máxima meet due to this problem.
So When i turn the car on fuel pressure is at 51 then in a minute or less pressure drops to 35 ,40 and catalyic converter gets fire red.

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Clogged cat?

What are you using to tune it?
Old Aug 25, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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Im using EMU But know Im using stock ecu we adjust fuel With the emu And the stock ecu would reset itself back and it would scamble and turn off.so know im on stock ecu,injectors and no blower and fuel pressure drops to 40,35.Im must be having a system issue. And runing a return fuel system.

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Ok my problem is i cant get the car to stay on and idle without holding the gas.
Know this My setup 3.5 from an 07 max fully built Long block i Also went with return fuel with aftermarket rails,650 injectors running a supercharger walbro 400 ,pf tb.
I have tried the 4thgen idle control and the pf idle control and nothin,i had my tuner come by and try to adjust the fuel and he gets it goin But then after a minute the car scrambles and the adjust reset them self so know i went back to stock injectors and no blower and car doesnt idle just shuts off.this has been a mission i coils not make it to the eastcoast máxima meet due to this problem.
So When turn the car on fuel is at 51 then in a minute or lesa pressure drops to 35 ,40 and catalyic converter gets fire red.
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Im using EMU But know Im using stock ecu we adjust it With emu Anne the stock ecu would reset it.so know on stock ecu,injectors and no blower and fuel pressure drops to 40,35
Your posts are conflicting and confusing at best.
Be more specific, use spacing and proofread or spellcheck ffs.
Old Aug 25, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Sorry Man Im on a phone i will fix.
I have brand new 3" exhaust. Aem fuel pressure regulater.

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Old Aug 26, 2013 | 06:54 AM
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What's your fuel pressure? Why are you running 600cc injectors? Do you have a wideband?
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I was running 650cc But know stock and wideband yes i have.i made some progress today i was leaking threw the intake maniflod so car stays on. But fuel pressure still drops to 35,40 and rough idle.

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Old Sep 8, 2013 | 09:40 PM
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ok so i changed a bunch of sensors and nothin took away all the codes i have except evap purge control and car starts but stays on at 350 rpm but if i disconnect maf car idles at 800 to 1100 rpm and i know its not the maf cause i tired my buddys maf from a running car,also i cant control the idle with the 4th gen iacv and i changed the iacv AND NOTHIN,so
im running a 350z kinetix maniflod would i need a rpm switch i just followed up again on swap info and it says rpm switch could this be my problem also my afr is reading very rich 10 flat.
Old Sep 9, 2013 | 05:14 AM
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So I know the rwd and fwd vq35 blocks have lots of differences, so would the 350z kinetix im work on the fwd block?
Old Sep 9, 2013 | 07:29 AM
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So I know the rwd and fwd vq35 blocks have lots of differences, so would the 350z kinetix im work on the fwd block?
in order for it to bolt on u need the 350z lower im and only difference i see it doesnt have a egr port.and yes its been done before.
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this is were im at know car stays on but rev limiter bounces from 600 to 1000 or stays down at 300 car does not stay stable and iacv does not control and running very rich 10 flat unless i give it gas afr goes up a little.
these are my codes 0443,0446,0325 the first two codes must be because havent connected the purge valve.
also when u give it gas car stutters and then revs or revs and then stutters at around 3 to 4000 rpm.
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also since car idles so low then car shuts off with ingiction switch stays on and injectors keep on firing while car off unless i turn off completly.
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Adjust the FPR to lean it out at idle.
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 12:45 PM
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Adjust the FPR to lean it out at idle.
And how do u do that,this my first build learning as i go.
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And how do u do that,this my first build learning as i go.
You need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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[QUOTE=Quickywd01;8849525][/QUO I got pics of the build but im missing the chapters of the engine progress and until know. due to my phone falling in the toilet. so i will take some pics later on,how sits know here are some pics that i have.
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Old Sep 10, 2013 | 02:17 PM
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I would double check the fuel return system, make sure you have your lines connected right. If all is well I would check the injectors to make sure one isn't locked open, if that is good, check for vacuum leaks.
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I would double check the fuel return system, make sure you have your lines connected right. If all is well I would check the injectors to make sure one isn't locked open, if that is good, check for vacuum leaks.
my fuel lines are good i will double check my vacuum lines but i dont think thats the problem.
Old Sep 10, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Might as well make it into a build thread.if this thing can run than it will be a success.TITLE WILL BE CHANGED WHEN IT GETS RID OF THESE REDICULOUS PROBLEM.
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And how do u do that,this my first build learning as i go.
Googling says turning the set screw counter clockwise will lower the fuel pressure on an AEM adj. FPR. (lower pressure = less fuel)

Did you install a fuel pressure gauge with the FPR? You should have one so you know you're not adjustnig too low or high.

Anywhere from 30-60 psi is fine just to get it started and idling ok, then mess with the EMU to get the fuel pressure around 45ish.
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YES I Have all of that,i had the pressure at 51 and even lowered to 40 and same result.best thing would be to do a video of cold starts and then when it gets hot.
At cold starts car seems to run with rev limiter boucning from 600 t0 1000 and starts off with an afr of 15 to 14 but starts droping at about 20 seconds in,straight down to 10.When hot,rev limiter drops to about 300 and car dies and the injectors stay firing(u hear them clicking).After hot if,i disconnect the maf car runs a little smoother but afr never changes (10).

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Is your fpr connected to a vacuum line?

Mine is and you are supposed to dial it in with the vacuum line disconnected.
Just a thought..
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That is 1 line that i dont have connected.i will try that but still dont think that would cure my injectors still firing after it cuts off.maybe it will help the running rich part.
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I would try running it without the EMU just so you have less variables.

Lower the fuel pressure more if you're still 10.0 at 40 psi
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im running stock ecu,this problem doesnt let me adjust with the emu.
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my blower is equipped with upgraded bearings 928 impeller and 2.62 pulley.

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lsd tranny from maxfever

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lower the fuel pressure more.

If at 30 psi, it still doesn't lean out, as suggested above, check to see if an injector is sticking open.
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Maybe timing skipped a tooth?
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the timing is good if not some injectors wouldnt work.i can move the car back and forward.
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So i connected any vacuum line that was off including fuel regulater vacuum and connected boost gauge and gauge isnt reading any vacuum then drop fuel pressure down to about 20,engine sounds better but still runs afr of 10,when i drop fuel pressure.Car also struggles to rev.
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Sounds like you need to start over.

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You have an air leak on a gasket somewhere perhaps. That's how my car was when the egr was open on the manifold. But you mention the fire red cat which means way to much fuel is passing by and making it burn up. You're injectors are huge for your setup. Take a step back, think, read a little, and get back at it. Whoever is helping you is a great friend but you need some more knowledge to make this work. Read a little about fuel injector sizing, adjustable fuel pressure regulators, and then the emu will take care of it. This is what I did for injectors: http://forums.maxima.org/supercharge...injectors.html Cheap, simple, and effective. They come off a factory supercharged beast in the first place. No need to spend $4-800 on injectors.

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Like i said before i am running everything stock, no blower,injectors,ecu,maf,except 400 walbro and fuel return line,it seems i have an electrical problem my injectors stay firing when engine cuts off on its own.
I had air leaks before with this maniflod then i took care of that and connected the walbro 400 directly to the battery and that fixed the red cats and the fuel pressure from droping.
This build was done on a budget with patience,majority of the parts came off of forums.about 80% of the parts were new.

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Like i said before i am running everything stock, no blower,injectors,ecu,maf,except 400 walbro and fuel return line,it seems i have an electrical problem my injectors stay firing when engine cuts off on its own.
I had air leaks before with this maniflod then i took care of that and connected the walbro 400 directly to the battery and that fixed the red cats and the fuel pressure from droping.
This build was done on a budget with patience,majority of the parts came off of forums.about 80% of the parts were new.
Majority is 20%??
I'm sorry, but I'm done with this thread..
Good luck.
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Majority is 20%??
I'm sorry, but I'm done with this thread..
Good luck.
Alot of the forums parts were unused which means new.Ingeneral 80% of the parts were new.
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Walbro 400 too big, 250 good. Injectors too big, 400 good. Injectors stay firing? Yikes!
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Walbro 400 too big, 250 good. Injectors too big, 400 good. Injectors stay firing? Yikes!
Yes injectors firing is an explainable problem.as for the pump and the injectors its for my power goals dont want to be short.But first trying to get this to run stock for know.
I must have some type of shortage,my problem is a needle in a hay sack.



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