Got out to the track again tonight (wednesday). Not the regular track I go, Byron Dragway, but Great Lakes Dragway in Wisconsin. I was out there about 3 weeks ago and was running 14.5-14.6 at 94-95, this was during my dyno problems.

Good night for racing. In the 50's with low humidity. Got a little too cold at the end of the night to get any traction, but conditions were great early in the evening as the sun was going down and the temps were dropping. Enough sun to keep the track warm but still the cool air.

Couple of the better runs.

60 2.125
330 5.970
1/8 9.150
mph 76.51
1000 11.908
1/4 14.235......(.05 away from a new PB)
mph 97.42

60 2.103
330 5.909
1/8 9.162
mph 76.14
1000 11.942
1/4 14.285
mph 96.83

Not the highest traps, but 60' and ET were decent. I have not been this close to my old PB in a while. Compared to how things were when I ran my PB of 14.19...No weight reduction this time. PB was with front seat removed and rear bench. PB weather was better, in the 40's but bright and sunny. PB was at Byron Drag Way, probably the fastest track in the midwest.

So I think 13's are still possible, but it will just be by the skin of my teeth if I can do it. I won't bother going to the track again unless I go to Byron Dragway. I know Neal usually runs .1-.2 faster at Byron and so do I. I just need to pull a little bit better 60', like a 2.05 or better and maybe a bit of weight reduction.

Oh, well. Can't win them all.

 

Nice times there. Very impressive 60's. Are you still on street tires? I assume so. What is your best trap speed? 96.8 seems a little low for the JWT/MEVI combo. Since you sold the PF TB, I assume you don't plan on modding much more?

 

This was on drag radials. I am not doing a burnout before I launch, my car does not want seem to want to cooperate. All I do is drag my butt when I try to smoke them up.

No, the traps were not too impressive. I have traped 99mph many times at my regualar track. I was still gaining my normal 21mph or so in the secnod 1/8 but the first 1/8 is where I seemed to be a bit slower. You can't really compare two different tracks.

I don't know about doing anymore mods. I guess the next step would be to go forced induction but that won't happen anytime soon. So I guess I am done for now.

 

*coughcams*

 

What is it with these DRs? You try to do burnout with them and they posess too much traction for your locked rear tires to stay planted. This is why RWD, torque, and an automatic are so much better for burnouts.

Your times are looking good. Like we've talked about in the past, every track is different. I wouldn't be surprised if you'll end up landing a 14.0@99mph+ later in the season at Byron. Didn't we talk on time about you racing at a track in Oklahoma with your Bro and you were only getting 14.6s@94mph and two weeks later with no changes, you ran at Byron and were back to your typical 14.2-14.3@98mph+?

With the DRs, I think our MPHs may suffer slightly due to their very short ratio, but our ETs should drop thanks to the traction.

What RPM are you crossing the finish at? With my 7000rpm limiter and DRs, I was hitting the limiter in 3rd just after the finish.


You're never done. Seriously consider Stage I SFCs as you next mod. You won't be any faster with those 25lb bars, but you'll be pleasantly surprised in the handling and improved ride quality.

 

About what speed with regular wheels does 3rd go to (w/7000 limit)? Like 104?
I can also say the SFC's are worth the money. With those (stage II), Matt's LTB and ES bushings, the car rides so damn well. It just eats up bumbs and road imperfections. Also, the highway ride is so smooth you feel like you could keep on accelerating and still be safe. Very little body lean as well. Patrick was wondering why my car rode so well for having 17's compared to his 15's.

 

I am right at about 7k when I cross, 2-3 hundred rpm's earlier than with my 25" tires.

I really hope I do get 14.0's at 99..maybe 100. I can't take out my passanger seat anymore due to bolt problems. So I won't ever be as light as my PB time.

I think part of my burnout problem is my weak e-brake...it has alot of slack in it and I have to pull it up really hard to keep my car from rolling if parked on a hill. I like pulling 2.10's but I spent the money to pull 2.0's. I really need that extra tenth on the launch.


I put a hurt on a SC auto maxima...will try and post video. I also had a few good runs against some WRX's. took the win every time but they were real close races.

 

I forgot to ask, were you running a higher octane mix?

I plan on going back to track shortly and I'm going all out. No passenger seats, 96+ octane, put my hybrid intake back on (long story), no Stage II SFCs (16lbs, long story), and DRs. Anything better than a 14.4 and I'll be happy because this has been a dissappointing season to say the least.

 

I did put in two gallons of 100 (that is the only unleaded they had) to about 4-5 gallons of 93, so it did not make that much of a difference. About 94-95 I imagine. But my fastest run of the night was before I put in the race gas so it doesn't really matter.

I am planning on one more trip this year to Byron dragway. I will also go all out and do some weight reduction. I can't take out my passanger seat but I will do everything else I can. whole rear seat, metal plate, floor mats...

 

Hey Mike, you can't let me be the first I30 (besides I30krab....??) to get into the 13's. You gotta get back on top of your game. I'm coming up soon man.....

 

Nitrous doesn't count

 

Who said it was even involved?

 

Your sig....and if your the first I30 is the 13's then

 

nitrous will not be involved in the fastest NA I30 contest.... me all you want....



















BTW- it's on

 

i still think you might have a hard time getting by me.

 

You do a burnout in the water box? Ask one of those guys by the water box to put push down on your car when your about to do a burnout so it doesn't go anywhere.

 

That is a good idea

 

Somehow I don't see the track employees being willing to help some ricer do a FWD burnout when the possibility of getting run over is involved.

 

then why don't you come down here and do it

 

new PB eh?

its still on itches!


edit- why dont you list your mods on your webpage?

 

thats too much like work. and there is a recent thread in this section w/ them already listed.

 

looking good ! will pop open cold can of beer and down it when mike hits 13.x !

 

Get out to the track down there yet?

 

nope not yet, the max is still in the states , long story but should arrive here in dec. trying to buy a car this week so i can at least drive.... LOL !

 

Mike, did you read my reply in the other thread to your message on exactly how I do burnouts on any tires? When they spray the waterbox only half of it is sprayed... do exactly what I said and you will light 'em up real good!

Mike and Dave, have you guys considered running like 91 Octane? Or what percentage of ethanol does your 94 and up Octane have? My Mustang buddy gets better times with Esso 91 Octane vs Sunoco 94 Octane - the 94 contains 10% ethanol which apparently does not burn as well as the 91. The 94 is just cleaner burning which he doesn't really care about when trying to squeeze every last 1/10 sec. out of his car.

Good luck man!

 

Yes I did. I will give it a try nest time out at the end of the month. Your 13 sec time slip looks just like mine but with a better 60'. I hope to pull a 2.0 60' and get a 13.9.

I believe all the gas up here has 10% ethanol

 

hehehe I had one slip that was interesting...

60': 2.000
ET: 13.999

Good luck buddy... I hope you nail the 13s next time out!

 

Hey Speedemn

If you don't mind, can you post up your info from your 13.89 timeslip? I want to compare your run with some of my runs. Also congrats for getting into 13's.

thanks

 

Here you go... dyno numbers along with time slip... http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=342122

I will post both in their respective forums to make it easier to look up.

 

I know your running the VI and ECU...have you gotten some good times out of the car?

 

Best I have run is 14.525@96.350. I plan to go back soon with 15 inch rims or 16 inch rims on instead of the 18's. What do you recommended? New tires on the sawblades or new tires on 300zx rims?

 

What type of 60' are you pulling? Do the tires your getting have to be street tires or could you go with slicks or DR's?

 

I been getting average 2.2 sixty foots. I have read your's and daveb's posts on your difficulty with running your slicks. I have heard DR's don't really do anything so I was thinking of gettting some toyo t1s.

 

I have ran slicks and DR's...it's a problem with me not the tires. I bought the slicks used off of Neal for pretty cheap. Tried to use the on one outing but did something wrong when I tried to warm them up and burnt my clutch up. Didn't ruin it or anything just over heated it really bad. I ran the slicks again later on that day and launched without a burnout and still pullled a 2.0x 60'. Ended up selling them when I need some quick cash for my motor replacement.

Got DR's for this season and have used them twice. I have been worried about trying to heat them up because I don't want my clutch to get burnt up like what happend with the slicks. Not because I am so much worried about the clutch, I just don't want to over heat it and not be able to run the rest of the day. With the DR's and no burnout I pull 2.10-2.15 just about every time. Doesn't sound like the greatest and I have been able to pull a PB 2.14 on street tires before but a 2.1x on street tires in happens maybe once in every 5 runs. So with the DR's at least I am consistant and can pull low 2.1's every time. And DR's are so much easier to use than street tires. With street tires I am always fighting spin, wheel hop, bog.... but with the DR's (no burnout mind you)I just tack it up and drop the clutch. So to me, pulling low 2.1's every time is worth the money for DR's. Now I just need to stop being a wuss and practice my burnouts. I usually give it a try and last few runs of the night so that if I burn up my clutch it doesn't really matter because I am done racing for the day.

I say if you have a spare set of rims that will only really be used for the track your crazy to spend money on street tires. At the very least you can pull low 2.1's on DR's with out even warming them up....and you will be able to do it every time. I have been able to cut .1-.15 off my 60' so far. Now If I can just heat them up I know I can pull low 2.0's every time.

 

Do you have the BFG DR or the Nitro DR?

 

225/50/15 Bfg

 

In order of stickiness:

Slicks>BFG DR>Nitto DR>T1-S

Putting T1-S on a dedicated drag wheel is an excercise in futility, not to mention a huge waste of money. Street tires are street tires and I pull the same 60' times out of 235 wide T1-S as I do out of 195 wide General POS 550 treadwear crap all season junk tires (2.172 and 2.170 are my best street tire 60' times, respectively). You are going to be really really mad at yourself if you buy T1-S for drag tires.

I love my T1-S for street tires but you are making a mistake if you think they will help you drag racing, they wont.

 

Been meaning to ask you. Any weight reduction on your 13 sec runs?

 

Not at all. I have a fully loaded SE (from 95). I just removed my spare and jack, but I never keep them in the car anyway. I did take out an umbrella and 20 CD holder from my trunk, the night before though.

What does your car weigh anyway? I think that might be your main culprit... I bet it weighs more than the rest of us gen 4 guys.

 

Did you weigh your car at the track speedemn, or have you ever?

Mikes car only weighs about 100lbs more than my car does, and he probably weighs 20lbs more than me.