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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Do these cars have something in the tune when they're brand new (mine has about 100 miles on it) that limits power when floored?
If I'm going slow and have it in 1rst in manual mode and floor it it lags for a while. Almost feels faster a part throttle? Do they get quicker with a little more miles? This car feels way slower than my Altima SE-R but according to the stats should only be slightly slower.

Haven't taken it to redline yet just about 5000 rpm floored. Don't want to hammer full tilt just yet. Plus I don't know what kind of gas the dealer filled the tank with.

Anyone comments from personal experience?

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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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go about 75-90% throttle and report back.
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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These cars aren't very fast on take off or low end but between 30-80 these cars are fast
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Amerikaner83
go about 75-90% throttle and report back.
You mean take it to where you can feel the throttle get harder and not push it all the way to the floor?
Why does the throttle have that "step" to it?
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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Somebody tell him about the secret button under the gas pedal
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Somebody tell him about the secret button under the gas pedal
YOU JUST DID
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Amerikaner83
YOU JUST DID
Haha
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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Enlighten please guys. Lol
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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I guess it depends on what you are coming out of.
My last car was a 4 cylinder Accord, so the moment I sat behind the wheel of my Max, I was impressed with the power - as a matter of fact, I rarely have to floor it because of how much power there is available and how good the throttle/CVT works.
That said, a few things of note: manual mode is slower than leaving it in D. Frankly, I really wanted the paddle shifters, which contributed to my selection of a sport model. Now, I almost never use them and tend to avoid S mode (because, again, it's slower and seems to lag for no reason).
Once you adjust to driving a powerful V6 with a CVT, shifting seems pointless (in this car).
Your car is brand new, so you shouldn't be flooring it yet anyway. Let it break it first.
The secret button: if you floor it, there is what feels like a button under the accelerator - you'll feel what feels like a button being pressed. It really gives it the beans.
Try giving the car a push in D. If you still feel lag, you might have a problem.
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Racerbox77
Do these cars have something in the tune when they're brand new (mine has about 100 miles on it) that limits power when floored?

Haven't taken it to redline yet just about 5000 rpm floored. Don't want to hammer full tilt just yet.

100 miles and you haven't red lined it yet, only 5,000 RPM ?

Nice to see you're breaking her in easy, lol
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Get used to the CVT.
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 05:47 PM
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This thread is all all over the place, kinda funny though.

Ya man really take it easy on her during the break in period. Don't even push it until close to 500 miles. I'd also suggest filling it with premium and see if that gives you any boost. While your at it check your tire pressure and make sure it's in the 33-35/36psi range and balanced all around.

Hehe, the secret button. I remember asking about that not too long ago.
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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you cant really "floor" this car and have it move unless its already moving. stomping the gas pedal for me does the same thing; you have to kinda ease into it if that makes sense...
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
you cant really "floor" this car and have it move unless its already moving. stomping the gas pedal for me does the same thing; you have to kinda ease into it if that makes sense...
So the secret button is what exactly? I feel the last bit of throttle when you push the gas pedal so that makes it slower if floored? I don't get it.....
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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So the secret button is what exactly? I feel the last bit of throttle when you push the gas pedal so that makes it slower if floored? I don't get it.....
It's just wide open throttle acceleration. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about how quickly you press the gas. If you expect the car to jump like a manual or automatic when you stomp the gas, it's simply not going to do that. I don't know the mechanics behind it or really why; I can just tell you that even with all the mods + tune I've done the car still doesn't respond to stomping on the gas pedal right off the line. I used to think something was wrong with the car until I learned how to drive it. Go easy with it and the car will accelerate much faster. Keep in mind that this transmission is not built out of gears, but two cones facing each other held together with a steel plated belt.
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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It's all due to the cvt, taking off from a stop it takes a second to keep up with engines output. Stupid but like someone said above you just need to get use to it. The secret button isn't a button, once u go full throttle you'll feel pressure of the sort push it harder and you'll go zooooommm... If that makes sense

People just call it a button, it's like in gone in 60 seconds don't press the red button, in this case u want too
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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It's the ECU, got this from a tech from the Smyrna plant, it's designed to prevent CVT failure or to cause damage to the CVT as it's belt driven. So in other words if you stomp on the gas from a dead stop (yes you might get wheel spin) the motor is not putting full power till the ECU says it's safe to do so... This is with or without traction control on its a fail safe mode I guess.
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by esco115
It's the ECU, got this from a tech from the Smyrna plant, it's designed to prevent CVT failure or to cause damage to the CVT as it's belt driven. So in other words if you stomp on the gas from a dead stop (yes you might get wheel spin) the motor is not putting full power till the ECU says it's safe to do so... This is with or without traction control on its a fail safe mode I guess.
The most educated answer I've read. Will an up Rev tune solve this problem?
Old Nov 14, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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Op... Didn't you take the car for a test drive before buying it?

I'm not sure if you have a problem or not, but it seems like if you think it has a problem and you just bought the car wouldn't you have notice it during the test drive?
Old Nov 15, 2013 | 05:37 AM
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Obviously you have not read the owner's manual.

"During the first 1,200 miles (2,000 km), follow these recommendations to obtain maximum engine performance and ensure the future reliability and economy of your new vehicle. Failure to follow these recommendations may result in shortened engine life and reduced engine performance.

Avoid driving for long periods at constant
speed, either fast or slow, and do not run the
engine over 4,000 rpm.
Do not accelerate at full throttle in any gear.
Avoid quick starts."


PS highlight the text for better readability

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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Racerbox77
The most educated answer I've read. Will an up Rev tune solve this problem?
Nope.
Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Racerbox77
The most educated answer I've read. Will an up Rev tune solve this problem?
Originally Posted by Ghozt
Nope.
Answered... Lol ECUs now a days are so advanced and linked into every little thing that it's hard to eliminate or change certain settings without causing a CEL or damaging other things, can it ever be done? Maybe, but what tuner tech is going to dedicate time and money on a family car with a CVT??? That's me being realistic.
Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by esco115
Answered... Lol ECUs now a days are so advanced and linked into every little thing that it's hard to eliminate or change certain settings without causing a CEL or damaging other things, can it ever be done? Maybe, but what tuner tech is going to dedicate time and money on a family car with a CVT??? That's me being realistic.
I believe I read an Uprev tune does help with the torque management. Ghozt don't you have a tune? It helped a lot assume?

Also break in periods are bs for the most part. That's what any high performance shop will tell you. Drag cars are wailed on with no miles. I did notice from what Ghozt said is if you don't give it full throttle right away it does feel faster. As soon as my first tank of gas is gone I'm going to change the oil and put my AEM in then fill it with 93 and see how feels.

Thanks guys
Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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The tune made the car all-around faster, but the way it responds when you're at a standstill hasn't changed. As others mentioned I'd heard it was related to the car protecting the transmission from getting destroyed. I still have to kinda ease into the throttle before I can really mash it. If I "downshift" from a rolling 40 and mash it, the car takes off like a jet.
Old Nov 15, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
If I "downshift" from a rolling 40 and mash it, the car takes off like a jet.
Truth!
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