I just bought my 2k2 Majestic Blue w/ Navi (auto ) and my first change is going to be tint, after that, i want an intake. I have researched slightly both the place racing CAI and the frankencar intake, and i wanted to know which one gives more HP and is a better buy, according to the members of the org.

 

If your about buying an auto, why did you? I suggest you trade it in ASAP for a 6spd or something.

Intake...it all depends if your willing to drill a hole into your fenderwell. A Franken intake is a hybrid. It's a popcharger with the upper PR tubing so you dont have to drill. The CAI resonates and sits in the fenderwell, requiring drilling. Both will provide good gains, most people are biased to the CAI I think, but either way you'll like it.

If your auto I would suggest the CAI becuase the hybrid will such in the engine hot air at idle so you might get lagged off the line.

 

Your asphalt deal is new to me...and if you think it's heat can compare to engine heat, your wrong. The engine gets MUCH hotter than pavement, and The CAI filter isn't as close to the pavement as the POP is to the engine.

Bottom line is that a cold air intake does just that, brings cold air into the engine. How cold that air is, is a different story.

And like I said above, I support Steve's business. Both intakes will please you.

 

I have a 2k2 auto and the frankencar intake. Take a look at my home page to get a good idea of what everything looks like. I don't have experience with others but the frankencar gets my vote all the way.

 

What intake is that from?

 

Hey Hogan, I watched & listened to your movie, WTF.. what's under that hood man ? your engine is screeming like mad, I may be wrong but sounds like a rebuild engine right ???

I'd be curious to see your number...

Cheers

AA

 

LOL last time you had that little intake. Im saying you did that custom? Also, at the track there was a Pathfinder runnin 18s. You shoulda showed him who's boss

 

I don't know about everyone else (and I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong) but the difference in gains between the two will probably be so insignificant you'll never even notice it by itself. Now, if you plan on modding the you-know-what out of your engine and need EVERY little bit of power from wherever you can get it, then I think it's debateable. I would just choose one that best fits your needs. Myself, I ordered the FC (haven't got it yet) because I don't want to cut a hole in my car & the sound at WOT means a lot to me. I've heard the FC is more impressive in this category.

Just my .02. Good luck.

Tony

 

thanks guys, i appreciate the support. the biggest problem i see with the PR and the reason i designed this is because the tube for the CAI is so long that it restricts the high end of the esp the newere ones with variable intakes. no one has complained of the usual lag with a pop in an auto when they installed mine, one customer even did a fluid dynamics model on it. if you want it i'll email it you.

-steve

 

Jeez i need some money.
Roger

 

Who are you, some pi$$ed off Honda Coffee can Racer who pulled up to a Maxx with 4 people in it , full interior and Navigation . Let me take a guess. You flicked on your strobe lights, your LED nozzles, and peeled on another " TYPE R " sticker right before the light turned green. Next, your sack of crap honda couldn't even get out of first fast enough with your SHOPPING CART wing, when the FULLY LOADED Maxima with 4 people in it totally left you sniffing a Bridgestone-asphalt cocktail ??? Now you come here and blast a fellow member. How about this. I strap my factory plastic housing back on and I race you, Oh, you can take your entire interior out too . I would race you for pink slips, but my Garage wouldnt look good with RICE in it !

 

Ouch that's a BURN kloogy put him in his place. Here's what you can do it's the same thing I did first get PRCAI then do the install cut the hole and so on then put everything back together but only use the top piece of the PRCAI with the MAF and adapter and filter and if you want the CAI just put the other piece on. Place racing can be used as a short ram and a cold air intake. Snoop don't we don't like crybabies. And if you want pics I will have them soon.

 

Whats more embarrasing than popping your hood and seeing 4 CYLINDERS !!!

 

hasn't anyone noticed that PR doesn't have a CAI for the 2k2 yet? so this whole discussion is moot.

to the guy who doesn't know jack s*h*i*t... go get a life dude. have you seen the dyno's? have you seen the actual product itself? have you even done your research? do you even know what the heck you're talking about?

 

learn English or go to a country that speaks that language

 

The only embarassment to the Maxima owners out there is your sorry ***. Keep up the good work Steve.

 

Yo Hogan, can you give me the writeup?

 

Before talkin **** about Hondas, you might want to check this post from Driven EF9 out...
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My fastest run -
60' - 1.964
330 - 5.802
1/8 - 9.109@78.982mph
1000 - 11.894
1/4 - 14.076@99.982mph


I have a 1990 Honda CRX HF.
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Oh yeah, the thread this came from was about him (in his Honda) beatin a Max (Adman).

 

thanks guy snoop for some reason likes to harass me where ever i go. i'm still convinced he hasn't even seen a picture of my intake. i'm nto gonna say anything more about him because i will go off. once again thanks guys who are helping the little guy, our time will come soon, once we get some more tools and man will it be great for all of us.

-steve

 

can you do me a favor, just look at my website. www.frankencar.com it's almost the same thing as a PR CAI minus the restrictive end piece that you have to punch a big hole in your fender to install.

-steve

 

it's spelled HONDUH. and the only thing a PR CAI would be good for is a could cut it in half and make two frankenram sections out of it. as soon as you have dynoes showing that is outperforms "n e thing" i will listen to more then a word that you say. i still dont understand the hostility you have, do you work for PR or something.

-steve

 

I do like the idea of not having to punch a hole in my brand new $30k car, but I do not understand how you can say your intake is almost the same thing as the PR CAI. I mean, the part that you are missing is what makes a CAI a CAI. It's what gets you the cold air from outisde the engine bay. As opposed to the hot air from inside the engine bay. According to your logic, I should just get a POP Charger, cuz it's basically the same thing as your intake, just with out the extension. But, if I'm just going to get a POP Charger, then I should just stick with my stock intake. Since they're basically the same thing. I mean they both suck in air.....right?

 

i was using it for comparision for snoop, he makes it sound like the frankencar is TOTALLY different from a CAI and that with one piece it couldn't be one, that's all. i'm sorry if i was misunderstood. he just makes it sound like i made an intake out of old ragu cans, when it's 75% of a CAI, minus the last piece, yes that is the piece that makes it a CAI, you understand what i mean?

 

Ok, thank you very much for clearing that up. What you just said makes very good sense now.

 

thanks man

 

Any idea when stages 3 and 4 will be done?

 

no definete on stage 4, but stage 3 we are working on it now.

 

Good to hear.

 

I have the PRCAI and I so far only have the top piece on I have the hole cut but since winter here I just left it as a short ram, but I have the option to use the cold air part. I bought it because the company is been around awhile for and I don't know how long frankencar has been around if new and all. And there dyno's prove added horsepower and that's good.

 

I havent bought an intake yet but i really think Im gonna go w/ the pr cai with the monster filter. ive seen the dynos showing it outperforms pop and even no intake at all. so basically what im saying is Ill by whichever intake will give the most power and honestly it seems yours should perform identically to the pop, maybe a little better. Is there any dynos I can refer to to make an intelligent decision. Thanks for your help. ps., good luck with your buisness.

 

emax dynoed to a straight stillen intake and got 3-5 more hp throughtout the rev range. email me if you want and i will send youi a fluid dynamics model comparing pops, my intakes and CAIs.

-steve

 

the hole isn't that big.

i think it's going to be hard to get unbiased opinions from this forum. here's my experience with the whole intake thing. i had the prcai, and i did both the short ram version, and then also the full cai. honestly, i couldn't tell the difference. and when i went back to the stock intake i couldn't feel a big difference either. so i'll probably stay stock or go with the OSCAI. that's just my opinion.

 

I would like to see a dyno of one of these Frankencar or similar intakes done with the hood closed. I would assume that all of the dyno results from these are with the hood open. I know people show dyno gains, but I would wonder if they would with the hood closed, compared to the stock or OSCAI. Having the hood closed would have the intake sucking in hot engine air, not cool air.

To make the comparison fair, they could still use the big fans blowing on the front of the car to simulate the moving air.

--Ray Nist

 

Not to side or anything but i think the HP gains are also based on a base run of stock intakes with the hood open. So in a way it is a good comparison at the least.

I'm not so sure about the hood being closed during a dyno run though. Even with the fan upfront it won't supply as much air inside the engine bay as, say, if you were running on the roads at 50mph.

If anything, having the hood closed during a dyno run should help get more specific numbers for those who get an intake and still have their cars as daily drivers (e.g. stop and go traffic where from a stop your engine bay is gathering nothing but hot air).

 

Even if the hood is open, the stock intake system and the oscai pull outside air into the engine so having the hood open is not an issue.

 

Actually, having the hood open is an issue - to an extent. The heat emanating from the engine doesn't build up in the bay given there's open air above and around it.

The stock intake is sort of like a hybrid intake wherein it breathes air from inside and outside the bay (at least from what i gathered).

Same reason why if you dyno run on open and closed hoods back-back on a stock intake you get slightly better numbers with the hood open.

 

http://www.marchperformance.com/pg32.html

Take a look at this page and go down to the bottom where they show the ram air/cold air package for a 87-93 Mustang GT. I wonder why no one has come up with somthing similar. It seem like it would not be hard to do.

FYI, I installed a similar system on my SC'd 89 GT and saw a reduction in et of almost 0.2 and 1 mph gain in the quarter. I think it cost around $150 with a 9" cone filter.

--Ray

 

Most OSCAI's i've seen made by the people at the Org has that effect on it. I think Frankencar's Stage 4 also has a similar effect to it.

 

I just looked on frankencar.com and see a pic of stage 3 that has the large diameter aluminum tubing going towards it which is similar.

dmbmaxima88, do you plan on making some type of shroud around the cone filter that the tubing will connect to? Also, where are you picking up the air for the large diameter tubing? Is there a scoop?

Thanks
Ray

 

is it possible to install the monsterflow air filter onto the Frankencar intake?