Just exchanged a couple of emails with Chuck Gonwa (Product Manager - KYB America LLC). He said AGX's would be offered for the 2K+ Maxima in the new 2003 Product Catalog due out in March, 2003. Yikes!! I really want AGX's for my ride and had hoped to get the unmodified versions direct from KYB. I don't believe I can wait until next year though.

Scott Buchanan
2K SE

 

that sux!

actually I've been considering getting Tokico's for the front and the AGX's for the rear but I was hoping to get feedback from someone else who might have already done this.

 

I've heard from so many people here that they've been disappointed with Tokico's on their 5th Gen's. It doesn't appear that they're up to the spring rates of H&R/Progress/Eibach/MaxSpeed. I believe the result of that install would be a mis-match of handling front to rear. You'd probably have to set the KYB's to their softest setting to get close. That's an unacceptable compromise in my book.

 

I was only considering that combination....

I've read a few posts lately too regarding the unsatisfactory feel of the Tokico's but I remember some guy posting that he was gonna go try the Tok's (front) KYB's (rear) combo. I was hoping to get some feedback from him on this.

Worst comes to worst....I buy the cattman modified KYB's cuz I defintiely cannot wait till March of next year.

 

That's likely what I'll do too.

 

Tokico Front/AGX Rear

 

Just remember, if you have problems with them down the road, there is no warrantee on them.

That is unacceptable to me.

Brian

 

Wow that is way too long for me to wait. Even more reason to take a chance on the Tokico blues up front.....

 

The only confirmed negative I've heard with respect to Tokicos on 5th gens is that the rears suck....I don't think the fronts are likely to be bad as the stock front SE Tokico shock is very, very solid with my Eibach springs. Its the rears that are super weak stock, so the Tokico blue rear, even if its higher damped is not likely to match up well with lowered springs. Thus I too will join the small list of those with Tokico blues up front and 4th gen AGXs in the rear.

 

that long? I am now thinking about tokicos front and AGX rear..

 

This same topic was posted earlier and people were using stock tokicos with Eibach springs and they were happy. I'm going to change the springs get the RSB and go from there.

 

not quite what you are talking about but ive got KYB/GR2<5th gen> in front and AGX<4th> in rear and im quite happy with the setup. couldnt wait for the 5th gen agx and there was no way in hell i was getting the tok's.

 

Now THAT is new news! I keep hearing from websites that the 5th gen KYBs are NOT out yet. Where did you get them from and how much if I may ask.

 

gr2 has been out for a while..

http://www.shockwarehouse.com/cgi-bi...ks/search.html
click KYB and choose 2000 MAXIMA

 

they are also badass with shipping had mine in 3 days and im in jersey

 

as you can see..since im already lowered on eibachs and stock shocks.....i dont want to get the modified kyb's since there isnt a warranty.....i decided to just go ahead and get some 18" rims and the greddy exhaust.....when march comes around ill get the REAL kyb agx's and some ground control coilovers....i dont mind waiting until march....my car already looks GREAT on eibachs as it is......i want it lower..but i'll wai..since im already gonna spend some major $$$ on rims and the greddy....and im going to college this fall...

albert

 

Has anyone else purchased these. If these have been out for a while, why has everyone left them off their short list of options for 5th Gens?

 

Prices my friend...prices please.

 

Answered my own question! I checked the link to shockwarehouse.com and got quoted $99.53 per front strut....on $5 more than the Tokico blue from shox.com. Now this may be my solution....KRBs up front...AGXs in the rear!

 

Just read the warranty info on AGX and they are only 1 year unlimited mileage...worth the risk since its the only useful improvement over stock though. Anyone have any thoughts on GR2s vs. Tokico Blues?

 

i dont think many people are aware they are out. also i havent found anyone else that sells them. the only difference is you are sacrificing the adjustability. but they are direct replacement with NO MODIFICATION to the strut or the vehicle.

 

Since I was willing to go with 5th gen Tokico blues up front I'm not too worried about losing adjustability there. Should the 5th gen AGX every come out I'd get them likely up front and keep the GR2s as backups.

 

Not sure where you got that information from. I am looking at a warrantee card right now and the AGX, GR2, and other KYB shocks all have lifetime warrantees.

The Tokico's also have lifetime warrantees too.

I am surprised to see you changed directions so quickly. It seemed like you were set on the Tokico's. Do you have any PERSONAL experience with the GR2's? It seems like you are having good luck with the Tokicos on your other car, why would you change? Make sure you take the feedback you get as just that - feedback – not gospel. Everyone has their own opinions. Remember, your opinion is the most important one.

My $.02

Brian

 

From what I've read, GR2s are direct replacements for the stock struts, ie they are not performance upgrades. That is why no one buys them, not because they don't know about them.

Here's information on the GR2 from the KYB website:
Compare that to what they advertise for the KYBs:

 

I saw the warranty info on the shockwarehouse web site so if you have a warranty card in hand then it should supercede any online stuff. I'm not really concerned at all about the front strut so whether KYB or Tokico I feel confident of two things: 1) that they are stronger valved than stock (even if only slightly) and 2) based on #1 they should both perform flawlessly because my stock front ones do currently. I was only set on a direct replacement up front, and I thought Tokico was all there was to offer. If shockwarehouse has the AGX in stock (since shox.com doesn't) then I'd just get GR2s up front and AGX in the rear from one location. If both are backordered then I'd just flip a coin and go from there. Either way I think(hope!) I'll be pleased. I'm thoroughly pleased with my Eibach/Tockico combo on my other ride, just don't think it has to be the only reason to go Tokico. Either way, I'd swap to the first adjustable direct replacement available next year so I'm not worried too much up front...its the rear end that is the problem.

 

i have had absoloutely no problems with the GR2 they are only in the front <agx in the rear> and perform just as good as stock when the car was not lowered. my car is slammed as low as it can go with Ground controls and they have been in since march also note that i live in Jersey and often drive to new york. the roads are a nightmare. To be honest i blew my stockers the day after i installed GC's. The Gr2's are still going strong since march.

i would much rather worry about a blown strut than have to modify Strut/Vehicle and pay in the longrun.
but hey its your car. not mine

 

my thoughts exactly when i bought them. and ive been happy ever since

 

I would too - that is why I am getting Tokico up front.

I refuse to buy the modifed AGX's for that very reason.

Brian

 

im so into my car that, id seriously wait for them to come out in march. dont wanna try no tricky stuff that might upset my car.