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Old May 2, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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Opinions please on custom made side skirts and rear valances!

Hi:

I just wanted to see what everyone thinks! You can check the pics at www.ionicdynamics.com in the Gallery section.

Please post what other products you wold like for the Maxima. As soon as we finish the 4th gen we are going to start working on the 5th gen.

Thanks!
Old May 2, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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I likes it.

Old May 2, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Pics suck, but from what I can see it looks pretty good.
Old May 2, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
Pics suck, but from what I can see it looks pretty good.
Sorry, its my fault. Now I know what the $600 Mavica is REALLY worth....S-H-I-T! I tried every freaking setting I could think of, and nothing could help the CHEESY-*** picture quality. MY BAD! I hope this doesnt slow sales....sorry ionicmax.

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More pix can be found here http://mozy.cx/maxima/idkit/
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where does the exhaust pipe go!! I didnt see a cut out for it overall looks arite

kinda make the rear of the car look fat maybe have it kinda be slanted upwards like uhhmmm
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Old May 2, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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where does the exhaust pipe go!! I didnt see a cut out for it overall looks arite

kinda make the rear of the car look fat maybe have it kinda be slanted upwards like uhhmmm
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the exhaust goes down right behind the rear-lip. it points down so all you see is a little silver peeper. its very unobtrusive and un-noticeable. you can see pix of it on my site.
Old May 2, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that you can still see where the stock exhaust came out. Other than that it looks pretty good. I like the sideskirts the best!
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cool cool I think having a cutout would be nice and my.. uhmm ghetoo graphics didnt come out hahaha uhm I think the rear skirt should come up a bit so the rear bumper doesnt look too fat... kinda like how the Stillen skirts end... but have a continuous skirt ... i think you know what i mean

but Stan! that does look sweet congrats!
Old May 2, 2002 | 05:33 PM
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yeah I like the pics so much I'm going to get this kit....
Old May 2, 2002 | 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by metallic97gxe
yeah I like the pics so much I'm going to get this kit....
Congrats! I know you will enjoy it, and you'll win even more First Places with that kit!!



To everyone else:

You can order the rear piece with a cutout for any size of muffler you want. On www.ionicdynamics.com in the gallery you can see Ionicmax with the first kit ever made, he has the cutout in the back.
I special ordered my kit with no cutout for the muffler, thats why it looks weird, cause I'm weird.
Old May 2, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Thanks for all the comments!

I just included one picture of the rear valance with the exhaust hole in the gallery section.

Carnal_c30.- I get the idea on what you want to say. We tried many configurations, and that was the only one that would allow us to have a one piece rear valance and accommodate the exhaust hole. The new corner piece that we just came out with is almost two inches shorter than the previous rear valance, and they are angled in a more aggressive manner

About the pics, I really appreciate what Mozy did for me, taking his time to take the pics and post them up so everyone could see, thanks Mozy

Metallic97gxe.- Shot me an e-mail at ionico@hotmail.com to figure out the shipping, if you are interested.

Come on guys! Please post and what you think about the kit! And also give me ideas on what other products you would like.

Regards!
Old May 3, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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How would shops be able to lift the car? I cant clear ramps and I dont see how they would have access to the pinch welds with the skirts
Old May 3, 2002 | 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by Nismo
How would shops be able to lift the car? I cant clear ramps and I dont see how they would have access to the pinch welds with the skirts
There are several ways to lift the car. I'm not an expert but I have lifted the rear end of my max up from the cross beam. For the front you just have to find a solid part of the frame. It's not that hard, and if you don't want to have your car lifted you can always go to a shop that has a pit.
Old May 3, 2002 | 03:12 AM
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Looks great! Very clean, love those side skirts

I have a few suggestions for future products...

#1 HIRE MAXIMAZERO TO DESIGN YOUR KITS!!! You will be the richest man on the .org that guy KNOWS what a car should look like!

#2 5th gen (2k2!!!) front lip please hehe

#3 Is polyurethane possible?

#4 maybe a R34 kit? (clean as possible)


Great work guys
Old May 3, 2002 | 03:39 AM
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kit looks great. back valance will take some creativity due to design for the exhaust.
Old May 3, 2002 | 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Chinkzilla

#1 HIRE MAXIMAZERO TO DESIGN YOUR KITS!!! You will be the richest man on the .org that guy KNOWS what a car should look like!

Great work guys [/B]
I second that!! Every time Zero comes up with a new design, I drool all over my pc...

I think the kit looks really nice! Can't wait to see what you have in store for us 5th gens
Old May 3, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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how does it install

i'm really intrested of getting the skirts and the rear valance. How does it fit on the car?
Old May 3, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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side skirts

I have a 95 with stillen lip, does the side skirts line up well with the Stillen lip? I likes it.
Personally I don't like the rear valance, too bulky... side skirts are nice though. I will have to get me some!

Suggestion: is it possible to make a spoiler like the Stillen Type 2 for cheap? make a wide body kit!! woohoo...
Old May 3, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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Re: side skirts

Originally posted by MikeyMax
I have a 95 with stillen lip, does the side skirts line up well with the Stillen lip? I likes it.
Personally I don't like the rear valance, too bulky... side skirts are nice though. I will have to get me some!

Suggestion: is it possible to make a spoiler like the Stillen Type 2 for cheap? make a wide body kit!! woohoo...
Mamoru: They fit perfectly! Every piece is test fitted before they are shipped out.

MikeyMax: They should line up, they were designed to line up with the 97-99 front lip. Did you see the two piece rear valance? That one is not large.

If anyone is interested in buying please send me an email to ionico@hotmail.com or sales@ionicdynamics.com.

I have been thinking about making a rear spoiler like the stillen type 2, lets see how things go

Thanks!
Old May 3, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Chinkzilla

#3 Is polyurethane possible?
Sure, anything is possible, but would you rather pay $300 for the side skirts and rear to be made out of fiber-glass 3 times as strong and thick as Saronas, or would you rather pay $700 for Polyurethane puices that won't get as much abuse as the stillen lip?

Your choice.
Old May 3, 2002 | 02:15 PM
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sides look good, but I don't like the back - it looks like stuff from the 80s.

for future products I would like to see a new wing that looks like the E36 M3 stock wing.
Old May 5, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by theblue
sides look good, but I don't like the back - it looks like stuff from the 80s.

for future products I would like to see a new wing that looks like the E36 M3 stock wing.
Bump!
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First of all, I want to thank you Ionic for not only making a great looking kit but just for making a kit! It's great to know that developement is still going for the 4th gen. Max., 7 years after it's debut. We have 'spoken' a little over e-mail but since you asked for opinions, I will place them here.

First of all, I have to say that when I purchased my '96 in Feb. of '99 and started my ground effects shopping, I was pretty disapointed. I searched for hours and hours! I found kits most people here don't know about. But nothing was an A+. The Stillen front lip is a near A+, especially the '97/'99 lip. The Stillen sides are pretty decent. They are not too agressive which is good but I think they could stand for just a hair more agressiveness. Now the Stillen rears, this is my biggest complaint. I HATE those two dinky pieces that don't wrap all the way around. Cheese. So this is where I commend you. Although I did find one other company that did this for the '95/'96 Max., the pictures on their site were terrible, the guy was a jerk and he was also unwilling to break up the kit. So I am content enough with my Stillen front and sides, it's your rear I am interested in (oh boy, that didn't sound good, did it?). With that said, here are my wishes for your rear for it to be an A+:

- The sides near the wheel wells are WAY too flared out. It looks out of place. It doesn't even flow with your sides let alone the Stillen sides. I wish it was more subtle and blended better with the Stillen sides.

- I wish it didn't slope up. Although yours slopes up much less than the Stillen rear pieces, I wish it were on the exact same plane as the sides and nose, all the way around.


I really like the no exhaust look. In fact, mine is already tucked away because planned to fill in my exhaust half-circle this summer. I just don't like how on yours you can still see the half-circle. But that's not your fault. It's up to us I guess to fill in the half-circle.



As for your sides, my advice is to make a symmetrical design, not one that transitions. Take the Stillen sides and make them a hair more aggressive.

If you could just make the rear less flared, a little lower in the back and offer it for a '95/'96, I would be stoked.
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I am orderin the whole kit this week.....!!!!

but I'm getting the two-piece rear valance....
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Re: :o)

Geezus make your own kit you picky opinionated SOB




Originally posted by ptatohed
First of all, I want to thank you Ionic for not only making a great looking kit but just for making a kit! It's great to know that developement is still going for the 4th gen. Max., 7 years after it's debut. We have 'spoken' a little over e-mail but since you asked for opinions, I will place them here.

First of all, I have to say that when I purchased my '96 in Feb. of '99 and started my ground effects shopping, I was pretty disapointed. I searched for hours and hours! I found kits most people here don't know about. But nothing was an A+. The Stillen front lip is a near A+, especially the '97/'99 lip. The Stillen sides are pretty decent. They are not too agressive which is good but I think they could stand for just a hair more agressiveness. Now the Stillen rears, this is my biggest complaint. I HATE those two dinky pieces that don't wrap all the way around. Cheese. So this is where I commend you. Although I did find one other company that did this for the '95/'96 Max., the pictures on their site were terrible, the guy was a jerk and he was also unwilling to break up the kit. So I am content enough with my Stillen front and sides, it's your rear I am interested in (oh boy, that didn't sound good, did it?). With that said, here are my wishes for your rear for it to be an A+:

- The sides near the wheel wells are WAY too flared out. It looks out of place. It doesn't even flow with your sides let alone the Stillen sides. I wish it was more subtle and blended better with the Stillen sides.

- I wish it didn't slope up. Although yours slopes up much less than the Stillen rear pieces, I wish it were on the exact same plane as the sides and nose, all the way around.


I really like the no exhaust look. In fact, mine is already tucked away because planned to fill in my exhaust half-circle this summer. I just don't like how on yours you can still see the half-circle. But that's not your fault. It's up to us I guess to fill in the half-circle.



As for your sides, my advice is to make a symmetrical design, not one that transitions. Take the Stillen sides and make them a hair more aggressive.

If you could just make the rear less flared, a little lower in the back and offer it for a '95/'96, I would be stoked.
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Re: :o)

Originally posted by ptatohed
First of all, I want to thank you Ionic for not only making a great looking kit but just for making a kit! It's great to know that developement is still going for the 4th gen. Max., 7 years after it's debut. We have 'spoken' a little over e-mail but since you asked for opinions, I will place them here.

First of all, I have to say that when I purchased my '96 in Feb. of '99 and started my ground effects shopping, I was pretty disapointed. I searched for hours and hours! I found kits most people here don't know about. But nothing was an A+. The Stillen front lip is a near A+, especially the '97/'99 lip. The Stillen sides are pretty decent. They are not too agressive which is good but I think they could stand for just a hair more agressiveness. Now the Stillen rears, this is my biggest complaint. I HATE those two dinky pieces that don't wrap all the way around. Cheese. So this is where I commend you. Although I did find one other company that did this for the '95/'96 Max., the pictures on their site were terrible, the guy was a jerk and he was also unwilling to break up the kit. So I am content enough with my Stillen front and sides, it's your rear I am interested in (oh boy, that didn't sound good, did it?). With that said, here are my wishes for your rear for it to be an A+:

- The sides near the wheel wells are WAY too flared out. It looks out of place. It doesn't even flow with your sides let alone the Stillen sides. I wish it was more subtle and blended better with the Stillen sides.

- I wish it didn't slope up. Although yours slopes up much less than the Stillen rear pieces, I wish it were on the exact same plane as the sides and nose, all the way around.


I really like the no exhaust look. In fact, mine is already tucked away because planned to fill in my exhaust half-circle this summer. I just don't like how on yours you can still see the half-circle. But that's not your fault. It's up to us I guess to fill in the half-circle.



As for your sides, my advice is to make a symmetrical design, not one that transitions. Take the Stillen sides and make them a hair more aggressive.

If you could just make the rear less flared, a little lower in the back and offer it for a '95/'96, I would be stoked.
Wow, you sure know what you want but hey, you ARE the consumer...


Well, I cant speak for Jose (Ionicmax) but I have been with him from basically day one (Note: Jose, if you want me to stop answering any of these posts, tell me, k?).

Making the rear one piece not sloped up (straight and matching the side skirts) would prove disastrous, especially if you are lowered.
I am on stock SE suspension and the rear piece (being sloped upwards) is already pretty darn low. Making the rear piece any smaller would be very hard because that means redesigning the side skirts to make them slightly smaller and possibly sacrifing the front-lip matchability (is that a word?).

I think ionicmax already told this to someone, he tried to make the rear smaller but could not because that would mean it would not be attachable to the rear like the current rear piece (Jose, please smack some sense into this paragraph).

But there is still a chance....Jose has the two-piece rear right now and it seems there MIGHT be a way to make that a very small one-piece. I dont know...

Welp, hope that helps somehow.
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Re: Re: :o)

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Geezus make your own kit you picky opinionated SOB






Opininated. Hmmm. The name of the thread is "Opinions please on..." but I'm an SOB for actually answering his request. Hmm, you're a real bright one.
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Originally posted by mozy


Wow, you sure know what you want but hey, you ARE the consumer...


Well, I cant speak for Jose (Ionicmax) but I have been with him from basically da

...

be a way to make that a very small one-piece. I dont know...

Welp, hope that helps somehow.

Thanks Mozy. You think a level rear would be too low? I was thinking it wouldn't be a problem since my nose is already so darn low and hits stuff anyway, what's the difference if the rear is low/level with the rest of the car? I don't know. It has just been a dream of mine since I bought this car. Level ground effects all around But this is by far the closest rear to an A+ that I have seen. I haven't spoken with Jose about a level rear but I have spoken to him about having the flare reduced. He said he could do it so I think I'm going that road. You're right, he's a great guy. (And oddly enough he doesn't call you names like SOB when you express what you want, go figure). Thanks again.
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Hey, np.

This is just my opinion and insight but yes the level rear will be too low. And since the rear is made from fiberglass it will be a vary scary sight when you see what happenes to it if you "scratch" it like you do the stillen lip . The fiberglass wont take as much abuse as the stillen kit might, so thats the biggest factor here. Jose already said that making the kit out of urethane is out of the question.
I'm not sure but I dont think Jose will want to make the rear any more level, it will take more time (and money) to redo the mold, and it would just not be a good idea business wise to make something thats so low (on an unlowered car mind you) any lower. Its a fun thought and good idea, but I really dont see it happening, sorry.

Yeah, Jose is a great guy. Our relationship has gone from consumer->seller to friend->friend I'm so excited about him making new things for our cars too! He has LOTS of stuff planned
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THIS IS FOR "ladymax20"

I can answer most if not all of these questions:

Originally posted by ladymax20
Want to laugh? this is what I just tortured ionico@hotmail with....read on

"Hi, I am LadyMax20 from max.org,
In all respect, your site is a bit confusing because most links don't work. Just a few questions please.

#1-What is it made out of? and is it flexible/durable?


1 - Fiberglass, very thick fiberglass. Fiberglass is not very flexible, not as flexible as polyurethane at all. The sideskirts and rear will not get very much action, not as much as the lip. But if you lower the car, that is different.

#2-What condition is it in when a customer receives it? (ready to be installed and painted/ needs to be sanded etc.)
3 - When it is shipped, it is primered, as in, it is just molded and sanded down and sprayed with a light layer of primer. It is ready to be painted by your local body shop. Not for amateur painting. But you can try if you want, no one is stopping you.

#3-How does it attach to the car? bolts/adhesive tape?
3 - It attaches to the car any way you want, depends on your shop. Mine was done with all bolts. Bolted onto the bottom of bumper and under side rockers.


#4-How many different models are you offering? I understood there was only one style, but others tell me different.
Models of what? Side skirts? One model of side skirts. Rears pieces? 2 different models CURRENTLY, one model is a full wraparound attached to the rear bumper. The other model is two pieces, almost like the stillen rear, but made to match the side skirts.

#5- Do you have a warrantee? If so what are the specifications and length of time?
Note: I am not the operator of Ionic Dynamics and have no idea...but here's a guess: If you lower your car, hit a speed bump and crack your side skirts, you're S.O.L (aka screwed). Its your fault, no warantee.

If the pieces come shipped to you BROKEN in the box, Jose will be
more than happy to replace them with new pieces, its not your fault.

Just like any warantee, if its the company's fault, its replaced. If its your fault, its not. Get it?

#6-How can a customer contact you besides email? 1-800 or cell?
You can PM him here on maxima.org, his username is "ionicmax" with no quotes. I dont think he has an 1-800 number yet, but he might give you his home number if you ask nice enough.

#7-Where are you located?
Ionic Dynamics is located in Southern California.


#8-Do you make a front lip? If not who do you recommend?
No. The kit is designed to be matched up to the Stillen front lip. It's a very high quality front lip, made out of flexible urethane. That is why Ionic Dynamics decided to make only the side skirts and rear pieces.

#9-How do you ship? Tracking number?
He ships to a business, any business, like a body shop or a package receiving company (they are out there, beleive me). Tracking number is provided ofcourse.

#10-Why is there no hole for the exhaust? Is it the customer responsiblity to cut one out?
It depends on if you want a hole or not, you decide. He can even make a custom sized hole for you or provide you with the standard size. I (check my signature picture) dicided to get no hole. But on www.ionicdynamics.com there is a picture of the piece with a hole.

#11-How Long have you been in bussiness? Making kits that is.
About 3+ months now. This is a very young but up and coming company. Not a dot-com business ready to crash.

#12-Last but not least. Where did you come up w/that design? (okay don't reveal it) Do you make it yourself?
That I can't answer because like I said I can't speak for Jose (ionicmax, ionicdynamics.com). But from what I gathered, he went to one of his good friends, a designer.

Please realize that after you explain all the answers, I will post it on Max.org so you will never have to endure this again.You can be releived to know that after all this I will be ready to buy. Yes, Very serious.

Thanx, LadyMax20"
Hope this helps.
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Warrantee?
If the pieces come shipped to you BROKEN in the box, Jose will be
more than happy to replace them with new pieces, its not your fault.

Just like any warrantee, if its the company's fault, its replaced. If its your fault, its not. Get it?[/B]

Wow thanks Mozy!! Did she also e-mail that to you? I just finished answering it and it took me about 30 minutes to complete it.

I think you even answered some questions better than I did Like that one!

And yes you are my friend! You were the first one to post on the very first thread and you have been with me ever since. I really appreciate what you have done!

ptatohed: Thanks for your opinion! The problem about the rear end is that the wheels are a little farther in than in the front and that increases the angle in which the rear of the car meets the pavement when you are driving down a slope. That is the reason you can't have such a lever rear end Thanks for your props!

Keep them ideas coming guys!
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Re: Opinions please on custom made side skirts and rear valances!

Originally posted by ionicmax
Hi:

I just wanted to see what everyone thinks! You can check the pics at www.ionicdynamics.com in the Gallery section.

Please post what other products you wold like for the Maxima. As soon as we finish the 4th gen we are going to start working on the 5th gen.

Thanks!
i like how it goes around the tail pipe
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Originally posted by ionicmax



Wow thanks Mozy!! Did she also e-mail that to you? I just finished answering it and it took me about 30 minutes to complete it.

I think you even answered some questions better than I did Like that one!

And yes you are my friend! You were the first one to post on the very first thread and you have been with me ever since. I really appreciate what you have done!

ptatohed: Thanks for your opinion! The problem about the rear end is that the wheels are a little farther in than in the front and that increases the angle in which the rear of the car meets the pavement when you are driving down a slope. That is the reason you can't have such a lever rear end Thanks for your props!

Keep them ideas coming guys!
Hiya Jose! Ladymax didnt email me, but she started a thread about your kit, I answered a bunch of questions...then typed up that BIG 'OL thing and the thread was deleted!!! I was SOOOOOOOOOO ****ed! but I didnt want all that typing to go to waste...so I just put it up here

Thanks for all your great work, I'll always stick by you! (hey, now we're getting all sappy and stuff)

Keep the cool stuff coming Jose!

Oh by the way, I probably should have asked you this before...
I'm going through alot of threads answering questions about your kit, but I don't have your permission...I don't want to step on your toes or anything. If you want me to tone it down and let you answer the questions, just tell me, ok? c ya!
Old May 6, 2002 | 01:06 AM
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Re: Re: Re: THIS IS FOR "ladymax20"

Mozy: I don't see any problems with you answering any of the questions about the kit. You know allot about the kit because you have one on your car and you have also been on the project from day one

Thanks!
Old May 6, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: THIS IS FOR "ladymax20"

Originally posted by ionicmax
Mozy: I don't see any problems with you answering any of the questions about the kit. You know allot about the kit because you have one on your car and you have also been on the project from day one

Thanks!
Cool! Thanks for the confirmation. I feel much better now that I know I'm not doing something I shouldn't be! And I just want you to know, I want to help you any way I can, even if it means sitting on the internet untill 1:30 at night answering questions and replying to comments

C ya! Its sleepy time!
Old May 6, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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Thanks Mozy
Old May 6, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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somebody wants a job....
Old May 6, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by MrBlank
somebody wants a job....
Actually, I have a job. I just want to help out a friend
Old May 6, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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just got my rear two piece in today, very happy with the part



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