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Old May 13, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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I just saw Fast and the Furious for the first time and......

......I'm sure this topic has been covered, but how can they expect me to believe that a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi Eclipse is going to keep up with a Toyota Supra? And that souped up drag car- 900 hp? Against the Supra? I DON'T THINK SO.....

And when did illegal drag races become... like.... 3 miles long?

Just some thoughts...completely unrelated to Maximas, but something I had to get off my chest.
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What most RICERS dont seem to remember from the movie, the V8 was the " KING " sitting in the garage..not the riced out Civics. I heard the DORK from Malcom in the Middle , paid 150K for the Jetta , the white one. You would think these guys could be more original, and build a car themselves !
Old May 13, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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Re: I just saw Fast and the Furious for the first time and......

Well there was a Maxima in the movie, so you're not too far off base.
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......I'm sure this topic has been covered, but how can they expect me to believe that a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi Eclipse is going to keep up with a Toyota Supra? And that souped up drag car- 900 hp? Against the Supra? I DON'T THINK SO.....

And when did illegal drag races become... like.... 3 miles long?

Just some thoughts...completely unrelated to Maximas, but something I had to get off my chest.
Old May 13, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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1970 Dodge Charger R/T with who knows what all mods including a blower, I'm sure a hemi motor and all that jazz...still one of my all-time favorites.
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What most RICERS dont seem to remember from the movie, the V8 was the " KING " sitting in the garage..not the riced out Civics. I heard the DORK from Malcom in the Middle , paid 150K for the Jetta , the white one. You would think these guys could be more original, and build a car themselves !
Old May 13, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by 2k2Merlot
1970 Dodge Charger R/T with who knows what all mods including a blower, I'm sure a hemi motor and all that jazz...still one of my all-time favorites.
With the Mods listed, that could still handle a 150 SHOT, and the main concern would be traction ! How many RICERS can claim that !
Old May 13, 2002 | 11:17 PM
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yea...I saw him on Friday night TV show. that dumb ares really pay 150k for that jetta. and he cant really drive around.

Originally posted by kloogy
What most RICERS dont seem to remember from the movie, the V8 was the " KING " sitting in the garage..not the riced out Civics. I heard the DORK from Malcom in the Middle , paid 150K for the Jetta , the white one. You would think these guys could be more original, and build a car themselves !
scary thing about that movie is....more kids die from racing and pur NOS were purchased....
Old May 13, 2002 | 11:27 PM
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Well my buddy has a 1996 Eclipse non-turbo and he got an aftermarket turbo installed and now he runs mid 13's which is Supra TT territory. So I don't add NOS and he could have one fast *** car. Not that it already isn't fast. Hell that's alot faster than me.
Old May 13, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Well my buddy has a 1996 Eclipse non-turbo and he got an aftermarket turbo installed and now he runs mid 13's which is Supra TT territory. So I don't add NOS and he could have one fast *** car. Not that it already isn't fast. Hell that's alot faster than me.
yeah that movie was nice. if i get a choice i would take that supra over any maxima.
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You guys are aware that the Supra sold on ebay. It is an automatic non-turbo; nothing special besides graphics and some creative video editing in the movie. However, the Skyline GT-R also sold...now THAT I would like to own.
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yeah that movie was nice. if i get a choice i would take that supra over any maxima.
Old May 14, 2002 | 02:02 AM
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Most Supra's I've seen race do much better then 13s... A few people I know would me ashamed of running 13s in their Supras.

I've seen at least 30 Supras do 9.9-11.5 sec 1/4s.

And remember... When it comes to power-monger cars automatic transmissions do perfectly ine. Many of those Supras were Auto trans.

Just remember you can make any car fast... There are alot of Civics with a ****load of work that can run 10-11s. So it's not "impossible" for it to keep up with a Supra.

I consider anything with a new engine not the original car... And why would you take something as ugly as a Civic and drop a powerful engine in it... It's like putting artwork in a hideously disgusting frame.
Old May 14, 2002 | 02:06 AM
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Re: I just saw Fast and the Furious for the first time and......

Originally posted by asu174
......I'm sure this topic has been covered, but how can they expect me to believe that a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi Eclipse is going to keep up with a Toyota Supra? And that souped up drag car- 900 hp? Against the Supra? I DON'T THINK SO.....

And when did illegal drag races become... like.... 3 miles long?

Just some thoughts...completely unrelated to Maximas, but something I had to get off my chest.
First of all that Mitsubishi Eclipse is supposed to be the turbo model
and there are many turbo Eclipses in the 12s, 11s, and some in the 10s, a couple in the 9s and two or three in the 8s. It is quite possible for a highly modified Eclipse to keep up with a Supra, especially if its boosted AND spraying like the one in the movie. Now we all know the Eclipse in the movie was really a non-turbo in real life, right?

About the Supra vs Charger: There was a daily driven Supra in Turbo Magazine a few months back, I think itw as Saad Saad's that dyno'd over 1000 hp and he drives it on the street. And we've all seen 600, 700, and 800 hp dyno graphs from Supra's on various website and in magazines so the Supra vs Charger scenario is very real as well.

All in all, a good popcorn flick.

Jesse
Old May 14, 2002 | 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by 2k2Merlot
You guys are aware that the Supra sold on ebay. It is an automatic non-turbo; nothing special besides graphics and some creative video editing in the movie.
When was this sale? I just saw both the Supra and the Charger at Universal Studios Hollywood this past March. That Supra had a manual tranny and I couldn't determine whether or not it was turbo (tinted windows-so I couldn't make out the boost gauge) but, the lower front fascia was cracked (maybe from jumping that railroad crossing while racing the Charger) and the front rotors weren't crossdrilled or slotted.
Old May 14, 2002 | 05:28 AM
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Re: Re: I just saw Fast and the Furious for the first time and......

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It is quite possible for a highly modified Eclipse to keep up with a Supra, especially if its boosted AND spraying like the one in the movie.

But you neglect to mention that the Supra was supposed to be even more highly modified in the movie.... It had like 6 bottles of nitrous under the seat.

About the Supra vs Charger: There was a daily driven Supra in Turbo Magazine a few months back, I think itw as Saad Saad's that dyno'd over 1000 hp and he drives it on the street. And we've all seen 600, 700, and 800 hp dyno graphs from Supra's on various website and in magazines so the Supra vs Charger scenario is very real as well.

All in all, a good popcorn flick.

Jesse
You can't have your cake and eat it too.... Did the Supra magically gain 400 horsepower between the Eclipse race and the Charger race? What I'm getting at is that there was no consistency.

Yes, if the Supra was stock or slightly modded, then the Eclipse might hang. But we're talking about a car that can apparently keep up with a 900 hp monster.....
Old May 14, 2002 | 05:29 AM
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And by the way, how stupid of a truck driver tdo you have to be not to just cut the line from that spear gun while he is climbing across it?
Old May 14, 2002 | 06:45 AM
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Re: Re: Re: I just saw Fast and the Furious for the first time and......

Originally posted by asu174


You can't have your cake and eat it too.... Did the Supra magically gain 400 horsepower between the Eclipse race and the Charger race? What I'm getting at is that there was no consistency.

Yes, if the Supra was stock or slightly modded, then the Eclipse might hang. But we're talking about a car that can apparently keep up with a 900 hp monster.....
When did the green Eclipse race a Supra?
In the first big race, it was the green Eclipse, a RX7, a Civic, and an Integra (not sure about the Hondas, they all look the same to me).
The second big race was whenthe Supra beat the Ferrari.
The last big race was when the Supra and the Charger raced.
Old May 14, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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I thought tha the initial race was between the Eclipse and RX7. Isn't that were the 4 cars were lined up. The Supra was not until later in the movie.
Old May 14, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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The Supra doesn't get built til after they blow the Eclipse up. They never race. The only cars the Supra races are the Ferrari and the Charger at the end. I don't know if the Fast and the Furious website is still up, but the site used to have the specs for each of the main cars on the page. The Charger and the Supra had almost identical numbers.
Old May 14, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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More info on the Supra

Here is a link to www.suprastore.com, and all the details on the Supra used in the fast and the Furious. BTW, Craig Lieberman also owned the Skyline that was used in the movie, too.

Check it out:

http://www.suprastore.com/fasandfurhol.html
Old May 14, 2002 | 07:32 AM
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Oh yeah...you're right...my bad. All that orange paint and those ghetto decals looked the same to me.

So what the hell happened to the RX-7?
Old May 14, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by asu174
Oh yeah...you're right...my bad. All that orange paint and those ghetto decals looked the same to me.

So what the hell happened to the RX-7?
The RX-7 was red, and Toretto parked it in that garage after the police raided the street race. Guess he didn't need it again or maybe he only races with it and drives a regular car for day-to-day stuff.
Old May 14, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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you guys need to check out the latest Superstreet Magazine...they got a super nice Supra. It has a freakin Skyline engine!



ps - 700+hp
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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The guy who works on my car owns one of the fastest stock bottom end Supra's in the country. He ran 9.52 1/4. He put his engine back together the other day and just threw it up on the Dyno, 805 HP. The Supra's have been consistantly the cars with the most HP I have seen on the DYNO. Maybe that is just because all the Supra owners come to him for the work he does.
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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Re: Re: I just saw Fast and the Furious for the first time and......

Originally posted by 02MaximizedVQ
About the Supra vs Charger: There was a daily driven Supra in Turbo Magazine a few months back, I think itw as Saad Saad's that dyno'd over 1000 hp and he drives it on the street. And we've all seen 600, 700, and 800 hp dyno graphs from Supra's on various website and in magazines so the Supra vs Charger scenario is very real as well.
first, Saad Saad hardly drives that daily (admittedly, it is a "street" car). and yes, it dynoed at 950rwhp (something in the neighborhood of 1200 crank hp).

About the Charger... fake. Simply fake. No "street" car can do a wheel-stand AND spin the rear tyres at the same time. A wheel-stand is the ability to put all that power to the ground...

About ricers? i neevr understood the word use on this forum.

The maxima was pretty nice though...even with the hood popping open the wrong way.

Best part of the movie:
When those guys shot up the Eclipse.. finally, someone knows what to do with NA Eclipses...
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Originally posted by F23A4


When was this sale? I just saw both the Supra and the Charger at Universal Studios Hollywood this past March. That Supra had a manual tranny and I couldn't determine whether or not it was turbo (tinted windows-so I couldn't make out the boost gauge) but, the lower front fascia was cracked (maybe from jumping that railroad crossing while racing the Charger) and the front rotors weren't crossdrilled or slotted.
the cars used for stunts were stunt doubles.. they cant beat on a car they are using that belongs to someone else.. if you go to the bomex website, you can see pics of 2 supras and 2 rx7's while they were making the duplicates
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Originally posted by F23A4
That Supra had a manual tranny and I couldn't determine whether or not it was turbo (tinted windows-so I couldn't make out the boost gauge)
MKiv Supras don't have factory boost gauges. Also, all turbo MKiv Supras are either 6spd or auto... no 5spd.

If it has a stock IC, check the passenger side front fascia duct... thats where the IC is housed.

Also, turbo MKiv Supras have 17" rims. Non-turbos have 16"
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How did the kid from Malcolm in the Middle pay 150K for the Jetta when the Supra cost half that? Yeah the supra in the movie is the real deal. The green eclipse is a POS if it is N/A. Also, IIRC, the Jetta is auto in real life.

Joe, whats that Bomex site?
Old May 14, 2002 | 07:13 PM
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cars for sale...

Universal had several duplicalte cars that were used in the movie, they sold a few and kept a few. As far as a 4 banger, I have a buddy with an Acura Integra that is running low 11's in the quarter, thats faster than ferrari times.
Old May 14, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by Burton069
How did the kid from Malcolm in the Middle pay 150K for the Jetta when the Supra cost half that? Yeah the supra in the movie is the real deal. The green eclipse is a POS if it is N/A. Also, IIRC, the Jetta is auto in real life.

Joe, whats that Bomex site?
Why do people think the eclipse was N/A? When Jessie (Jetta driver) was analyzing what was under the hood, he said it has a "T4 turbo" etc etc.

Even if the Eclipse they started with was N/A, they could easily have put a custom Turbo in it. Remember later when the FBI guy was saying that the car cost $80K? Sure some of that was Hollywood exaggeration, but it could cost that if they rebuilt the engine and added the turbo.
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Why do people think the eclipse was N/A? When Jessie (Jetta driver) was analyzing what was under the hood, he said it has a "T4 turbo" etc etc.
oh man youre gonna get made fun of did you belive the max was gonna be in the 9's after a little tuning?
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Originally posted by Burton069
How did the kid from Malcolm in the Middle pay 150K for the Jetta when the Supra cost half that? Yeah the supra in the movie is the real deal. The green eclipse is a POS if it is N/A. Also, IIRC, the Jetta is auto in real life.

Joe, whats that Bomex site?
http://www.bomexaero.com/bomexusa.html
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Originally posted by Driven EF9

MKiv Supras don't have factory boost gauges. Also, all turbo MKiv Supras are either 6spd or auto... no 5spd.

If it has a stock IC, check the passenger side front fascia duct... thats where the IC is housed.

Also, turbo MKiv Supras have 17" rims. Non-turbos have 16"
I don't recall stating that I was looking for a factory boost gauge. Rather a general boost gauge. (It's customary for guys with turbo cars to have...boost...gauges....)

I also don't recall stating that it was a 5-speed. Rather I believe said "manual tranny"; a term which technically should cover both the 5sp and/or 6sp transmissions.

As far as the wheels and being able to locate the IC, it's safe to assume that this Supra is just a tad customized.

If you didn't mean to refer to my post, my bad.
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did you belive the max was gonna be in the 9's after a little tuning?
Best line in the movie

Jessie: "Tune the NOS, you'll be running 9's." I don't think any Max broke into the 11's, forget about 9's
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Originally posted by F23A4
I don't recall stating that I was looking for a factory boost gauge. Rather a general boost gauge. (It's customary for guys with turbo cars to have...boost...gauges....)
oooh. i sense some sarcasm... no problem...

Customary for guys with turbo cars to have boost gauges? Wow... so that explains why every turbo supra has a boost gauge. makes sense now.

I also don't recall stating that it was a 5-speed. Rather I believe said "manual tranny"; a term which technically should cover both the 5sp and/or 6sp transmissions.
hmmm, another sarcastic remark. you're full of them arentcha? Well, if you had known about supras (as you tried to appear that you did)... you would have been looking for specifics... rather than vague details. But, that's ok... you're learning.


As far as the wheels and being able to locate the IC, it's safe to assume that this Supra is just a tad customized.
So, a modified turbo supra wouldn't have an IC? So, a guy with a turbo car would have a boost gauge but no IC? Even if it was customized... i think the ability to locate an IC, whether it was a FMIC or a SMIC, would have been pretty simplistic in nature. Unless this Supra thought it'd be more beneficial to have a top-mount IC... or even a water-to-air IC, the piping would still be visible with very little looking. oh well...
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On the DVD, after the credits are done, there's another few minutes of the movie. You find out what happens to toretto.

Anyone know that?

BTW, anyone know anything about The sequel thats supposed ot be out this summer?
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Don't take the movie too seriously

Remember this wasnt a documentary, it was a movie. The Green Eclipse was IN REAL LIFE NON-TURBO to keep things as simple and cheap as possible. When they open the hood during the first street race scene you can see the header bolted to the head. Those BOV sounds you heard were called special effects. Should this in any way ruin the movie? Do those toy space ships in the Star Wars Trilogy make you want a refund for the DVD set? Give me a break...

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anything is possible in a movie, even GEO metro can go 12s.
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Originally posted by Versace
On the DVD, after the credits are done, there's another few minutes of the movie. You find out what happens to toretto.

Anyone know that?

BTW, anyone know anything about The sequel thats supposed ot be out this summer?
The sequel is supposed to center around Toretto and Ja Rule's character. Ugh.... Why do all hip-hoppers think they can act?
Old May 15, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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They really should include a 5th gen maxima in the movie... that would be sweet.
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Re: Don't take the movie too seriously

Originally posted by 02MaximizedVQ
Remember this wasnt a documentary, it was a movie. The Green Eclipse was IN REAL LIFE NON-TURBO to keep things as simple and cheap as possible. When they open the hood during the first street race scene you can see the header bolted to the head. Those BOV sounds you heard were called special effects. Should this in any way ruin the movie? Do those toy space ships in the Star Wars Trilogy make you want a refund for the DVD set? Give me a break...

Jesse
are you jesse from the movie?
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Fast and The Furious

On the DVD, after the credits are done, there's another few minutes of the movie. You find out what happens to toretto.

Anyone know that?


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