I need to know if this is normal or what? U can tell the car is jacked up in the front. been driveing it few days and still no signs of settleing. the rear has no gap b/w the fenders, the front I can put 3 fingers b/w the tire and fender. Should I get Spring Rubbers and jack the rear a bit, or get clamps and tie the front down some? Spring Rubber sound better to me b/c I can have the rear a little higher. I have no box in the trunk so its not like the rear is heavy. Please post if U guys know. I'll post pics soon when I got time to snap a few.

 

damn Doug I would've cut the factory springs if I wanted to pimp.

 

Your front is not higher than the rear. Don't look at the wheel wells to judge. The front wheel well is cut higher thant he back... look at the side of the car... the bottom of the doors... it's even. it just looks like it's not. I have H&Rs as well.

-Shing

 

Hehe. I don't know, I think a lot of sets I've seen have a 1.5" drop on the front wheels and 1.25" on the rears. If this is the case with this set, did you put the right ones on the right wheels? (I'm just steming off here, I don't actually know if they make springs with different lengths for different tires .....)

 

The gaps are always gonna look bigger in the front because you've got FWD. Wheelwells are typically bigger in FWD cars than they are in RWD cars. The wheelwells are also shorter in the rear and in the front. That's where you're seeing all the difference. It will take atleast 2 weeks for your car to fully settle, but the front gaps will always be bigger. My rears have a 2 finger gap and the fronts have over a 3 finger gap.

Dave

 

Shing, I parked the car on a even ground and looked at the car from the side and the rear sags more then the front. U can tell by looking at it. not just the gap, the car looks like its lower in the rear. the drop is 1.4 front and 1.3 rear with H&R springs..

 

It's because of the wheel wells. The rear is not any lower... measer the car at the bottom of the door frame, true me, the front is not going to be that much more different. Plus even stock the maxima has a sag a$$ look to it...

-Shing

 

Truely I'm disappointed in the way it looks, but if thats how its gonna be, then I'll just learn to live with it.

 

Get us some pics and post them soon, eveyone has been waiting to see what H&R's look like on the 2k...the way you make it sound it wasn't worth the wait? Forget looks how do they feel?

Shing is right though, I think the rear of my Max doesn't need to be lowered at all it sits just right, and the front looks like i can go off roading! It's probably just the illusion you get looking at no wheel gap in the rear and a bunch in the front.

 

Change it to B&G springs, they drop 1.6inches all around.....just kidding...yeah..even the factory looks saggy in the rear than in the front...

 

This sort of concerns me because I am about to put them on my car...anyone have a good side view of their 4th gen. with H&R's installed? Just don't want to regret putting them on...

 

You won't... you probably will if you don't though... looking at that 4X4 of a max.

-Shing

 

I know a guy who cut a 1/2 a coil off his intrax springs (front) his ride is level.He cut the coil off the top

 

It's a common trait for the beam axle cars to have the rear lower. My 98 had it, seen many others lower. And its from the center of the car you can see from the bottom its lower, I never look at the wheel well.

 

Hey give it some time. I also have the H&R's but I have a 99. It did look like **** at the begining, but it took a while for the springs to actually set. Give it some months.

Chris

 

Ok Look at this black maxima in the above picture. the one on the left. can't U tell the back is lower then the front on that pic.. thats about how mine looks but the rear is a bit lower, and front a little higher. I'll take some pics when it stops raining one of these days. The ride is good, No bounceing around, go over a hump in a road, car jumps once and it settles right down, no bounding around like the factory springs. the ride is not much differant from the factory springs, just U can feel it not give much when U go over bumps in the road. I like the ride, just the look is what has me concerned.

 

The picture looks like that but in person it is level. He is using ST springs and he cut a coil off the front of the car.

Chris

 

Actually they do get affected by weight, any spring/shock will. I had 100lb of stereo stuf in my 98 Maxima and it was slightly lower in the back with it compared to before.

 

standing on the bumper and having a box in the trunk are 2 differant things. I had a box in my 4thGen, and a box in my 2K and the car didn't drop much b/c the box is sitting right over the shock/axle beam so the weight is not as much there b/c UR closer to the middle of the car so the weight is about 60%rear and 40%front. now standing on the bumper.. the car will drop b/c of the weight at the very end and will cause the rear to drop. Man for that I can sit on my hood and make the front drop a bit

Just noticed today, the car is pulling to the right also. got it alligned when I got em put in but its pulling now. will give it a week, and take it in and get it realligned. if it stops raining on of these days I can take a ruler out and measure. OOOOO THE PROBLEMS WITH MODDING

 

Don't argue with Doug... just a hint.

 

doug let me know when to sharpen the knife, things getting choppy out here.

 

Ok boyz lets take this to the chatroom or Email. Nuf bashing for now, I'll post pics of the car sometime this week when it stops raining so U can look and see if the car is lower or not. Lets drop it til then.

 

Don't say I didn't warn you... Doug can go at it 24/7....

 

I don't know about H&R's, but with my Intrax, my stereo had an effect on the height. When I had an 80 lb. box in the trunk, my rear sagged quite a bit. Replaced it with a smaller box, and it leveled out. I drive with 5 people in the car and my back wheels are tucked.

 

Since looks is the bottom line here, just put on some springs ribbers on the back. That should take care of it, correct?

 

I seriously cannot believe there's an argument over whether or not additional weight will cause a car's butt to lower.

OF COURSE IT WILL!

Take a friggin engineering class and you'll understand. This has GOT to be one of the stupidest threads in the history of this dip****-laden BBS.

If a spring is rated at, say 200 lbs (hint: that actually mean 200 lbs/in), which is pretty close to what the Maxima rear springs really are +/-30%, the back of the car will drop 1/4" with 100 lbs over the rear axle.

Proof:
200 lbs/in X 2 total rear spring rate (2 rear springs)
= 400 lbs/in total
Force = spring rate * compression distance
F = k*x, where k = rate, F = force (weight), x = drop
Solving for x, x = F/k
-> x =(100lbs)/(400lbs/in)
-> x = 1/4"

If the weight is located in the trunk (like it will be), then the drop will be even more, perhaps 3/8"...reason being that the further away the weight is behind the rear wheels, torque will try to rotate the front of the car off the ground, lessen the weight at the front wheels and distribute more weight on the rears.

Now, you all can argue subjectively whether or not the drop is that much for say 100 lbs worth of stereo equipment, but it's stupid to argue that "there isn't any drop". There is.

 

There weren't a whole lot of people that were arguing the point that the back doesn't sag. Just one guy who wouldn't listen to anyone else.

 

LOL
That's right, time for Keven to regulate!

 

When i drive around with 3 kids in my back seat i notice the rear gets lower too, when i had doubts on one of my rear tires being punctured i told them to all get in rear seat to see if the tire lost a little it didn't but the rear sagged by about an inch wheel lay perfectly in well, no space inbetween , wish my eibachs were like that normally, also anybody know how long tokico's last, i 've had em for about 5k miles now

 

I loaded up my car with everything I own (full trunk and backseat) and then put my motorcycle trailer on with my DR500 on it. I didn't ever scrape, I don't think I ever hit the bumpstops, and it wasn't unstable. BUT the back end dropped at least an inch. How could it not?

 

#1.. I was told that H&Rs don't settle....had mine about 2 months now and car sit's the same height.

#2...If I have 3 adults in the back seat... the car sits an inch/inch and 1 1/2 lower. Stock struts.