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Old 10-07-2010, 08:57 PM   #1
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4th gen coilover options

im looking to possibly getting a set of coilovers for my 4th gen..i have already tried ksport with no pleasing results for ride comfort..since its a daily i would like the closest option to comfortable ride..thinking about tein basic.

most of searches i was not able to get comfort reviews on tein basic. any other coilovers that are available that would fit in that category?

any help would be appreciated.
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Ground Control (el cheapo CoilOvers) has an option that you can request your spring rate.

You have to call them to see what spring rates are available from Eibach (Ground Control exclusively uses Eibach springs).
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From another thread, this is what I posted. I could only find a bunch of coilovers that are available for the 4th gen.

Springrates for known coilover springs (lb/in)Fr and (lb/in)Rr.

KSport Kontrol Pro Kit (504)Fr and (392)Rr.
Megan Racing (448)Fr and (336)Rr.
Tein Basic Damper (390)Fr and (340)Rr.
JIC Magic FLT-FAX (448)Fr and (336)Rr.
JIC Magic VIP (448)Fr and (504)Rr.
Nex GT ()Fr and ()Rr.
Ground Control *made by Eibach* ()Fr and ()Rr.
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Ground Control (el cheapo CoilOvers) has an option that you can request your spring rate.

You have to call them to see what spring rates are available from Eibach (Ground Control exclusively uses Eibach springs).

you can do that with bc racing too.. there's quite a bit of options too, like custom valved shocks, different spring rates, you have the option of running inverted shocks up front. blah blah blah..
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Im interested in ride quality as well I have a 95 max with 18 rims with 245 45 18 tires with aftermarket struts (monroe) thought that replacing the struts because an alignment shop said they were blown would help the problem but i still feel every bump on the road another org member told me about bc coilovers. I am thinking about getting these because I love my max but I hate feling every bump in the road any suggestions please.
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From what I've read Tein basic COs are your best bet. Using the factory upper strut mounts vs pillow ball mounts helps a great deal, as well as having softer spring rates. That being said the teins are at a disadvantage for travel because of how the ride height is adjusted. If you aren't planning on serious racing and just want improved looks and better comfort then you should like the tein basics. I may go this route too...
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Am Currently rocking Ksports full adjustable coilovers up front with Rear Oem Cut springs and new rear struts. Plus 4 new tires. Its crusin like a 'cedes.

Don't mind how my car looks in the sig.. Only thing diff is I have new springs and new tire(s) set up now. It is squattin a little bit lower..
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Im thinking about going with bc since they have 95% positive ratings anyhow are coilovers the only thing i should upgrade to improve my ride quality
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Who here has got BC coilovers?

http://boostanddestroy.com/blog/tag/...ing-coilovers/

"The BCís will provide the widest range of height adjustment. They also provide the widest range of comfort and stiffness coming equipped with 30 levels of adjustment compared with Tein SSís with 16 levels of adjustment, and JICís 10 levels of adjustment. "

Be nice to actually here from someone who has em.. My max is a daily driver and comfort is important to me too.
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Nice article you posted makes me want to get them even more!
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bc racing..
Not sure howthose irde, never been in a car that head them, but why would you recommend them without telling him how reliable they are, meaning how long they last before having to replace parts.

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From what I've read Tein basic COs are your best bet. Using the factory upper strut mounts vs pillow ball mounts helps a great deal, as well as having softer spring rates. That being said the teins are at a disadvantage for travel because of how the ride height is adjusted. If you aren't planning on serious racing and just want improved looks and better comfort then you should like the tein basics. I may go this route too...
My Teins ride lovely. I was quite suprised how nice they rode when I put them in. The ride much better then my old spring/strut setup.
However, the lower you go, the stiffer they do get.
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Not sure howthose irde, never been in a car that head them, but why would you recommend them without telling him how reliable they are, meaning how long they last before having to replace parts.
From what i know, they are pretty reliable. Look at the 5th gen crowd. I seriously doubt there's much difference between the 5th gen coilovers and 4th gen as far as reliability.

These coilovers can be tailored to your application. Unlike Tein, D2 or ksport. Also if you want replacement parts, you can call up BC directly.
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From what i know, they are pretty reliable. Look at the 5th gen crowd. I seriously doubt there's much difference between the 5th gen coilovers and 4th gen as far as reliability.

These coilovers can be tailored to your application. Unlike Tein, D2 or ksport. Also if you want replacement parts, you can call up BC directly.
Ah, I was under the impression that you were already running these and had to have them rebuilt.
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Ah, I was under the impression that you were already running these and had to have them rebuilt.

No not yet.. Soon
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My Teins ride lovely. I was quite suprised how nice they rode when I put them in. The ride much better then my old spring/strut setup.However, the lower you go, the stiffer they do get.
How low can you set them and still have a nice ride? I would like around a 1.8-2" drop. In order of importance: ride, looks, performance, reliability, and cost.
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How low can you set them and still have a nice ride? I would like around a 1.8-2" drop. In order of importance: ride, looks, performance, reliability, and cost.
Id say 2" for sure. Im a bit lower then that and they still ride good, better then my AGX/Sprint setup but they are a bit firmer then they were originally. They are still not bone jarring.
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I currently have Eibachs and Illumina struts now, and am thinking about switching to coilovers. I'm happy with the current drop and probably would not go much lower than i am now, so would the Tein Basics provide a better ride at the same height? What about NYC winter weather conditions? Would that be detrimental to their longevity?
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I don't really think your going for ride comfort when getting coilovers. IMO its for the look, SLAMMED.
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How low can you set them and still have a nice ride? I would like around a 1.8-2" drop. In order of importance: ride, looks, performance, reliability, and cost.

Yeah youre levels of importance are about the same as mine... Anyone know what the typical lifespan of coilovers are. Dam things are a nice chunk of change.
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I currently have Eibachs and Illumina struts now, and am thinking about switching to coilovers. I'm happy with the current drop and probably would not go much lower than i am now, so would the Tein Basics provide a better ride at the same height? What about NYC winter weather conditions? Would that be detrimental to their longevity?
Not sure, Ive never felt tha setup before. I do know Eibachs tend to be a bit stiff, but with the Illuminas Iwould think they could be fixed, for the most part.


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I don't really think your going for ride comfort when getting coilovers. IMO its for the look, SLAMMED.
Thats what everyone uses them for, but they are orignally designed for track use, which is way they are so adjustable.


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Yeah youre levels of importance are about the same as mine... Anyone know what the typical lifespan of coilovers are. Dam things are a nice chunk of change.
Depends on the coilovers and how low you go on them.
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Where about in ATX do you live Flava? Maybe I can check out your car sometime to see if I like the Tein Basics. I wonder if there is a meet anytime soon?
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Thats what everyone uses them for, but they are orignally designed for track use, which is way they are so adjustable.




Depends on the coilovers and how low you go on them.

Yep they are actually for corner-weighting a car for track use. Doubt any one actually uses them for that on this forum lol.
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Where about in ATX do you live Flava? Maybe I can check out your car sometime to see if I like the Tein Basics. I wonder if there is a meet anytime soon?
North, Pflugerville actually.
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these tien basic should work for the 96 i30 too right?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TEIN-...ht_1464wt_1165
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Yes, but that picture isnt of the actual set. The actual set will not have the top mounts, you have to use your OEM strut mounts.
When I bought mine, I bought all new strut mounts and bushings from the dealer, then assembled outside of the car and simply did a full swap.
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i actually waiting for my D2s to come in the mail so i will give feed back when they are installed 36 way adjustable and im pretty sure it has built in camber too
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... equipped with 30 levels of adjustment compared with Tein SSís with 16 levels of adjustment, and JICís 10 levels of adjustment. "
nothing against bc at all, but this is the biggest load of crap ever. it doesn't matter how many clicks the adjuster makes, it matters what happens when the adjuster is turned.
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i suppose the level of adjustment could be mi-nute compared to other coilovers... anyone else who has had multiple coilovers want to chime in ... I was just quoting from the article ive never had bc's..
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alright cool im in need of a new setup anyways on my stock wheels also whoooo
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I don't really think your going for ride comfort when getting coilovers. IMO its for the look, SLAMMED.
truth.
IMO. you cant really expect to get a really comfortable ride with going real low, im sure there are differences between the coilovers and all their options, but i feel like if your going for a certain drop the comfort level will reduce no matter the coilovers.
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Yes, but that picture isnt of the actual set. The actual set will not have the top mounts, you have to use your OEM strut mounts.
When I bought mine, I bought all new strut mounts and bushings from the dealer, then assembled outside of the car and simply did a full swap.
alright cool yeah im thinking of doing that i won't be slamming my car so comfort should be very close to stock right?
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alright cool yeah im thinking of doing that i won't be slamming my car so comfort should be very close to stock right?
i think if your not slamming it you should just save some money and get a set suspension height like Tein H. Techs or S. Techs.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:46 PM   #35
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alright cool yeah im thinking of doing that i won't be slamming my car so comfort should be very close to stock right?
Well, I wont say its going to be very close to stock but it will be comfortable.


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i think if your not slamming it you should just save some money and get a set suspension height like Tein H. Techs or S. Techs.
Your missing the whole point, he wants to go a bit lower then OEM but still keep a decent ride. Coilovers will give you a much better ride the a set of lowering springs with struts.
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yeah exactly that's why im trying to get recommendation on which ones to get for my i30. J2Fresh recommended me some cattman progress springs + KYB agx package from the cattman website. Is that any good? If not what are some that you guy recommend?

Those cattman ones are the price range im looking for(~500-600), but still open to all recommendations
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yeah exactly that's why im trying to get recommendation on which ones to get for my i30. J2Fresh recommended me some cattman progress springs + KYB agx package from the cattman website. Is that any good? If not what are some that you guy recommend?

Those cattman ones are the price range im looking for(~500-600), but still open to all recommendations
AGX's are stiff, more so in the colder climates. IF you want a good adjustable go with the Illuminas.
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ohh ic ic i know that n3985 has those with eibach springs. i know ebay has some illuminas what other places would have them? and what would be recommendation for the springs? ... that are not soo stiff and more comfortable. and as you had said i don't need that big of a drop on my car since i have 15s

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do those give almost stock ride because that's what im looking for actually. Looking for more on the comfort side with a new suspension setup
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