to K&N or not to K&N
to K&N or not to K&N
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IF the K&N wasn't doing its job, my oil analysis wouldn't come back so clean. I'd have prof of an air filter not working correctly in my oil samplings.
Hance, just some good advertising by Amsoil. I feel the K&N does it's job perfectly.
Hance, just some good advertising by Amsoil. I feel the K&N does it's job perfectly.
Do you think it's possible that Amsoil might be a little biased against K&N? Their claim that there was absolutely no grit on the oil sample with their filter? That has to be B.S. No filter is 100% Come on man, of course they're going to go after K&N, that's who has all the popularity right now. There are lots of little loopholes that can be used to facilitate their claims.
Originally posted by Badaxxima
Do you think it's possible that Amsoil might be a little biased against K&N? Their claim that there was absolutely no grit on the oil sample with their filter? That has to be B.S. No filter is 100% Come on man, of course they're going to go after K&N, that's who has all the popularity right now. There are lots of little loopholes that can be used to facilitate their claims.
Do you think it's possible that Amsoil might be a little biased against K&N? Their claim that there was absolutely no grit on the oil sample with their filter? That has to be B.S. No filter is 100% Come on man, of course they're going to go after K&N, that's who has all the popularity right now. There are lots of little loopholes that can be used to facilitate their claims.
Ok thanks I guess I will go with K&N
My new MAX
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Originally posted by JJL
Ok thanks I guess I will go with K&N
My new MAX
http://www.geocities.com/jjl2902000/...l?969948203180
Ok thanks I guess I will go with K&N
My new MAX
http://www.geocities.com/jjl2902000/...l?969948203180
Originally posted by JJL
Ok thanks I guess I will go with K&N
My new MAX
http://www.geocities.com/jjl2902000/...l?969948203180
Ok thanks I guess I will go with K&N
My new MAX
http://www.geocities.com/jjl2902000/...l?969948203180
Letter from K&N
I once wrote K&N about some of the claims from their competition that their filters are poor at filtering and here is their reply:
Our filters are tested by an outside, independent laboratory. They have been proven to stop at least 99% of particles on a SAE dust test. This test uses particles in the 0 - 5 micron range and goes up to 20 microns.For comparison, a paper filter also stops 99% on the same test and the OEM minimum standard is 96%. Foam is generally the worst media with a typical efficiency rating of 75 - 85%. To get higher ratings, the foam must be more dense and therefore way more restrictive.
The "tack" characteristic of a K&N allows for increase filtration without loss of flow as well.The testing procedure used is SAE J-726 using ISO Coarse Test Dust. This test is the standard of the air filter industry. The test procedure consists of flowing air through the filter at a constant rate (airflow rate is determined by the application) while feeding test dust into the air stream at a rate of 1 gram per cubic meter of air.As the filter loads with dust the pressure drop across the filter is increased to maintain the prescribed airflow rate. The test is continued until the pressure drop increases 10" H2O above the initial restriction of
the clean element (in this case .78" to 10.78" H2O). At this point the test is terminated. The dirty filter element is then weighed. This weight is compared to the clean element weight to determine the total Dust Capacity. The amount of dust retained by the filter is divided by the total amount of dust fed during the test to determine the Cumulative Efficiency.
The K&N filter achieved the following results:
Dust Capacity: 305 grams
Cumulative Efficiency: 99.05 %
We got started over 30 years ago making filters for motorcycles and off road racers. The filters did so well that these guys wanted them for their cars and trucks. We started making filters for these applications and here we are today. If they did not work, we would not still be here and growing
every year.
We now make filters for Chrysler/Mopar, Ford Motorsports, Edelbrock,Rotax Engines, and Harley Davidson. We come as original equipment on the 2000 Ford Mustang Cobra-R. We even made the filters used in the Apache helicopters used in Desert Storm and the US Marine Corps new Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft. If they work in these conditions they will work for you.
This leads me to the Ford post. The dealership may not void thewarranty per Federal laws. The Moss-Magnuson Warranty Act of the Fair Trade Commission states that if a part is not covered under warranty, the consumer may use any brand they choose to. Air filters are not covered under the warranty so you are free to use any brand you choose. The real clincher is the fact that Ford carries and sells a line of our filters at the dealerships. We make the filters for Ford Motorsports and they even took out a 1 page "ad" in our catalog. In fact, we are original equipment on the 2000 Mustang Cobra-R. I find it highly unlikely Ford would endorse a product that causes problems with their vehicles. In fact, Honda and Toyota
only recommend K&N filters when using aftermarket high flow filters as K&N is the only brand of filter the oil does NOT come off of.
You may post any or all of this if you like, in fact, it would be
appreciated. I would be interested in seeing the responses. Bottom line, the internet is opinions not facts. Don't take all you read as accurate.
Thanks for writing, Rick
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Our filters are tested by an outside, independent laboratory. They have been proven to stop at least 99% of particles on a SAE dust test. This test uses particles in the 0 - 5 micron range and goes up to 20 microns.For comparison, a paper filter also stops 99% on the same test and the OEM minimum standard is 96%. Foam is generally the worst media with a typical efficiency rating of 75 - 85%. To get higher ratings, the foam must be more dense and therefore way more restrictive.
The "tack" characteristic of a K&N allows for increase filtration without loss of flow as well.The testing procedure used is SAE J-726 using ISO Coarse Test Dust. This test is the standard of the air filter industry. The test procedure consists of flowing air through the filter at a constant rate (airflow rate is determined by the application) while feeding test dust into the air stream at a rate of 1 gram per cubic meter of air.As the filter loads with dust the pressure drop across the filter is increased to maintain the prescribed airflow rate. The test is continued until the pressure drop increases 10" H2O above the initial restriction of
the clean element (in this case .78" to 10.78" H2O). At this point the test is terminated. The dirty filter element is then weighed. This weight is compared to the clean element weight to determine the total Dust Capacity. The amount of dust retained by the filter is divided by the total amount of dust fed during the test to determine the Cumulative Efficiency.
The K&N filter achieved the following results:
Dust Capacity: 305 grams
Cumulative Efficiency: 99.05 %
We got started over 30 years ago making filters for motorcycles and off road racers. The filters did so well that these guys wanted them for their cars and trucks. We started making filters for these applications and here we are today. If they did not work, we would not still be here and growing
every year.
We now make filters for Chrysler/Mopar, Ford Motorsports, Edelbrock,Rotax Engines, and Harley Davidson. We come as original equipment on the 2000 Ford Mustang Cobra-R. We even made the filters used in the Apache helicopters used in Desert Storm and the US Marine Corps new Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft. If they work in these conditions they will work for you.
This leads me to the Ford post. The dealership may not void thewarranty per Federal laws. The Moss-Magnuson Warranty Act of the Fair Trade Commission states that if a part is not covered under warranty, the consumer may use any brand they choose to. Air filters are not covered under the warranty so you are free to use any brand you choose. The real clincher is the fact that Ford carries and sells a line of our filters at the dealerships. We make the filters for Ford Motorsports and they even took out a 1 page "ad" in our catalog. In fact, we are original equipment on the 2000 Mustang Cobra-R. I find it highly unlikely Ford would endorse a product that causes problems with their vehicles. In fact, Honda and Toyota
only recommend K&N filters when using aftermarket high flow filters as K&N is the only brand of filter the oil does NOT come off of.
You may post any or all of this if you like, in fact, it would be
appreciated. I would be interested in seeing the responses. Bottom line, the internet is opinions not facts. Don't take all you read as accurate.
Thanks for writing, Rick
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This is the second car I've used a K&N. No problems.
I have 105000 miles on my ford thumderbird. K&N cone on since 16K.
I don't think it was a problem with the filter, It is amazing the ford lasted that long. Actually its running good!
I have 105000 miles on my ford thumderbird. K&N cone on since 16K.
I don't think it was a problem with the filter, It is amazing the ford lasted that long. Actually its running good!
you can bet there is a k&n on the end of this
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