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Old 11-18-2010, 04:37 PM
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cold air intake install with PICS

so i decided to install cold air intake the diff is noticeable and i love it feel free to comment

tools needed
flat head screwdriver or 8 mm socket
phillips head screwdriver
drill bit
sawzall

parts needed
cold air intake piping
3'' rubber coupling with clamps


my ram air intake set up


here is the pipe i used it was beat up so i painted it


remove fuse box and battery on driverside drill pilot holes and cut a hole a lil bigger than 3'' in diameter


remove driversside wheel



remove the splash guard by phillips head screws u dont have to completley remove



install cold air piping through hole




install air filter



put splash guard back on and wheel and enjoy a better breathin engine

finished product



i can defantly feel a difference on pulls than the ram air intake feel free to comment sorry for the crappy pics took with cell phone

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For us auto guys the CAI is much better over the SRI, I also felt the gains as I got my low end back.

Nice write up. You don't really have to remove the wheel/splash guard but whatever it makes things easier I guess.
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did your old short ram intake make a decent amount of power gain and noise to the engine or was it virutally unoticiable?
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Originally Posted by xtremepb0
did your old short ram intake make a decent amount of power gain and noise to the engine or was it virutally unoticiable?
Noise and gains were both there, gains were in the mid to high end. Low end loss on autos is killer though and if I could go back I would have just bought a CAI from the beginning. If I had a 5spd I would have just left the SRI.

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Originally Posted by ChrisMan287
Noise and gains were both there, gains were in the mid to high end. Low end lost on autos is killer though and if I could go back I would have just bought a CAI from the beginning. If I had a 5spd I would have just left the SRI.
oh alright ive got a 5 speed so ill just get the Short Ram... install seems much easier
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Originally Posted by xtremepb0
oh alright ive got a 5 speed so ill just get the Short Ram... install seems much easier
deff easier but with the cold air i feel alot more power on the pulls than i did with the sri
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I just got my Place Racing CAI in the mail today. I'll probably install it next month when I have time.
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Originally Posted by luke95gxe
deff easier but with the cold air i feel alot more power on the pulls than i did with the sri
Well cold air is always better for the motor..
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where did you get the piping, couplers and clamps? id like to "upgrade" my frankencar ram air.
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If you want the best possible setup loose the mid pipe and install the stock one. Some how the stock resonator helps throttle response. Also connect your valve cover to the mid pipe, you are not helping a MAF setup by running a breather.




The SRI is the worst possible setup, well maybe its marginally better than the Injen. Either way sucking hot air from the engine bay is not helping.
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Yeah the RAI are trash, I'm feelin' the CAI.
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Originally Posted by JSutter
If you want the best possible setup loose the mid pipe and install the stock one. Some how the stock resonator helps throttle response. Also connect your valve cover to the mid pipe, you are not helping a MAF setup by running a breather
I was going to suggest all of that. I believe the stock resonator reduces turbulance in the intake, creating better throttle response. I would have my intake set up just like that but my stock intake went with my old '96 when I sold it And definitely put the hose back that connects the valve cover to mid-pipe. Breathers suck!
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idk if id be comfortable with leaving my filter THAT exposed... other than that its a sick install and great write up... id consider some sort of guard for that filter tho
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Originally Posted by anomaly117
idk if id be comfortable with leaving my filter THAT exposed... other than that its a sick install and great write up... id consider some sort of guard for that filter tho
Its not really that bad. My only input is watch for water, and check your filter every now and again to make sure it hasnt fell off. Mine kept falling off, so I put like 3 hose clamps on it to keep it on there...lol
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Originally Posted by anomaly117
idk if id be comfortable with leaving my filter THAT exposed... other than that its a sick install and great write up... id consider some sort of guard for that filter tho
its covered completley by the splashgaurd in the fenderwell but i am concerned about the water i read somewhere that u can buy a valve of sorts so u dont suck up water
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Originally Posted by Swazey
where did you get the piping, couplers and clamps? id like to "upgrade" my frankencar ram air.
i work on cars alot an came across the piping from another max and the couplings came with my weapon type r sri
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A bypass valve is a good idea because your filter is def. not covered completely. If you run through a decent sized puddle of water, it can get to your filter. If you see standing water, either avoid it, or drive very slowly through it (I only advise driving through an inch or 2 of water with a true CAI)
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so would you guys say that a short ram intake is bad for the engine or just doesnt add as much hp as the CAI?
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short ram is going to suck a whole lot of very hot air in, which is bad
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Originally Posted by JSutter
If you want the best possible setup loose the mid pipe and install the stock one. Some how the stock resonator helps throttle response. Also connect your valve cover to the mid pipe, you are not helping a MAF setup by running a breather......
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I was going to suggest all of that. I believe the stock resonator reduces turbulance in the intake, creating better throttle response. I would have my intake set up just like that but my stock intake went with my old '96 when I sold it And definitely put the hose back that connects the valve cover to mid-pipe. Breathers suck!
Would installing a velocity stack improve the airflow enough to leave the resonator out?




I just got a CAI I baught off ebay and am waiting for the AEM dryflow filter before I install it next week.

EDIT: After doing some reading I found to install a velocity stack with a 3" outlet I will need an air filter with a 6" flange to match the 6" inlet of a velocity stack. I just contacted the seller of that AEM dryflow filter I purchased yesterday to see if I could make a swap for the AEM 21-209DK dryflow filter.

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The stillen and jwt pop intakes have the velocity stack, which bolts to the MAF. Do they help? Not sure. I dont think the huge air filter would fit in the fender well. If it does, it will be tight. I was tempted to try running both since I had a stillen pop and a cai at one time. I just never got around to it for a few reasons. I ended up going back to stock with a b13 bottom air box with a k&n panel. The b13 box sucks air from the fender side, not the rad side. CAI could suck up water (dont ford rivers!), SRI suck up hot air untill you get going, so it lags on the street. Both make too much noise for me with the stock IM. With an MEVI noise was not an issue. At the track I never noticed a difference in times with any of my countless intake setup.
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This size of this filter was my concern also until I compared the 21-209DK with the 21-203DK:

http://www.aemintakes.com/search/univcone.aspx

It's base diameter is only 1.5" bigger and it's only 0.1" longer.

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Im pretty sure you could fit that big filter down there. I think a velocity stack would do some good on our CAI's because of the length of the piping. The velocity stack does exactly what the name dictates, it creates a better pull on the air going into the piping aka "increases the velocity". It may increase the throttle response, but probably not enough to really even notice
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Originally Posted by JSutter
The stillen and jwt pop intakes have the velocity stack, which bolts to the MAF. Do they help? Not sure. I dont think the huge air filter would fit in the fender well. If it does, it will be tight. I was tempted to try running both since I had a stillen pop and a cai at one time. I just never got around to it for a few reasons. I ended up going back to stock with a b13 bottom air box with a k&n panel. The b13 box sucks air from the fender side, not the rad side. CAI could suck up water (dont ford rivers!), SRI suck up hot air untill you get going, so it lags on the street. Both make too much noise for me with the stock IM. With an MEVI noise was not an issue. At the track I never noticed a difference in times with any of my countless intake setup.
does it lag really bad? like compared to your stock set up was it painfully slower?
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TBH I never felt that much difference between stock, SRI and CAI
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Alright. Thanks for answering all my questions by the way lol. I'm just debating on buying a ram intake soon and don't want my car to be slower or have problems
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Originally Posted by JSutter
I ended up going back to stock with a b13 bottom air box with a k&n panel. The b13 box sucks air from the fender side, not the rad side.
Can you clarify as to what a B13 box is?
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Can you clarify as to what a B13 box is?
B13 sentra
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Originally Posted by xtremepb0
does it lag really bad? like compared to your stock set up was it painfully slower?
In the city, I noticed a huge lag being auto with the SRI. With the CAI, that lag is almost eliminated.

On the highway with the SRI there was a delay when going WOT. Again with the CAI, that delay is almost eliminated.

What's nice is that I remove my driver side fog to have a sort of ram air effect.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMan287
In the city, I noticed a huge lag being auto with the SRI. With the CAI, that lag is almost eliminated.

On the highway with the SRI there was a delay when going WOT. Again with the CAI, that delay is almost eliminated.

What's nice is that I remove my driver side fog to have a sort of ram air effect.
oh alright so since i have a 5speed do you think i wont get any lag with the SRI?
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I just installed CM CAI in my 99 auto, it was under $100 and easy to install. I did not realize I had to cut a hole behind the battery. I was able to make due with tin snips, I plan on cleaning up the hole with a dremel next weeekend. Anyway the car sounds likes a beast when I gun it lol. I did not realize it would make such a deep growling sound. I am worried about water getting into the fender when it rains. I understand to avoid puddles but will it be a issue driving in rain, the filter sits very low in the fender less than a inch from the bottom egde.
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Originally Posted by LoKeyM4A3
I just installed CM CAI in my 99 auto, it was under $100 and easy to install. I did not realize I had to cut a hole behind the battery. I was able to make due with tin snips, I plan on cleaning up the hole with a dremel next weeekend. Anyway the car sounds likes a beast when I gun it lol. I did not realize it would make such a deep growling sound. I am worried about water getting into the fender when it rains. I understand to avoid puddles but will it be a issue driving in rain, the filter sits very low in the fender less than a inch from the bottom egde.
where in south florida are you?

but aem bypass 3" works great...about $50 on ebay man
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nice clean install..
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just went to put my cai in and wanna keep my stock resonator but dont know where to plug in the other sensor, what did u guys do about that?
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Originally Posted by maxkid99
just went to put my cai in and wanna keep my stock resonator but dont know where to plug in the other sensor, what did u guys do about that?
The IAT sensor? Mine is just chillin' near the filter.
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get ready to reaplace mad plastic mass air flow adapters.
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5speed 97 gxe which is better SRI or CAI?
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