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Old May 19, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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14.469 in the 1/4 w/my 2k2 Auto... great WRX kill too! Details inside

Started the night out bad, had a 14.85, 14.71, 14.707, then found some traction and went 14.51, 14.55, then 14.469.

Awsome night, specially the last race. It was against a WRX with some mods (dont know what). He got a good light, so did i, but he has AWD. Killed me on the 60' but then it was all me gaining on him. I ended up passing him for a win: Me = 14.469 WRX = 14.494. Great race, had him by 5 hundredths of a second. Felt soooo good to reel him in!
Also had a mid 90's Impalla SS that ran a high 14's, had him the whole race.
Civic ran a 15.4, he got roasted

Here's the info on my new PB:


60': 2.285
1/4: 14.469
MPH: 95.58

BTW, I did my first 3 runs without the drop resistor, then i "turned it on" via the switch I installed. It made an enourmous difference in the shifts. Definatly lowered my times (14.7's to 14.5's or better). Now if I can get some good tires to get the 60' time into the 2.1's, it'll be 14.2's or so. Thanks for reading! Had to tell the war stories
Old May 19, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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hey waht kind of mods u got done to your car, what size rims u have on also? Also Nice Run im hoping my car will be around taht time also. Whats that drop resistor, sorry if me asking sounds stupid im still kinda new with the imports, but seems that it helped u alot when u turned it on if u have a link or something that will show me what it does and what not i would appreciate it. tkx
Old May 19, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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nice runs Bigdo...think I'll actually try the "drop resistor" mod next time I hit the track..
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you knew i was going to respond to this thread right?

outstanding runs Derek! makes fellow AT proud!

how was the weather? on your 14.5's and pb et, how many mph are you gaining 1/8th ml to 1/4 ml?

if its not too much trouble, can you post 60' and 1/8th mile et and trap please (for best 3 runs) and 1/4 mile et and trap, i want to compare.

the most impressive thing is that you're missing a key element, ypipe or full headers! who knows how well youd run with either component!

keep dragging!
Old May 19, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Those are good numbers.

Get some lightweight 17x7 wheels and put slick 215/50/17 tires and you're set!


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Old May 19, 2004 | 11:52 PM
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good job!

u put my 6 spd to shame!
I need to go cut a low 14 now.
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14's I'm quite upset if I see a 14 sec timeslip now....heh

How was the weather for these runs and what mods are you running now? Nice times
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Blu: ya ya ya upset with 14's.... haha some of us just cant hit 12's in our automagics

Ferbs: Weater was 70 degrees, medium humidity, no wind. Not sure on elevation, its not much tho. Details on the runs are in the 1/4 forum cause i figured all the details belong there. But since ya ask, i'll toss em in here too... just hafta go get the time slips.
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Blu: ya ya ya upset with 14's.... haha some of us just cant hit 12's in our automagics

Ferbs: Weater was 70 degrees, medium humidity, no wind. Not sure on elevation, its not much tho. Details on the runs are in the 1/4 forum cause i figured all the details belong there. But since ya ask, i'll toss em in here too... just hafta go get the time slips.
not a bad trap speed for your minor mods and the outside temps.
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On all those runs I "manually" shifted at about 7000 RPM (I dont hit a rev limiter till somewhere after 7000 according to my tach... dunno why)

R/T: .666
60': 2.285
330': 6.149
1/8: 9.347
MPH: 78.62
1000: 12.114
1/4: 14.469
MPH: 95.58

R/T: .474 (redlighted oops)
60': 2.238
330': 6.138
1/8: 9.365
MPH: 77.98
1000: 12.15
1/4: 14.518
MPH: 95.09

R/T: 856 (crap reaction was busy goin from D to 1)
60': 2.238
330': 6.154
1/8: 9.393
MPH: 77.79
1000: 12.187
1/4: 14.563
MPH: 94.77

Mods:
-Straight pipe
-Custom 2.5 inch piping cat-back
-Straight thru muffler
-UR Underdrive pulley
-Custom CAI (ram air sorta thing)
-K&N Filter
-Drop resistor mod
Old May 20, 2004 | 04:28 AM
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yo bigdo can you explain the drop resistor mod to me and how to wire a switch to turn it on and off from the car

also will the drop resistor mod make my ses light come on??
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Ya, the trap speeds kept goin up. my first run was at 93.2 ??? all time low, but then it got into the 95's again. Was actually hopin for 96's cause i've done the 95's before, but then again it was in 55-60 low humidity weather when I was runnin those.... hafta find a cooler night
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Yes, the drop resistor will turn your SES on. However, after about 5 days of driving, the SES will turn itself off. It has many times for me. The drop resistor mod allows full line pressure in the auto tranny making for faster, harder shifts. The switch I wired in is somewhat explained in my cardomain site,
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...218989&page=15

I know the pics and description are crappy, I wrote it in a hurry. The plug is located on the drivers side strut, all you really need to do is unplug that connector. If you want to wire in a switch, cut 1 of the two wires, connect it up so it runs thru a switch. I just leave that switch in the "on" position so that the car drives normally, but then if I'm racing, put in in the "off" position so it acts as if I unplugged the connector. If you have more q's, feel free to ask tho too, hope this helps
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Originally Posted by limsandy
Those are good numbers.

Get some lightweight 17x7 wheels and put slick 215/50/17 tires and you're set!


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If he has the stock brake setup, then you can use the Kosei K1 Racing 15" wheels on the front with DR's (or slicks). They will fit (as per Jime and his N2O experiences)...

Talk about launching like a rocket
Old May 20, 2004 | 05:24 AM
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If I had the $ to get the slicks setup, I definatly would. That's an easy entry to the 13's, as Jime has demonstrated with that crazy launch
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
If he has the stock brake setup, then you can use the Kosei K1 Racing 15" wheels on the front with DR's (or slicks). They will fit (as per Jime and his N2O experiences)...

Talk about launching like a rocket
any link to info and pricing on these wheels and slickss??
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Old May 20, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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Nice times Bigdo!!! I'm pretty good through 60' but seem to fade strongly by the 1/8 mrkr; and I'm certain its tranny related.
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
Ya, the trap speeds kept goin up. my first run was at 93.2 ??? all time low, but then it got into the 95's again. Was actually hopin for 96's cause i've done the 95's before, but then again it was in 55-60 low humidity weather when I was runnin those.... hafta find a cooler night
VQ35 guys need some sort of MEVI. I'm not too well versed with these things, but apparently the 4th gen guys with the ecu and mevi are picking up 20-22mph on the top end.

I have seen this in person, I raced Mike in his Inifiti, and he was picking up top end like crazy. I noticed from your 1/8th to 1/4 traps that you are picking up 17mph, which to a certain extent can be attributed to weather, but as I do the same (maybe 18mph) I would say our top end can definitely be helped.

Im going to start paying attention to 5.5th gen 1/8 to 1/4 traps. I need to know if 17-18 mph trap diff is consistent across the board.
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Originally Posted by 2k2whitemaxi
any link to info and pricing on these wheels and slickss??
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Tirerack has the wheels (15x7" for $129 each), and you could use M/T slicks (or whatever brand you prefer) with them.
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Originally Posted by Ferbs02SMMax
VQ35 guys need some sort of MEVI. I'm not too well versed with these things, but apparently the 4th gen guys with the ecu and mevi are picking up 20-22mph on the top end.

I have seen this in person, I raced Mike in his Inifiti, and he was picking up top end like crazy. I noticed from your 1/8th to 1/4 traps that you are picking up 17mph, which to a certain extent can be attributed to weather, but as I do the same (maybe 18mph) I would say our top end can definitely be helped.

Im going to start paying attention to 5.5th gen 1/8 to 1/4 traps. I need to know if 17-18 mph trap diff is consistent across the board.

We already have a variable intake man...
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
If I had the $ to get the slicks setup, I definatly would. That's an easy entry to the 13's, as Jime has demonstrated with that crazy launch
Well it would take a little more power to get into 13's for you than just slicks and 15's. The best your going to do all motor 60' is 2.0x. I have made dozens of passes as well as Jime and all motor 2.0 is all we can squeeze out. Jimes amazing 60's come from 350+ ft lbs of torque launching not just bolt ons.

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Originally Posted by Ferbs02SMMax
VQ35 guys need some sort of MEVI. I'm not too well versed with these things, but apparently the 4th gen guys with the ecu and mevi are picking up 20-22mph on the top end.

I have seen this in person, I raced Mike in his Inifiti, and he was picking up top end like crazy. I noticed from your 1/8th to 1/4 traps that you are picking up 17mph, which to a certain extent can be attributed to weather, but as I do the same (maybe 18mph) I would say our top end can definitely be helped.

Im going to start paying attention to 5.5th gen 1/8 to 1/4 traps. I need to know if 17-18 mph trap diff is consistent across the board.

Its more to do with the crappy gearing of the 4 spd. The 02-03 have a form of VI but it doesn't have the high end gains of the 00-01's. The main reason they are gaining is good top end and much closer gear ratios than the automatic. Myself after headers gain 20mph+ in the last 1/8th. Occasionally it will be 19 but 90% of th etime its 20mph+.

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Actually, per SR20DEN you guys don't, but you have variable valve timing which helps.

Check the pics:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....43#post2963343

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We already have a variable intake man...
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Actually, per SR20DEN you guys don't, but you have variable valve timing which helps.

Check the pics:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....43#post2963343

Hmmmm...so what would be the correct term for our intake? It is variable to some degree, but it doesn't have two sets of runners per cylinder...
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I'd say it's not variable at all.

It's a standard common plenum single runner design, sorry I don't know the type/term for those.
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I remember when people were doing the drop resistor mod, but I remember someone saying that our tranny automatically puts full pressure in at WOT. Normal driving around town you won't have all the pressure which allows you to shift slower, but when the petal is to the metal if applies full pressure, but..... numbers don't lie. It looks like after you flipped your drop resistor off and allowed full pressure you gained in your 1/4 mile. Good job
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Nice times, if my wife allowed me to spend a little money on mods instead of her and the house I could get my autotragic into the low 14's and trap at 96 or so. Since i'm already at 14.6 totally stock, again nice runs!
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Nice times, if my wife allowed me to spend a little money on mods instead of her and the house I could get my autotragic into the low 14's and trap at 96 or so.
You just hit a nerve Monte. I've got the same problem.
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You just hit a nerve Monte. I've got the same problem.
I know bro, she says these cars are quick enough already its waisted money. In my head I'm like you just think you are going to be missing out on something for you!
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
Yes, the drop resistor will turn your SES on. However, after about 5 days of driving, the SES will turn itself off. It has many times for me. The drop resistor mod allows full line pressure in the auto tranny making for faster, harder shifts. The switch I wired in is somewhat explained in my cardomain site,
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...218989&page=15

I know the pics and description are crappy, I wrote it in a hurry. The plug is located on the drivers side strut, all you really need to do is unplug that connector. If you want to wire in a switch, cut 1 of the two wires, connect it up so it runs thru a switch. I just leave that switch in the "on" position so that the car drives normally, but then if I'm racing, put in in the "off" position so it acts as if I unplugged the connector. If you have more q's, feel free to ask tho too, hope this helps
Here is better pics of the resistor you can add it to your write-up





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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
I know bro, she says these cars are quick enough already its waisted money. In my head I'm like you just think you are going to be missing out on something for you!
Didn't you get into a bad wreck about 6 weeks ago? How is everything going with your recovery man? I don't tell the s.o. about anything I do to the car, she is just curious about sounds the car wasn't making before, i.e. intake whistle and scream at wot. I don't tell her a thing, avoids arguments about $$ wasted.
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Congrats on the new best. 14.4s with minimal work is very impressive. If 2k2+ autos could get 14.6s@94mph+ at my track I'd buy one. I don't know if my track is slow or what, but I've seen two stock 2k2 SE autos run and they were getting consistent lower 15s@91mph when I was getting 14.4s@97mph+. It would just take too much money for me to propel an auto 2k2 to mid 14s at my track (KCIR). I have heard rumors of a 2k2 Altima SE auto with a y-pipe and intake pulling 14.8s@94mph and I've personally witnessed a bonestock 2k2 Altima 5 speed pulling 14.5s@96mph.

Concerning the 3.5 intake manifold, I thought it was a long/short runner design too, but from SR20DEN's pic it appears to be a resonance tuned manifold much like the 4th gen MEVI. I guess that explains why the 2k2 power peaks at 5800-6000rpms and holds relatively steady instead of continuing to climb.


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Great times Derek....got me souped to hit the track this June see what I can do w/ the few mods and non OEM tires...
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Originally Posted by Ferbs02SMMax
Didn't you get into a bad wreck about 6 weeks ago? How is everything going with your recovery man? I don't tell the s.o. about anything I do to the car, she is just curious about sounds the car wasn't making before, i.e. intake whistle and scream at wot. I don't tell her a thing, avoids arguments about $$ wasted.
Hey Bro yes I was the recovery is going, I'm still at home on crutches/arm brace/back brace and in some pain. My wife comes home and checks on me often which is good since I'm on 5 different medicines.Thx for asking, my wife drives my car most of the time instead of her 350 to "keep it going" as she call it (she is actually tired of here 350-ride and other little stuff and wants a TL first time for her not in a Z car in 15 years). Her being a car enthusiast would notice anything different I did to it or her car.
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Congrats on the new best. 14.4s with minimal work is very impressive. If 2k2+ autos could get 14.6s@94mph+ at my track I'd buy one. I don't know if my track is slow or what, but I've seen two stock 2k2 SE autos run and they were getting consistent lower 15s@91mph when I was getting 14.4s@97mph+. It would just take too much money for me to propel an auto 2k2 to mid 14s at my track (KCIR). I have heard rumors of a 2k2 Altima SE auto with a y-pipe and intake pulling 14.8s@94mph and I've personally witnessed a bonestock 2k2 Altima 5 speed pulling 14.5s@96mph.

Concerning the 3.5 intake manifold, I thought it was a long/short runner design too, but from SR20DEN's pic it appears to be a resonance tuned manifold much like the 4th gen MEVI. I guess that explains why the 2k2 power peaks at 5800-6000rpms and holds relatively steady instead of continuing to climb.


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Down here its not hard in an 02/03 Auto to get those times once you get the launch down, its guy down here that bested my time totally stock. His time was 14.59 flat at 94.98 mph, your track seems slow, what the elevation,humidity like their? BTW that thread going over at the GTP site is hilarious vs the Maximas, I see your in thier handling up for the Max.
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R/T: .666 <Your reaction time is Devilishly delicious for an auto

Great job, I always wondered what an auto could do.

How do you go about shifting these autos for racing and what is your launch RPM's?
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Ya I liked my .666 reaction time too

I launched around 1500 RPMs and rolled on the gas with just a tad of wheel spin that turned to wheel hop before finally hooking up. I've run the car on 2 other occasions, first time 14.8's, second time 14.6's, and now 14.4... still have yet to get a really good 60' time, if I could get a 2.1xx 60' that would give me a 14.3 or possibly 14.2. I'm now hopin I can nail a 14 flat by the end of the summer. Maybe break into 13's with a few weight reductions....
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Down here its not hard in an 02/03 Auto to get those times once you get the launch down, its guy down here that bested my time totally stock. His time was 14.59 flat at 94.98 mph, your track seems slow, what the elevation,humidity like their? BTW that thread going over at the GTP site is hilarious vs the Maximas, I see your in thier handling up for the Max.
It's about 1100' above sea level at my track. Humidity wise it's probably about like where you live (ie it's pretty humid year round). I will note that when I had my 94 Z28 and I went to HRP (Houston), the Z28 was about .3 and 3mph faster than running at my normal track in KC. It was also hotter in Houston the day I ran. I firmly believe some tracks are good and some suck. It's pretty sad when 6 speed Maximas are only pulling 14.8s@96mph at my track. Of course his 60' was a sad 2.3X, but he still shouldn't be that slow. Another Maxima owner drove the car and got a 14.8 too. Hopefully more 3.5 Maxima owners will show up at my track and start laying down some strong numbers. I know low low 14s are possible in these cars, but not at my track. I'd hate to trade down for a slower car.


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oh.. we can run low low 14's now that you wanna get one eh? (i'm just pulling your chain dave )

But yeah with a 96mph trap they should still be able to manage a 14.5 or so... maybe they were shifting slow..

i only trapped 96mph but managed to pull off a 14.4 so... i dunno, it's all in the launch... even though my 60' was only 2.303 i launched at a higher RPM so I was in my powerband when the tires finally caught.

Monte: tell your wife to get the 04 Z suspension it is MUCH smoother. hope u recover quickly
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It's about 1100' above sea level at my track. Humidity wise it's probably about like where you live (ie it's pretty humid year round). I will note that when I had my 94 Z28 and I went to HRP (Houston), the Z28 was about .3 and 3mph faster than running at my normal track in KC. It was also hotter in Houston the day I ran. I firmly believe some tracks are good and some suck. It's pretty sad when 6 speed Maximas are only pulling 14.8s@96mph at my track. Of course his 60' was a sad 2.3X, but he still shouldn't be that slow. Another Maxima owner drove the car and got a 14.8 too. Hopefully more 3.5 Maxima owners will show up at my track and start laying down some strong numbers. I know low low 14s are possible in these cars, but not at my track. I'd hate to trade down for a slower car.


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Makes since Dave since you have the altitude and humidity that sorta robs the cars power, what are the G35 autos running there if you know( yeah those times prove that the track is slow and the conditions are robbing it of some power)? Here they are running times very similiar to mine and few slightly slower.



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