5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003) Learn more about the 5th Generation Maxima, including the VQ30DE-K and VQ35DE engines.

Please help 02 maxima overheating before even turning car on after sitting over night

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-28-2015, 11:19 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
please help 02 maxima overheating before even turning car on after sitting over night

Hi maxima community I am having this "overheating" situation on my 2002 maxima. This is what is happening. The car can sit hours, over nights etc and when I go to acc with my key NOT TURNING the engine over at all. As soon as I do that the temperature gauge automatically just shoots up to over heating and fans don't come on until I try to start it and it doesn't start on first try. The fans go on blast both of them and never shut off. No leaks radiator has always been full. I am leaning towards a thermostat or a clogged radiator. When it does start it never starts with the right RPMS to warm the engine up. Its also in limp mode. What do you guys think? Thank you !

Last edited by drsfinest81191; 02-08-2015 at 04:47 PM. Reason: more details
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 01-29-2015, 08:11 AM
  #2  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by drsfinest81191
Hi maxima community I am having this "overheating" situation on my 2002 maxima. This is what is happening. The car can sit hours, over nights etc and when I go to acc with my key NOT TURNING the engine over at all. As soon as I do that the temperature gauge automatically just shoots up to over heating and fans don't come on until I try to start it and it doesn't start on first try. The fans go on blast both of them and never shut off. No leaks radiator has always been full. I am leaning towards a thermostat or a clogged radiator. When it does start it never starts with the right RPMS to warm the engine up. Its also in limp mode. What do you guys think? Thank you !
Bump anybody? ?
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 01-29-2015, 08:23 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
nestorlugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,584
Has the thermostat been changed before?

Any codes?

Check the coolant temperature sensor per thr fsm...
nestorlugo is offline  
Old 01-29-2015, 08:40 AM
  #4  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by nestorlugo
Has the thermostat been changed before?

Any codes?

Check the coolant temperature sensor per thr fsm...
I don't know if the thermostat has been changed I've had the car for about a year and a half never any issues.

I don't have any codes besides 2 p0011 and 2 p0051 codes. One is for 02 sensor and the other is ivt selonoid.

My car doesn't have a coolant temperature sensor well I can't find out in the fsm.

Last edited by drsfinest81191; 01-29-2015 at 08:50 AM.
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 01-29-2015, 08:55 AM
  #5  
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
NmexMAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Posts: 34,588
http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Maxima/2003/ec.pdf

EC-208, 209, 210, also show's where it's located.


NmexMAX is offline  
Old 01-29-2015, 09:15 AM
  #6  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Maxima/2003/ec.pdf

EC-208, 209, 210, also show's where it's located.


Awesome. I never read anything about it and never found it in SECTION HA of the fsm where I assumed it was. But thanks any way to test it with out using anything fancy?
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 01-29-2015, 08:37 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
DennisMik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 10,649
Depends on your definition of fancy. You need a volt/ohm meter. A cheap one is $5 and a decent one is $25. If you don't all ready have one, I would recommend that you get one with the "auto ranging" feature. Auto ranging makes it much easier to use.

Then look at page 207 in the link that NmexMAX gave you. There is a resistance/temperature scale for the ECTS. If the engine is cold at say 25º F, then the ECTS should have a resistance reading of around 6K ohms. In your case, I bet you will get a reading of around 100 ohms.
DennisMik is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 12:38 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
dch95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Schertz, Texas
Posts: 619
If you turn the car to ACC after you know for a fact the engine is not hot but the gauge reads hot after doing this, the problem is the sensor that controls your dash gauge. I can't remember which sensor this is but I believe that this sensor also tell the ECU that you are running hot and the ECU turns on fans accordingly. Do a search on this sensor and see what you come up with. Its not a mechanical problem but an electrical problem.
dch95 is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 12:54 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Max_5gen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,165
Originally Posted by dch95
If you turn the car to ACC after you know for a fact the engine is not hot but the gauge reads hot after doing this, the problem is the sensor that controls your dash gauge. I can't remember which sensor this is but I believe that this sensor also tell the ECU that you are running hot and the ECU turns on fans accordingly. Do a search on this sensor and see what you come up with. Its not a mechanical problem but an electrical problem.
Spot on- page EL121 FCM shows ECTS is connected to ECU (they call it ECM) and then ECU drives the gauge. As others suggested most likely ECTS went bad and decreased its resistance making ECU 'think' that the engine is 'hot' causing all the problems you described. ECU would turn on the fans, make AFR lean and engine harder to start and possibly put it in limp mode to prevent overheating.
Max_5gen is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 08:24 AM
  #10  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Thank you guys for everything ! I really appreciate it iam going to test it out today or tomorrow and report back and let you guys know.
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 02:18 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Nopike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,265
That sensor is probably pretty inexpensive and should be relatively easy to change. If you are not sure if the old one is bad you may want to change it anyway. There is a very good chance that the sensor is causing your problems. Although if the sensor was faulty I would expect a trouble code to be activated.

Engine coolant temperature sensor
(P0115, 0103) (P0125, 0908)

Last edited by Nopike; 01-30-2015 at 02:25 PM.
Nopike is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 05:21 PM
  #12  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by Nopike
That sensor is probably pretty inexpensive and should be relatively easy to change. If you are not sure if the old one is bad you may want to change it anyway. There is a very good chance that the sensor is causing your problems. Although if the sensor was faulty I would expect a trouble code to be activated.

Engine coolant temperature sensor
(P0115, 0103) (P0125, 0908)
Yes I thought I would get a code too but guess not. I already took the old one out really easy. I was going to pick up the new one but Nissan parts department closed early today. So tomorrow I will get the new one.

Does anyone know if the 00 01 maxima engine coolant temperature sensor is the same? I wanted to try my sisters sensor since it's so easy to uninstall and install.
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 05:24 PM
  #13  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
On a side note I called nissan to see the price and I didnt have the Vin on me he said it's $60-$80 when advance auto parts and Napa auto parts sell it for $25-30$
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 06:29 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
nestorlugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,584
Originally Posted by drsfinest81191
On a side note I called nissan to see the price and I didnt have the Vin on me he said it's $60-$80 when advance auto parts and Napa auto parts sell it for $25-30$
Perhaps you can ask for the 00 01 pn at the autoparts store
nestorlugo is offline  
Old 01-30-2015, 09:31 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Nopike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,265
Can't say for sure but I would expect 2000-2003 to all use the same sensor. I would just buy the sensor from Napa not from the dealer. Or even consider a junk yard you could get it for a few dollars.
Nopike is offline  
Old 01-31-2015, 11:37 AM
  #16  
Bad *** Newb
iTrader: (7)
 
Child_uv_KoRn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,943
step 1: go to junkyard

step 2: pocket a few sensors just to be sure

step 3: ????????

Step 4: PROFIT
Child_uv_KoRn is offline  
Old 01-31-2015, 05:59 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
DennisMik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 10,649
The ECTS is the same for 1997 to 2003.
Its Nissan part # is 22630-44B20
The Nissan MSRP is $41.33

I don't have any nice things to say about the op's dealer.
DennisMik is offline  
Old 02-01-2015, 09:24 AM
  #18  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by Nopike
Can't say for sure but I would expect 2000-2003 to all use the same sensor. I would just buy the sensor from Napa not from the dealer. Or even consider a junk yard you could get it for a few dollars.
I'm kinda starting to stay away from napa since they say online their high pressure hoses are oem but they aren't I have a leak where the hose connects to the pump. It's a slow little leak but I should of just went oem.
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 02-01-2015, 09:26 AM
  #19  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn
step 1: go to junkyard

step 2: pocket a few sensors just to be sure

step 3: ????????

Step 4: PROFIT
I might just do that pocket it and pay for something big that I need lol.
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 02-01-2015, 09:29 AM
  #20  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by DennisMik
The ECTS is the same for 1997 to 2003.
Its Nissan part # is 22630-44B20
The Nissan MSRP is $41.33

I don't have any nice things to say about the op's dealer.
Thanks a lot dennis I was just about to ask for the part number lol. In the future if I need a part number for a part where can I find it?
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 02-01-2015, 09:44 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
nestorlugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,584
Originally Posted by drsfinest81191

Thanks a lot dennis I was just about to ask for the part number lol. In the future if I need a part number for a part where can I find it?
courtesynissanparts.com
nestorlugo is offline  
Old 02-01-2015, 06:07 PM
  #22  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Originally Posted by nestorlugo
courtesynissanparts.com
Thanks bro
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 02-08-2015, 04:36 PM
  #23  
Thread Starter
 
drsfinest81191's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 16
Fixedd

I want to let you guys know it's fixed! Thanks to you guys. I inspected the ECTS it looked old so I ordered a oem ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR (ECTS) from eBay for 26$ (dealer was 46$) i installed it and it's all perfect again. Now to fix my p0011 ivt solenoid Valve code. I'm going to clean them with brake cleaner like other .org members who successfully fixed the code. I have them out already.
drsfinest81191 is offline  
Old 02-08-2015, 07:16 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
nestorlugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,584
Originally Posted by drsfinest81191
I want to let you guys know it's fixed! Thanks to you guys. I inspected the ECTS it looked old so I ordered a oem ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR (ECTS) from eBay for 26$ (dealer was 46$) i installed it and it's all perfect again. Now to fix my p0011 ivt solenoid Valve code. I'm going to clean them with brake cleaner like other .org members who successfully fixed the code. I have them out already.
nestorlugo is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lakersallday24
6th Generation Maxima (2004-2008)
10
06-16-2019 01:35 AM
Samedi
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
11
08-13-2015 04:05 PM
dauntlessmax
8th Generation Maxima (2016-)
6
08-05-2015 10:29 AM
egali045
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
6
08-05-2015 09:02 AM
wpr
5th Generation Classifieds (2000-2003)
0
08-05-2015 03:28 AM



Quick Reply: Please help 02 maxima overheating before even turning car on after sitting over night



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:12 PM.