I was driving home from class today I got to thinking about Battle of the Imports coming up this weekend and the heads up race class I am running in called Street Performance which is limited to All Motor 4 and 6 cyl (and 2 rotor) cars. Now of course the class will be filled with 90% engine swapped hatchbacks but besides those I was trying to think what there is out there that with just n/a bolt ons meets or exceeds the performance of my Maxima. My list is not including vehicles that have engines that didn't come in the car originally. I've thought of these so far:

Acura NSX
Acura RSX-S
Acura Integra R
Acura CL-S 6spd
BMW M3 (E36 and E46)
BMW 330ci
BMW 540i
Porsche Boxster S
Porsche 911 Carrera 2/4
Honda S2000
Honda Prelude VTEC
Nissan 350Z
Infiniti G35C
Nissan Altima V6


Those are about all I could think of that will give my car a run in the 1/4 mile with the above stipulations. I thought of VR6s, SHOs and Contour SVTs but I've never seen one running near my times with just bolt ons so they weren't included in my list. Can anyone else think of any others that with just bolt ons run close to the same times (or faster).

V6 Non turbo'd:
Nissan 300ZX
Mitsubishsi 3000GT
Dodge Stealth
Toyota Supra


I would say maybe an Audi but they are too heavy.
There are also the camaro, mustang, and IS300. Doubt any will be there but you never know.
I've heard the new celicas can be pretty fast if people know how to drive them.

Camry v6.
Solara v6.

No i said competition All those would get blown away by the cars listed above. I want things as fast or faster than my car. I'm not really talking about stock for stock im talking about my car vs them, whatever normal NA bolt ons they might have. A bolt on non turbo 300z for instance is going to be a long ways behind me. I'm talking basically about cars that can run 14.2ish or faster on street tires with just n/a bolt ons.

- Benz E420/430/500
- Honda Civic Hatch (90ish) with B16A swap (as you mentioned)
- Acura Legend (G2) 6spd w/lots of mods.


I think you covered most of it.

Toyota Celica GTS 6 speed 00 to 01. 02 had lower rev limiter. Then Toyota raised it back up in 03.
Mazda 6?
Honda Accord Coupe 6 speed.
Toyota Matrix/Vibe? Long shot contender

Also the new Mitsu Eclipse V6 5 speed and Hyn. Tiburion v6 5 speed.

Matrix / Vibe with the 2ZZ-GE engine (Celica GT-S) is way too heavy. I don't think there enough mods for the Mazda 6s out yet. Good call on the others though.

i beat a turbo 300ZX last time I went to the drags (he had a bad launch i guess) But ya I beat him twice... only by about 1/100 of a second. But still, those cars arent THAT much faster unmodified that is
-Eagle Talon TSi can be quick too

Neither of those are all motor... I'm talking about cars I could race against in the all motor class I am running that could give me some trouble with just bolt ons. You are right though those are as fast or faster than me, just not qualified for this class

Honda swaps would be my main worry. Are you able too run slicks in the all motor class?

The only time I've seen hondas all that fast with engine swaps is if they have their engine internals upgraded ie: forged pistons, rods, cams, etc.
When I went to the track there was a civic hatchback that had the infamous B18 engine swap and was only running 15.4 as it's best run. Even the preludes aren't that fast for a 1/4 mile run. I think Nealoc will be ok when it comes to most if not all of the engine swapped hondas.

There are some old VQ bugs running some fast times na. I would think a Mazda R100 with a na modern 13b would be pretty damn fast too. They only weight about 2400lbs or so.

VQ bugs???

Does the Street Performance class allow for removal of weight? The ability to strip cars down could really increase your competition.

He mean VW bugs.

Bejay yes all the cars are stripped. Mine was stripped and had more interior pieces than all the other cars combined last year. I am not going this year though unfortunately.

My Silver Frost SHO MTX ran 14.7's@97-98 m.p.h. The only problem I had was launching. This car was very hard to launch without a LSD, thanks to tires with little traction. With better traction it would have very easily been a low 14 second car. This car was a freak though, as it was totally stock. Another SHO, 94 MTX, I had also ran high 14's, but the traps speeds were around 94-95, stock. Don't discount these cars, especially on top end, they will walk a 4th gen Maxima stock versus stock, or with similar mods.

I know they are fast but I was just saying they aren't really competition at the 1/4 mile as evidenced by your times.

theres a VW bug here at school that can run low 13s N/A too as far as I know. Sorry bout the turbo cars - didnt see the All Motor thing.

a bug running low 13s is not NA

Original bug was like 1600cc. The typical overbores are making 1770cc and around 2000cc. A friend at my school had twin 2Barrel Carbs and had to retune them like every week, but he put 109HP to the wheels without any other mods, put that in a stripped bug and you have a quick car.

wow...109!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats sick.

An old vw beetle can get into the 11s on about 150whp. they only weigh about 1500lbs. Thats equivalent to one of our cars making 300whp (same power to weight ratio) plus add in the factors that they are

a) RWD
b) rear engined.

Their entire weight is on the rear tires, so they can get out like hell. Like 1.5-1.6 60' times on slicks.

I have a VW rail buggy with "only" 100hp to the wheels, and it is extremely fast. The thing only weighs like 1200-1300lbs. It will stand the front tires off the ground all the way through first gear.

ya its the light weight that makes them real fast. kid around here also ran it with slicks.

probably your main worry will be the correctly done 92-95ish civic hatch with either the 1.6 or the 1.8 b series swaps. back in the day (a year ago) i had a 90 crx si with a FULLY built b16... it ran 12 flat (on slicks). i could wrap it up past 9k all day long... once i missed third gear, and i even pegged my v-afc rev indicator at 10,000 rpms. by the way the car was COMPLETELY gutted

the only replacement for displacement is technology and massive weight reduction (a little joke phrase i had a while ago

anything gutted would be serious competition. take out 500 lbs of a car, and its gonna be quick, possibly real quick. strip everything out of your max - that'll keep ya up there. you seen the thread about what to take out to save weight? dont know where it is, but its somewhere