'01 IS300 5A vs '00 maxima SE lightly modded
01-25-2005, 08:21 PM
#41
Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
probably a 300
stealthymax, no way in h*ll a is300 could take any vq35 (well a pathfinder lol) but any car vq35 would stomp on an is300....auto vq vs 5spd is
stealthymax, no way in h*ll a is300 could take any vq35 (well a pathfinder lol) but any car vq35 would stomp on an is300....auto vq vs 5spd is
01-25-2005, 08:37 PM
#42
Most of you are making the assumption that the manual IS300 is quicker than the auto IS300 by the same factor as the 5-speed Max is faster than the auto Max. According to our ruling deity, Sprint Max aka Uncle Sprinty, the gearing on manual IS300s is awful and they're as slow if not slower than auto IS300s.... Keep that in mind.
Edit: Here's the link: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=325735
Edit: Here's the link: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=325735
01-25-2005, 09:19 PM
#43
I don't know about you guys but I killed a manual and Auto Is300 two of them to be exact I only had ypipe and CAI and I'm AUTO I pulled about two car lengths and in one of those races I had a passenger and still pulled over a car length.
01-25-2005, 09:31 PM
#44
at around 65 is where the IS starts to pull harder. so if you've raced IS's at around 20-50 roll, you'll be pullin on them pretty hard. but at 65 is where they start to pick up and beginning pulling.
to my understanding, they slowly walk by GT-S's and acura RSX-S on the highway. to be exact, RSX-S and IS-300 are even 'til around 110 and then IS pulls off. but off the line IS will lose.
to my understanding, they slowly walk by GT-S's and acura RSX-S on the highway. to be exact, RSX-S and IS-300 are even 'til around 110 and then IS pulls off. but off the line IS will lose.
01-25-2005, 11:30 PM
#46
sorry, maybe i should have worded it better. I meant if a Max was racing vs an IS, the Max would get the launch, meaning it would be ahead, and then when the cars get up to highway speeds of 70-80, the IS would start to pull to catch up to the Max. The IS would close the gap, but I believe the Max would still always be a little ahead.
01-26-2005, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by steaLthyMax
sorry, maybe i should have worded it better. I meant if a Max was racing vs an IS, the Max would get the launch, meaning it would be ahead, and then when the cars get up to highway speeds of 70-80, the IS would start to pull to catch up to the Max. The IS would close the gap, but I believe the Max would still always be a little ahead.
im just mystifed as to why the less powerful IS300 will dominate on the HWY? im talking about the VQ35 autos here..... 4 or 5spds......vs IS300 autos?
well they run mid 15s auto form, u think they can catch jus from a deadstop, all way to top end, with the gap difference? i would think it would be hard enough to even get ahead, with a EVENLY matched roll on freeway run, with less power?
whats soo speical about their 3rd gear?
01-26-2005, 01:25 AM
#48
I don't think the IS will dominate on the highway. I just think that the IS would start to pull on the Max on the highway at higher rpms because of the powerband. The Max falls off after 5500, whereas the IS keeps making power past 6000.
01-26-2005, 09:51 AM
#49
stealthymax is right, the IS will start pulling at around 70-80 but if the VQ35 and IS were to race street start, VQ35 will win but you can't sum up a car because of it's QUARTER MILE time. yeah IS has mid 15s times but the reason it's that high is because the launch for that car is horrible. it's almost as bad as a civic SI launch. but the highway is where the car begins to pick up power and VVTI plays a part. but if you do ISvs VQ35 from 65-80.... it will be VERY CLOSE, VQ35 might slowly go by and up at 1 car length by 130.
01-26-2005, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by steaLthyMax
I don't think the IS will dominate on the highway. I just think that the IS would start to pull on the Max on the highway at higher rpms because of the powerband. The Max falls off after 5500, whereas the IS keeps making power past 6000.
01-26-2005, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OOmaxSE
stealthymax is right, the IS will start pulling at around 70-80 but if the VQ35 and IS were to race street start, VQ35 will win but you can't sum up a car because of it's QUARTER MILE time. yeah IS has mid 15s times but the reason it's that high is because the launch for that car is horrible. it's almost as bad as a civic SI launch. but the highway is where the car begins to pick up power and VVTI plays a part. but if you do ISvs VQ35 from 65-80.... it will be VERY CLOSE, VQ35 might slowly go by and up at 1 car length by 130.
im starting to think VQ is fallin bit behind honda/toyota.... i mean, they've got the reliablity, resale, durablity, no rattles, smooth rides already.... nissans ONLY objective and advertisment is HORSEPOWER! yet they seem to over rate it bit at times.... tranny doesnt shift as swiftly to get the power down as its suppose to be.... and now a smaller discplacement engine surpasses us higher end?
and as for civic SI's, they might be torqueless, but if u launch it right, and get it into the powerband, they're good for 15.5-15.8s stock..... which isnt bad for ONLY 110torq.... quicker than a cavliar z24 with more torque at least...
01-26-2005, 11:30 PM
#52
it has nothing to do with I6 or V6...its just the way the engine is designed
the VQ35 would win in a 1/4 mile, but we're not talking about that here. We're talking about on a highway, speeds higher than 90..the 2JZ-GE just has a better top end than the VQ35..but how often do u get up to speeds that high. I know I don't.
one thing that Nissan has that other car companies don't is the torque. In everyday driving, especially in the city, the VQ has the advantage.
the VQ35 would win in a 1/4 mile, but we're not talking about that here. We're talking about on a highway, speeds higher than 90..the 2JZ-GE just has a better top end than the VQ35..but how often do u get up to speeds that high. I know I don't.
one thing that Nissan has that other car companies don't is the torque. In everyday driving, especially in the city, the VQ has the advantage.
01-26-2005, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by steaLthyMax
it has nothing to do with I6 or V6...its just the way the engine is designed
the VQ35 would win in a 1/4 mile, but we're not talking about that here. We're talking about on a highway, speeds higher than 90..the 2JZ-GE just has a better top end than the VQ35..but how often do u get up to speeds that high. I know I don't.
one thing that Nissan has that other car companies don't is the torque. In everyday driving, especially in the city, the VQ has the advantage.
the VQ35 would win in a 1/4 mile, but we're not talking about that here. We're talking about on a highway, speeds higher than 90..the 2JZ-GE just has a better top end than the VQ35..but how often do u get up to speeds that high. I know I don't.
one thing that Nissan has that other car companies don't is the torque. In everyday driving, especially in the city, the VQ has the advantage.
because i think with the .5 more litres, its expected.... i take the torque for granted due to bigger engine, but i want the top end as well, hehe
if i were to either have ONLY low end torque, OR top end, i would let it slide, with a 3.0 00-01 engine
but we have a DOHC 24valve 3.5 that should jus as much low end and top!
unlike an american domestic 3.8s that have low end till 50mph then wear off... with only OHV 12valve pushrod...... excusable....
02-22-2005, 08:34 AM
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personally i dont like the IS300 because its expensive and aint worth ****. you will definitely beat it because maximas are better. lol...the thing i just noticed is that u ran a 15.2 at 91 which means u really didnt have a great launch so that means that if u had an awesome launch u would have a 14.9 or 15.0 car. the 5-speed is300 barely runs that which means you will win bro. 
02-24-2005, 09:06 PM
#59
Originally Posted by saqib55
i have always been under the impression taht IS was slower on the hiway, but better off in the city...
Congrats on the 1st post.
02-25-2005, 10:00 AM
#60
Originally Posted by h2kPinkPnthr
personally i dont like the IS300 because its expensive and aint worth ****. you will definitely beat it because maximas are better. lol...the thing i just noticed is that u ran a 15.2 at 91 which means u really didnt have a great launch so that means that if u had an awesome launch u would have a 14.9 or 15.0 car. the 5-speed is300 barely runs that which means you will win bro.
02-25-2005, 12:19 PM
#62
yeah alot of idiots in this thread... stock IS300 is not fast by any means, but to the people that think that your 2k2 maxima is some sort of speed demon, you been picking on little civics too long. the IS has more potential than the maxima if you look at cars the way i do
02-25-2005, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by goodhead
yeah alot of idiots in this thread... stock IS300 is not fast by any means, but to the people that think that your 2k2 maxima is some sort of speed demon, you been picking on little civics too long. the IS has more potential than the maxima if you look at cars the way i do
That said, you can only compare stock w/ stock when comparing car models in general. With mods, typically all bets are off.
As such, the IS300 is NOT particularly quick but not slow either (given it tops out at over 140mph even with the 5AT). That said, the 5.5G will run circles around it under most conditions and especially in the 1/4 mile. From what I've seen at Etown, the IS is hard pressed to run consistent upper 15s, let alone approach 14s like the 5.5G Maxima.
Again, the IS is not a bad car. But, I'd rather save $5k and get an Acura TSX, which performs similarly and only has an NA 4 cylinder motor (K24A).
02-25-2005, 01:32 PM
#64
my next car will be boosted, i was gonna boost my 4th gen but i lost interest, so from my point of view the is300 is a better platform to start with with more headroom to expand with, i have dreams of a gte shortblock IS with a getrag 6. i drove an eshift at the dealership a few weeks back for the first time and compared to the 2k2 3.5 altima it was more fun to drive and handles/rides way better, not as much punch but i learned hp is something you can add to a car pretty easily but trying to make my 4th gen handle and ride well is something i gave up on, the big boat feeling is and will always be there, cant do anythign about it . the 2nd gen IS should be revealed soon and i hear good things about them, toyota seems to always been conservative with hp in their engine (nissan always gave you more engine) but i heard to compete with the newer m3 and s4 they are gonna step up there game 
never been a honda fan so no love for the acura either,
never been a honda fan so no love for the acura either,
02-27-2005, 04:14 PM
#65
Originally Posted by F23A4
By definition, the term 'speed demon' would be the person behind the wheel, not the car itself.
That said, you can only compare stock w/ stock when comparing car models in general. With mods, typically all bets are off.
As such, the IS300 is NOT particularly quick but not slow either (given it tops out at over 140mph even with the 5AT). That said, the 5.5G will run circles around it under most conditions and especially in the 1/4 mile. From what I've seen at Etown, the IS is hard pressed to run consistent upper 15s, let alone approach 14s like the 5.5G Maxima.
Again, the IS is not a bad car. But, I'd rather save $5k and get an Acura TSX, which performs similarly and only has an NA 4 cylinder motor (K24A).
That said, you can only compare stock w/ stock when comparing car models in general. With mods, typically all bets are off.
As such, the IS300 is NOT particularly quick but not slow either (given it tops out at over 140mph even with the 5AT). That said, the 5.5G will run circles around it under most conditions and especially in the 1/4 mile. From what I've seen at Etown, the IS is hard pressed to run consistent upper 15s, let alone approach 14s like the 5.5G Maxima.
Again, the IS is not a bad car. But, I'd rather save $5k and get an Acura TSX, which performs similarly and only has an NA 4 cylinder motor (K24A).
02-28-2005, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
I don't think a TSX is that close in performance to an IS300, and I don't think it's RWD.
02-28-2005, 06:47 AM
#67
Originally Posted by anthunny
much faster, espeically on the HWY... are you sure it wasnt a GS300?
300hp low 14sec beast V8
300hp low 14sec beast V8
02-28-2005, 06:55 AM
#68
In the end it comes down to STOCK for STOCK. You guys are looking at ratings and how fast they car, Yes the car DOES that with a Good driver who knows how to drive. You put 2 amature drivers in there there times will suffer therefore god knows who will win. Lexus have a nice start from the dig but im sure they arent ment for racing from 70+. Its a lux car not a 100% sports car. You will not feel as much power in a 300hp lexus compaired to a LS1 300+ hp motor. You feel the power in a real car that is ment for power and racing. 300hp for lexus is to the crank by the time it goes to the wheel and considering all the weight to the car well then its not a lot. They prob have the zap when your starting off and then dont have that power when you hit 70. They arent race cars. The gear ratio plays a big factor in it as well as the drivers. I love lexus dont get me wrong they are awsome cars just like bmw 330ci they are all lux sports cars. Let me tell you the bmw 330ci is very quick off the line but suffers on the highway it doesnt move as quick, My friend has one ive been in it many times. It there gearing.
02-28-2005, 10:32 AM
#70
Gs400 weights how much? Its a RWD car that pretty heavy full lux and gearing box is made for cruising not for racing you have 300hp to the Crank 15-20% of it is lost by the time it get to the rear wheels.. On the highway you do not expect to pull to 100 like a modded car that has diff gear ratios. With auto all you gotta do is step on the gas but how come everytime you race stock for stock same car with auto someone wins? therefore you can't say that all you do is step on the gas im sure people use a way to make the tranny go into another gear without the delay. Like I said it depends on the driver. Gs400 is not geared for racing.
02-28-2005, 10:43 AM
#71
This was originally about a modded 5speed Maxima vs. a stock 5A Lexus.
Like you all know, the VQ30DE-K pull continue to pull to 6,400rpms where the HP curve levels off vs. the 2JZ-GE engine in the Lexus that falls off at about 5,700rpms. 3rd gear on the 5speed Maxima is also a sweet spot as well as Lexus. That being said, a modded 5speed Maxima VQ30DE-K should have no problems with a stock 5A Lexus anywhere unless the Maxima driver is that incompetent. But there are no rolling races on a drag strip so you must be talking about SCCA? In which case, there is a subforum for that topic to be discussed.
Like you all know, the VQ30DE-K pull continue to pull to 6,400rpms where the HP curve levels off vs. the 2JZ-GE engine in the Lexus that falls off at about 5,700rpms. 3rd gear on the 5speed Maxima is also a sweet spot as well as Lexus. That being said, a modded 5speed Maxima VQ30DE-K should have no problems with a stock 5A Lexus anywhere unless the Maxima driver is that incompetent. But there are no rolling races on a drag strip so you must be talking about SCCA? In which case, there is a subforum for that topic to be discussed.
04-04-2005, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by OOmaxSE
my friend just bought a lexus IS300 (5A) and he says it's not so great off the line but on the highway it's quick. he says his car keeps up with 350Z's on the freeway (350Z slowly/barely walks ahead) will his car beat me from 35mph? i have y-pipe, centerforce clutch, and STS in my 2000 maxima SE 5spd. he's stock.
Beat him by .1 seconds!
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