I recently just raced an Eclipse Turbo and to my surprise I hung with it the whole damned way! I was seriously stoked because my car dwarfs the the size of the Eclipse. Anyways, it had the start off the line and after about 10 feet in front of me the Maxima started creeping on the bastard and I was nose and nose with it to the end. Either the Eclipse driver was not a good driver or the Maxima was just too much for him. I love these cars!!!!

 

My buddy just bought a 2002 eclipse GT 5-speed. i raced him last night and beat him by 2 car lengths. i running intake,y-pipe, cat, and apexi catback. the only eclipse you have to worry about is the GSX AWD. those things are fast but they're pretty rare. other than that, a stock eclipse is toast when it races a 5speed max

 

uhmmmm...the 3rd gen eclipse...if you can call it an eclipse, is not fast. The 2st and 2nd gens: AWD and FWD turbo machines are easily modded to be quite the fast car. You can get them off the line if they have a bigger turbo though...spool.

 

I raced a talon awd turbo the other day from 60 on i beat him bye bout a car length but around 90 or so he was creepin up but i still had him ohh and dont race all weel cars in the rain we came to a sto light and i dropped the clutch and forgot it was wet out boy did i sit their spinnin all embarressed like!!! hehe ohh well it was fun ohh yeah regular eclipses are slow raced one the other night also was just cruisin saw him sneaking up on the right hear him shift down an floored it i did to i killed him luckly i saw the cop driving ahead of us and hit the breaks in time lol unfortunately mr eclipse did not and passed the cop at about 115 didnt find out what happend to him but im sure its not good when u fly by a cop hehe ohh well just thought i would share

 

And for those people that's never seen them run with the added boost, don't even botherthinking the Max can beat a modded 2nd gen Talon or Eclipse without some kind of boost. Personally, I think the Max will still have a hard time with them at the track.

 

My buddy has two DSMs... Talon N/A FWD (Stick), and an Eclipse Turbo AWD (Stick)...

I (Automatic) can take the Talon from any starting point. When he first got the Eclipse it was mostly stock and I could take it (although by much less of a margin) from about any starting point.

Now it has a bigger turbo, 3" straight pipe, bigger BOV, 2nd Gen MAF and Intake, bigger injectors, SAFC... etc... (still has less than 5G in car including tires and he has been through several pairs)

I can hang with him top speed now if he lets me... other than that, he can smoke me hands down. The only car I can recall him telling me that he couldn't beat recently was a SVT Cobra and his synchros are bad, so that wasn't even a good test of the car's abilities.

The new Eclipses are a joke. I was behind one at a light that pulled on a Jetta next to him. I swapped lanes to the far right as we were going and passed them both. I don't even think they have as much HP as a stock 1st or 2nd Gen DSM with a Turbo. They look like a 1995 Grand Am with a Body Kit and have about as much power in my opinion.

Happy Trails...

 

I am pretty sure that 95 to 99 eclipse turbos run 15.2 or so. I always thought the GSX turbo was slow because of the tremendous weight of their awd system

 

I don't know what the 2nd Gens run stock for FWDs. I think a FWD stock stick shift could probably take me off the line. AWDs lag a bit because of the extra weight.

Most of the DSMs I see now are in my buddies local DSM Club and there aren't many stock DSMs in there.

I remember a DSM Meet I went to with him at Busse woods a year or so a go and there were probably 15 or 20 DSMs in a row out there. This Camaro SS rolls up with a real loud exhaust and starts talking to some of the guys standing closer to the street.

They ended up racing... he (guy with the Camaro) beat one of the faster FWD Talons there but only barely and then he got beat by a Conquest. No one expected that... cleanest Conquest I have ever seen though.

Gotta love them FI Diamond Star motors...

 

they are rare? I have 4 friends with them haha, and see gsx's all the time at home - I say race em! a stock one, although they definately get the better started bein awd, we are faster then them,.. a modded one, unless they are tuned professionally (and then they are KICKASS!!, the tuner that was just here i was talking to , tuned one in florida to 8.x 1/4mile.....), they wont be much faster then stock, and if you race those thigns about 60 or 80mph, they have that whole extra differential and weight to make up for and become very slow...

that DSM motor is easy to make fast though, becareful, there are plenty of fast GSX (and gst's for that matter)

the coolest thing about a GSX is, one of my friends removed the front drive whatevers, so he has a RWD eclipse. Although he cant launch as fast, its still awesome looking, and he can have it awd w/in 30minutes if he wants to go to the track..

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I raced a 94 GS at the track a couple of weeks ago....

Beat him by 1.5 seconds, and I had my heavy rims and speaker box on.

He got a 17.5

IanS

 

Have you taken your car to the track with the manifold yet?

 

Well I know you're talking about the GSX but I have a slightly modded 1st gen gs-t and it would easily take my 99 GXE 5 speed no problem. Off the line it would be pretty close but over 30, bye-bye maxima. And turbo DSM's can be made fast very easily (non-professionally). However, I didn't buy a maxima thinking it was a fast sports car!

 

I'm not sure about gen's, .. but a '99GSX w/ 18g will smoke me off the line everytime no doubt, but once we hit about 80 I am past him and pullin on him bad.. and a 95gsx w/ big 16g will smoke me also, off the line, but at speed i can pull on him -

both of those haven't been tuned like they should have been, and I DEFINATELY agree that the DSM can be made very fast, even without a pro tuner or whatnot.. I like the cars a lot, I am just saying there are a lot of kids who buy them, throw a big turbo on, and expect to fly.. and its fun to race those kids. Now the serious people, well, whatever we do to max I don't see us running with a 8sec or even a 10sec eclipse haha..

 

My times sucked because of all the extra weight, but I did get .4 seconds out of the manifold!

IanS

 

Yeah, a GSX will smoke most cars off the line. I'm amazed you can pull on a 16g and 18g eclipse. Those turbos spool up slow but once you're moving they can pump a sh#t load of air! What kind of mods do you have? My max doesn't want to pull after 40 mph or so!

 

what did u race? just curious

 

A Civic!!!