It was pretty much an ideal day at the track (Kansas City, 1100' above sea level). The temp was 55-60 degrees, low humidity (40-50%), and good pressure (30.00). It was opening day and the track was a bit slick, but this track isn't known for it's traction. My only gripe (excuse) is having to wait 40 minutes between runs which caused my intake manifold to be baking hot on every run.

Last week I redynoed my Max and realized a pretty substanial gain in hp and tq (9fwhp and 10fwtq) after adding a UDP and different y-pipe (Warpspeed non-mandrel). I was hoping for a best ET or trapspeed. I got 5 runs in today and let's just say I should have been bracket racing. Here's the first four runs:

Run #1 14.75@96.21mph with a 2.32 60'
Run #2 14.78@96.32mph with a 2.30 60'
Run #3 14.79@95.73mph with a 2.29 60'
Run #4 14.80@96.13mph with a 2.29 60'

Consistent? My 60's are aweful. I couldn't find the fine line between spin and bog. Look at those trap speeds!!!! I've never come remotely close to trapping out that high. My car is nearly 1.5mph faster thru the 1/4mile now. Traction was clearly the problem. I decided to do one more run. While I'm sitting in line, a young punk walks by and say "Maximas suck" as passed my car and went to hang out with his friends and their black GS400 (intake only) that didn't run better than a 14.8@95mph. I just shook my head and knew I had to show them what my car was capable off.

Run #5 14.69@96.49mph with a 2.29 60' <--new best ET/trapspeed

I was pumped to say the least. With a horrific 60' (spinning thru some of 1st and a big 2nd gear scratch), I'm running 14.6s and trapping out higher than most other NA modded Maximas out. Just for fun, my ET and trapspeed corrected for altitude is a 14.50@98mph Bring on those 2K2 Maximas I'll walk emmm j/k

All in all, it was a good time. We had 4 Maximas running today. Everyone was running really well. I forgot everyone's "handle", but these are thier bests and type of mods:

Dale 98 SE 5 speed, bonestock with 17" wheels, 15.8@89mph w/2.6 60'
Trevor 95 SE 5 speed, intake and muffler, 15.3@92mph w/2.4 60'
Bryan 97 SE 5 speed, intake, y-pipe, catback, 15.3@91mph w/2.4 60'

In everyone's defense, I'm the only one that really has any experience with this track. Dale and Trevor had never raced their cars before so technically these were thier "baselines" and Bryan was racing on a blown front strut. I also learned that Byran was shifting WAY to early. I'm certain we can get his car into the 14s next time.

Highlights of the day was me racing a modified WRX and a Jetta 1.8T. The WRX had 19s, a different turbo, downpipe, and catback. He ran a 14.12@97 to my 14.75@96mph. Ummmm...talk about a "holeshot". The 1.8T Jetta had a chip, intake, and downpipe. I ran a 14.78@96mph to his 15.5@92mph. In the turbo cars defense, waiting in line for 40 minutes with a turbo is no good. Heatsoak is a biatch with those cars. I saw the WRX run a 13.8 later on. I'd imagine with lighter rims, he'd be in the lower 13s.


Dave

 

Congrats on the times. I can't believe than WRX was still in the 14s. Maybe the 19"s
-Cyrus

 

Thanks. I think it was definately the 19s that was killing the WRX. The guy is part owner in probably the most well known performance/wheel shop in the KS/MO area. He gets stuff for cheap. If I was him, I would have gone with Volks. I'd bet those 19s he had must have weighed 55lbs+. 19s look rediculous on a WRX.


Dave

 

You'd think a guy who owns a speed shop would atleast have a seperate set of rims for the track! 19"s aren't smart unless they're really light (which is really rare). I can imagine 19"s must look crazy, 17"s look good on that car.
-Cyrus

 

[sarcastic]I love it when people talk sh!it about other people's cars and can't back it up[/sarcastic] Good job Dave!!!

 

Congrats Dave, very good times I think I am going to have to get another UDP now!

 

I think you have the most modded 2k2. UDP should boost your power a bit but even flatten out your curves that much more. Most people only look for actual peak gains of the UDP. Most dynos I have seen have raised and flattened curves. I also hope you don't have to wait a month for your greddy!

 

nice run's you must be thrilled that you are improving. let's get down to the 13s all motor! by the way, what rpms do you launch at? i find that i'm very consistent with low rpm launches. the maxima has a lot of torque. it's easy to overwhelm the wheels with high rpm launches. although, i must admit some people run very fast with higher rpm launches. it can be done both ways though. remember to lower your tire pressures considerately.

 

you need to get those 60fts down...

 

good job Dave!

I was soo trying to make it there Today but got a cold

well I'll be there next weekend to try and improve my best too.
I haven't gotten any new mods but now I have 10K miles, synthetic oil, and got rid of my 45lb axel back exhaust (will run no exhaust)

will you guys be there again?

also did you see any Celicas there today?

 

nice going, keep up the good work and you'll be down in the low 14s soon eunf.

 

Thanks guys. Yep, my 60 foots weren't too good today. I would get a little spin and then I'd bog a bit, then I'd spin into 2nd. I usually launch at around 4000rpms with a slight clutch slip. I'm usually coming off the line with the rpms around 3000-3500rpms. Today I got caught below 3000rpms which induces quite a bit of bog. I have no doubt I can improve my 60 foot at a couple other tracks I plan on going to this spring.


Kitbar-
I plan on being at KCIR next weekend. There was only one Celica there and it was just a silver GT with an intake and exhaust. I believe he was running in the 16s.



Dave

 

Dave just come down to houston and run at HRP (houston raceway park). When I've been there traction wasn't much of a problem and this is one of the fastest tracks in the US. Here you probably would have ran a 14.3-14.6 @ 96-98mph. Man those 96mph trapspeeds are like . 2 words Drag Radials then my friend low 14s will be yours.

 

3 words... 60 foot times... drag radials not needed hehe. Glad you improved though

 

I wish I was there, other than the 40 minute waits. I think that I am going to order myself a helmet so that I won't have to borrow anymore , besides I need to change my oil too to get some fresh stuff in there. Is Bryon still using the "truck" shifter or did he finally get a STS? Maybe I will get out next weekend if I get a helmet. Where did you get yours from Dave if you don't mind m asking?

 

Dave, I forgot to ask you

was there any change in KCIR (track surface, etc)?


PS: Yah I saw that silver gt guy last time. He told me he his best was a 15.1 or something
I think he was lying

 

Tell me about it! DeSoto (in Bradenton, FL) is the same way. Unless there is a big event, the track is never sticky. Cheapskates!

Congrats on the new best!

 

Absolutely no change in the track surface. It was actually the worse I've seen it in a while. They did repair the rut in the left lane that would force you to redlight because you'd fall into he rut and trigger the timer. Once the court ruling comes out in mid-March on whether or not the track can stay open, then the track gonna get resurfaced. They are going to put down a 330ft launch pad, surface the asphalt, and redo the return roads. I'd say it will take about 1 week to accomplish and another week for the material to cure. After that, we should finally have good local track.

As for the silver GT, I think he was yanking your chain. Any guy that has a Toyota emblem on the center console, poorly painted engine shroud, and a "Ninja" wing is most likely not gonna run a 15.1 in Celica GT, especially at our track. He'd light'em up for quite a while off the line. Maybe he did get a 15.XX, but I didn't see it.

The quickest important was a red later 80s Civic hatch hitting 13.1-13.3.


Dave

 

I bought my helmet at a motorcycle shop in Grandview, MO. It was $40 for the dorky open face helmet.

Bryon was still using his stock shifter and shifting way too early I learned. He was shifting at 6000 on the 1-2, 5800 on the 2-3 and 3-4. He needs to be shifting at 6500, 6200, and 6000. I'm certain I can get him into the 14s and adding some mph by simply upping his shifts.


Dave

 

Why do you need a helmet at KCIR?

Is the track that bad?

 

dave get some drag radials, i can't believe you can't get at least on run with a 2.1x short time. nice time BTW.

 

Hey Dave whats up? it was nice finally getting to meet u guys yesterday. it was my first time out there and it was pretty fun. i was kinda disappointed in my runs though. all of my reaction times were below .858 (my worst) (.515 was my best) but my 60fts were terrible. i had one 2.36 and it would have been a good run if i didn't miss my friggin' 2-3 shift! my best run out of 5 was a
15.26 at 92.6 mph my RT was .520 and my 60ft was 2.4. this run was when i finally took your advice and launched at about 3k. i think if i continue to do that and i can get my 60fts down that i can get a better time. if you're going out there again next sunday then i might join you. later!

Trevor

 

Dave doesn't have a 2002, he has a 1996 SE.

 

Glad to hear everyone ran some good times!

I was going to try and make it out, but I stayed up way too late the night before and didn't get out of bed until like 3 in the afternoon, so there wasn't much point in going by then. I should be out there next weekend.

 

Congrats Dave!

When are you gonna be down in New Orleans again? I would like ya to give me some pointers...

 

Hey man...I've seen that hatch around, up there behind Hooters. He went out to the street racing one night and repeadedly tore a new a$$ in a brand new modded Integra type R....it was impressive. I think the kid goes to high school, if I remember right. Do you ever go out to the street races? I know I've met up with Trevor and Bryan at Hooters, but we haven't gone with the racers as a group ever.

Trevor, man, you didn't tell me you were goin out to the track, I might have come home for a weekend. I'll be there sometime this season, that's for damn sure, probably after they resurface. No need to go out there and get an even crappier time than the old auto will do naturally, eh?

 

yeah that hatch was pretty fast. my friend talked to him and he said that he only uses the car for dragging. he even cut holes out of the bumper to save weight. it was fast but it was fuggly. i woulda called u austin but it was a last minute thing. we were originally gonna go to the car show but we heard it was gay so we went to kcir instead. next time your in town, we'll have to go up there!

Trevor

 

Nice work.

 

I think I've found out who the guy was that said "Maxima's suck". He apparantly drives a 96 Crown Vic that was running super impressive 16.8s. How did I find this out, I saw his car at the track and I was checking a local street racing website and this guy's sig literally says "Maximas suck!". Too funny.

As for my 60 foots, I really don't think I could ever pull a 2.1 at my track unless I had drag radials. It's just too slick. Every single LT1/LS1/Mustang I've gone up against has gotten a 2.2 60' or worse. The best 60' I've gotten was a 2.23.

The red Civic was all NA. He was running a gutted late 80s/early 90s hatch with a non-VTEC B18 swap. He had cams, intake, exhaust, and some other stuff I'm sure. He was running super tiny slicks and I'd bet his car weighed 1800lbs or so. It's sad to say, but at KCIR, a Civic running low 13s@103mph is considered unGodly fast for a street car. Not many street cars run low 13s or 12s unless it's a hyped up LS1, GN, or older musclecar. What's realy sad is that I was trapping out as high as some of the 99+GTs.....and sometime beating them in ET.


Dave

 

Congrats on the new time Dave.

You really got to do something about those 60fts.

With those trap speeds (with good 60fts of course) you should be about a 14.4-14.3 car. When i was running consistent 96-97mph trap speeds, i was always in the range of 14.4-14.3 times.

 

what website was it? what would u race with a 16.8 second car.....New beetles?

 

the site is http://www.kcsr.org, the guy that Dave is talking about goes by cruisinltd, I think, you also have to sign up to be able to view anything(so that no extra eyes get in as easy)

I will definately have to make it next weekend, looks like we could start a Drag group together along with our maxima group.

Was the motorcycle shop you got the helmet at Freedom Cycles by chance? I know exactly where it is if so.

 

It turns out the guy that talked trash was a Yugo driver His hang-up with Maximas is because GuidoSST has ruffled some feathers with the guys KCSR.org about the performance of his Maxima. I guess Guido told Luke (Yugo guy) and some other guys that he ran a 15.1 bonestock in his GLE, but he never showed anyone timeslips. Luke said he had no idea my car was that fast and he apologized. I don't know if Guido has run a 15.1 or not, but that sounds extremely quick for a stock auto running at the Kansas tracks. Hopefully Guido will run this weekend so he can answer the question of whether or not his car is really that quick or not.

Yes, Freedom Cycle for the helmet.


Dae

 

I think i will have to go and check that out on Saturday to see if they still have any helmets at that price.

 

hey, let me know if you guys are goin' out again sunday. if so, then i'll try to join! i really want to hit 15.1 and i think i can if i can get my launches down. hopefully this rain lets hope by then. later guys!

Trevor

 

Dale 98 SE 5 speed, bonestock with 17" wheels, 15.8@89mph w/2.6 60'
Trevor 95 SE 5 speed, intake and muffler, 15.3@92mph w/2.4 60'
Bryan 97 SE 5 speed, intake, y-pipe, catback, 15.3@91mph w/2.4 60'

In everyone's defense, I'm the only one that really has any experience with this track. Dale and Trevor had never raced their cars before so technically these were thier "baselines" and Bryan was racing on a blown front strut. I also learned that Byran was shifting WAY to early. I'm certain we can get his car into the 14s next time.


Well somebody had to be the slowest..
I had a great time with you guys(Dave, Bryan, Trevor) at the track, let me know when you are planning on doing that again.
Dave I need to talk to you about shift points as well, I am not used to a stock muffler so I kept hearing the GSR in the other lane, I think I was a little early, time for a copycat shift light.

til later,
Dale

 

Actually, you are not the slowest, right now I am the slowest till I get back to the track. When I first ran I got a 16.xx due to a horrible 60'.

i think we are trying to get a group together for this Sunday as well, or I hope at least.

Dale-Get an intake and you will be able to hear your engine better instead of fart can exhaust.

hopefully if we get together this weekend as well I will get to meet the rest of you guys that are "new" to the group.

 

Great times Dave B! I did not do any better with my 2k2 w/intake!

 

grrrrr, my last run was a 15.26@93mph! get it right! hehe j/k. it was cool finally meeting some of u guys. bad news though, i might not make it out to the track sunday . i have a family picnic that i promised my grandma i'd be at (stop laughing!)

Trevor

 

Ok, well if the weather holds to what the Weather channel site says it is going to be 60's and partly cloudy on Sunday, so it looks like there is still a chance that we will be able to go to the track. And since there won't be any dynoing this weekend, it makes it even better for more time to run at the track.

Forecast