going to lacr next week to race a 95 Stang GT 5 spd. w/ a 5.0 w/ an h pipe, bassani exhaust, pirelli z rated 295's and a sts. I got a 95 gxe 5 spd. w/ CAI/y + centerforce dual friction clutch and 9 lb flywheel, 225/45Zr17 all around...what do u thnk the outcome will be? i would appreciate feedback guys

 

Should be a pretty close race I'd say unless one of you is a significantly better driver than the other.

 

we have simaler mods and i ran a 90 gt 5spd with full header back exhaust intake mas air and injectors and he put 2 cars on me from 45 to 90 so i would say your both are traping in the 94 to 95 mph range but those cars are so much easier to lauch being rwd. i would say its a drivers race

i ran my buddys 93 5spd and the track and by just dumping to clutch @3k on crap street tires pulled a 2.09 60 final was 13.4 @107 he ran 12.9 @108 with a 2.0X 60 but after all its his car

 

he will launch on you off the line. if it is a long race you may catch him. recently raced a 2004 stang GT from a stoplite. he pulled 3 car lengths on me off the line but i caught him and passed him around 90mph.

 

wow. What year is your maxima and what do you have done? I'm not feelin those new mustangs but they have the engine to back it up. To each thier own.
-Paul

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96 SE 5speed i/y
2.28
14.762
93.8

I need a new tranny! pm me

 

the 5.0's react well to mods, they can be nasty engines. i've raced some that i just kill, but others have absolutely blown my doors off

 

I had a 96 infiniti and beat a gt once. he would not let me go by on the fast lane while I'm trying to get home after a hard days work. so I pulled beside him on the middle lane. I gunned it and so did he cause I seened the exaust blow out but was no comparison I just kept pulling away.

but like BIGDO26 said so are just fast as hell.....

 

I raced my friends 97 GT from about a 40 MPH roll and kept a nose on him until about 80. At that point I had to shift the automagic and I let off before my friend killed himself by running into the back of someone. He wasn't too proud of his Stang after that. I think he would have took me... eventually. If I would have had a 5-speed he wouldn't had a chance. Keep in mind that I was racing a 96-98 model which is one of the slowest Mustangs made. The one you are racing is a 5.0 model and it responseds well to mods.

The problem with racing against Mustangs is you never know what they have. You could be up against a 9 sec. car or a 18 sec. rebadged 4 cyl.

Gears

 

You really dont want to challenge stangs in the 1/4 that is their game. It will be closer since he is not that modded, but if he does some intake mods, good bye. I will still guess he will beat you, unless he messes up. You will run no better than a low 15 at LACR and he will run a mid-high 14 if he drives it right.

 

I live in Georgia and I can say that ALOT of people have Fox body style 5.0 Mustangs around here. One of my buddies has had 16 mustangs, (yes, 16) and he told me all about how they respond to mods. 3.73's+exhaust= easy 13's. 3.73's+exhaust+heads=12's. (well he ran 13.01 at Commerce) He took me for a ride in his bone stock 93 LX 5.0 5-speed and it was no joke. (I almost bought it right then and there. 83k miles in GREAT shape for $4000)

 

ok, from reading this I don't understand one thing about mustangs...
a GT mustang stock (Stick) will lose to a maxima, form 0-100mph, but win on a 0-60mph?
but a moddified GT (95+) will be close or beat the maxima? (depending of how much moddification.)

 

It is tough talking about stangs on the maxima boards. Maxima owners have always had a weird way of thinking about mustangs, they all think they can beat them or something, they only have a chance against a stock mustang or VERY lightly modded stang (unless the maxima is boosted). It is all drivers race.

 

slow95vq, when are you racing him? and when you do please inform us of the outcome.

 

i'm racing him 24th of nov. which is next wed. if we both have work off, if not, then the next wed. but i'll be sure to tell u the outcome...i hope i win, i've been talkin a lot of S***. BTW how much should i deflate my tires before racing(psi)? thanx guys

 

I think the Mustang will take you, but I agree with what a lot of these guys have said, it will come down to the driver.

Get up on the wheel and let'r rip!!!!

 

i am in the same situation. I've got 2000 w/ SC'er running 3.125 pulley, exhaust, ypipe, vb mod and safc. My friend has a 95 5.0 mustang GT 5spd with an upgraded exhaust. I am pretty sure i could take him. What do you guys think the outcome would be?

 

i raced a 2003 GT stang at the track a few months ago. he beat me in reaction time but on the 330' 600' 1/8 and 1/4 mile i beat him. no problem

 

That's bull****. A bone stock 2002-2003 6-speed will leave any stock 5.0 in the dust. As for modded NA maximas, we've got some 3.0 running high 13s and a 3.5 almost in the 12s.

You will destroy him. Mid 90's 5.0 are the slowest mustangs ever... you'd even beat a foxbody 5.0 with your mods. They are mid/high 14s cars stock.

 

I have owned 4 Mustangs, this is my first Maxima.
You can't touch the mod fun a 5.0 will have. The mods are cheaper and better. Supercharger, turbo choices by multiple manufactures.
The saying "theres no replacement for displacement" has some meaning too!

Anyway the max is fun but I will agree with the others, rear wheel is much better, dollar for dollar a Mustang is hard too beat. Hell you can go on ebay and find used intakes etc. and save a bundle of cash.

As for racing the 1995 Mustang, I had a 95, blahh. Worst one I had, and may the best driver win that race.

Back in my youth I raced a guy in his Saleen, lined up twice vs. my LX 5.0 (I think at the time it only had 3:73 gears, motorsport clutch, exhaust/headers). Anyway he went down hard twice. I love an underdog victory. God did he suck at driving ;-) Practice your launch and getting out of 1st on time.

As for beating peeps in races after 90 mph, I am not sure of the circumstances but if I had you by 3 car lengths @ 90mph its all over. No doubt the Maxima has nice top end but I always tried to keep a little law and order, call the race done when it's done.

 

Slow down here fwd killer. Does he have a 5.5? NO

That is great that Maximas are almost in the 12s, how many Mustangs are there and have been there?

 

Where the hell did I say the max had more potential than a mustang? I didn't. Get your facts straight, this is the quote I was replying to:

>>Maxima owners have always had a weird way of thinking about mustangs, they all think they can beat them or something, they only have a chance against a stock mustang or VERY lightly modded stang (unless the maxima is boosted).<<

Obviously the 5.0 has more potential due to the displacement (they come with really crappy 2.73 gears, too), but alot of NA maximas could beat stock or near stock 5.0, which are only slightly faster than 4th gen and early 5th gen 5-speeds stock, and slower than 5.5 and 6th gens.

 

There have been rumors of bone stock fox body style mustangs running high 13's...

 

Just like some stock 4th gens are running 14.8-14.7. Mag times are never the fastest you can get. Also, I would have a much easier time buying the whole "factory freak" thing on a Ford vehicle from the late 80's than a mid 90's Nissan.

 

This is true. Usually the LX notchback 5 speeds are the freaks. My buddy has one with exhaust and slicks STOCK GEARS and here is the timeslip at a 2200' elevation at LACR which is the WORST track.



Any stock 5.5s with slicks and exhaust running that?



It ran 14.0 @ 98mph with street tires and a trunk full of shiet at a different track.

With heads, intake, cam...good bye to most Maximas, add a blower and slicks and good bye to all.

 

If your talking about me no i don't have a 5.5, i have 5th gen Supercharged.

 

wow, that is a really clean mustang. They are great cars, great all around sports car. (except the top end) I would like to see a 5.5 gen vs. a 5.0 LX coupe race.

 

yeah it is. it only has 72,XXX original miles on it. I know a few people that have five ohs that make power til 8k, you can make high revving small blocks. Stock vs. stock it would be close, but you start modding and the tables turn to the stang.

 

I have owned 3 Mustangs and 2 Maximas. I still own one of each. I am very impressed by both.
The bottom line is a 87-93 LX 5.0 5 speed can run a 14.5 BONE stock, hatch or coupe. Automatics are at least 0.5 slower however. My current Stang runs a 13.9 with VERY FEW mods and no powershifting. 85-86(crappy heads) and 94-95(heavier) Mustangs are slightly slower then listed above. 96-98(first 4.6L) Mustangs are alot slower and have no business racing (when stock) in my opinion. 99 & up Mustangs can run faster then a 14.5.

A lot of people gun for Mustangs because the 5.0 is the old bench mark of fast street cars. There are faster ones now but the stereotype is still there. Theres nothing wrong with that. If you can run a consistant 14.5-14.6 I say your in the ball park to race stock Mustangs. You will be hard pressed to find a stock Mustang now a days though.

 

Slicks obviously don't count. They shave about half a second off the 1/4 mile time so take a stock 5.5 gen 6-speed (say 14.1-14.3) put slicks on it, you get 13.6-13.8. With exhaust a little faster. That's about even with his 13.6 timeslip. Also, 5.5 gen wheels are heavy *** 17's. I believe foxbody stangs come with 15"... shave another tenth or two here.

So the exhaust makes it a bit faster. If stock 6-speeds 5.5 gens can run 14.1-14.3 stock, a 14.0 timeslip is very possible with an exhaust. Where's the big difference.

As for the blower comment, superhcarged maximas a capable of putting down a lot of power. Maybe not potentially sky high like 5.0's, but powerful enough to leave alot of more expensive cars on the highway. And considering it's missing 2 cylinders and 250-500 lbs heavier, it's pretty impressive.



Nice mustang, by the way. I considered buying one like that before my max, but I decided I wanted a sleeper with a nice interior.

 

.50 for slicks is a little too much, it is more like .20-.30, slicks will help rwd more than fwd.

If you take the mods Hal does and do the same thing to a stang, you are seriously looking at a 9/10 second car. Hal barely hit 11s and thats with mostly everything.

fwd sedans cannot compare to rwd coupes on a drag strip .

 

....and Thats The Bottom Line ^^

 

I want that F-ing notch.....

NOW!!!!

 

dude give me a break. 5.5 gens are pretty fast but mod for mod the 5.0 wins. The Mustang's modded exhaust does a HE!! of a lot more than an exhaust for a Maxima, and I'm just talking x pipes.

 

yeah, me too. You should drive that focker, it weighs 2,750lbs in street trim. It still holds all the interior in tact, just no bumper supports, carpet padding, door beams, air conditioning and everything else you can do to lose weight but still have a stock looking car. It has subframe connectors and springs and handles like a dream.

I want one, but will probably have to settle for a hatch, since they are much more plentiful. For now I will just enjoy driving it when my buddy lets me.

 

Did you guys ever race? I wanna know the results?

 

Ya... what he said ^

 

Okay, first off, slicks will give you about .4 to .5 on a maxima. Neal went from 13.83 to 13.43 and many others say similar gains.

Second, Hal got his 11.9 at a whopping 125 miles per hour. 125 and you're in the 10-sec zone if you can lay that power down. Proof? Mardi hit 11.91 at 117 mph, 8 mph less than Hal. 8 mph=a second or almost. Mardi makes 428whp while Hal gets 530whp. 100whp and 120-150wtq more has to be close to a second faster.

Many boosted guys went from low 14 when they first started to low 13s/high 12s only by learning to handle that kind of power.

As for the comment on FWD sedans vs RWD cars; When I compare both, I am talking about street legal cars. Sure, you see RWD "street legal" cars in the 10s and 9s, but let's be honest; how many of these cars are driven more than 2-3 times in the summer in absolutely perfect weather for a short trip?

My dad owns a "street legal" 1973 Pontiac Firebird. It runs 9.37 at 144 mph in the 1/4 mile, and I know exactly what he did to it/how much it cost to make it that fast. The car puts down 690whp and 705wtq (N/A no nitrous) and he worked on it as much as possible to cut costs. When you consider everything minus the paint job, it's around 25,000$CAN (20k US)(and he originally bought it for 600).

It has a locked diff, metal bushings and 4.10 gears, and requires lots and lots of octane, how often do you think he drives his "street legal" (it has legit liscence plate and all) car? He really needs the locked diff down the 1/4 but in curves it's a real *****.

Now I'm not saying a max could be made that fast with slicks and lots of dough... but if you upgraded internals, turbos, got a stupid stiff suspension gutted it to get it down to 2500 pounds... you might not be that far off.

The main thing is that people won't bother building a monster FWD car since RWD is simply better in all aspects for drag racing. Because if people did, aftermarket parts would be much more affordable and available (unlike that ridiculous 4.3-liter stroker kit that cost 7800$ before install) But as far as streetable, everyday cars go (i.e, not fast enough to require a roll bar), no slicks, street tires, there really isn't that much of a difference between FWD and RWD. It's only when you get to trailer queens that RWD completely leaves FWD in the dust.

 

Wow, you have really convinced me that fwd is better...I dont think I am going to ever own a rwd car... :rollseyes:

fwd sucks and really sucks on the track.

 

i'd still rather have my fwd maxima in the rain or snow.

 

with is mods he probably has something like 250-275 motor but his bigger tires will help him hook up alot more than 245 on a FWD car. I go out to my local track all the time and some guy has a 94 with headders h-pipe and 3" to a set of 2 chamber flows also has a redneck homemade intake on it and he runs 13.05 on stret tires and i think they are either 255 or 265. defanatly a drivers race and good luck. I raced a 91 5.0 all i have is a CAI and stock potenza's that are almost bald he had intake exhaust and traction bars and he still couldnt hook up......

I think that the only way you will beat him is at the line dont fall too far back and you should be able to play catch up.......they are quick to the top end too............