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tavarish Apr 22, 2006 07:47 AM

Something's wrong with my car.
 
Hey, it was my first time at the track, and the best I could do was a 15.1 at 91.51 mph. I also could not get past a 2.3xx 60'. My clutch was slipping, but i thought i could at least get into the 14's. i have a 1998 GLE fully loaded, converted to 5spd, y-pipe, no spare tire, no jack, ADR 17", 17lbs each, (did have a wooden board in the trunk, but i doubt that made any diff), on a slipping ACT stage 1 clutch. I took out my subs for the track run.

A friend from the .org showed up for his first time at the track as well, and his FIRST RUN was a 14.8 with a 2.3 60', and a slipping clutch.

Before my car went to the track, it started making a weird ticking noise.

I'm gonna track my car again, but I hope to get into the 14's. what do you reccommend, as far as mods, weight reduction? I'm only keeping the VQ30 for about one more month until i do the 3.5 swap.

Thanks,
-Freddy

Nealoc187 Apr 22, 2006 08:29 AM

How bad is the clutch slipping? That is the most important question. If it's slipping significantly then your run was botched from the beginning so your 1/4 mile doesn't necessesarily indicate a problem (besides the slipping clutch).

tavarish Apr 22, 2006 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Nealoc187
How bad is the clutch slipping? That is the most important question. If it's slipping significantly then your run was botched from the beginning so your 1/4 mile doesn't necessesarily indicate a problem (besides the slipping clutch).

I didn't chirp any gear, and it was slipping pretty considerably.

I verified this, and it WASNT an ACT Stage 1, it was a Daikin OEM replacement clutch. (Key Value)

Zack342 Apr 22, 2006 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by tavarish
Hey, it was my first time at the track, and the best I could do was a 15.1 at 91.51 mph. I also could not get past a 2.3xx 60'. My clutch was slipping, but i thought i could at least get into the 14's. i have a 1998 GLE fully loaded, converted to 5spd, y-pipe, no spare tire, no jack, ADR 17", 17lbs each, (did have a wooden board in the trunk, but i doubt that made any diff), on a slipping ACT stage 1 clutch. I took out my subs for the track run.

A friend from the .org showed up for his first time at the track as well, and his FIRST RUN was a 14.8 with a 2.3 60', and a slipping clutch.

Before my car went to the track, it started making a weird ticking noise.

I'm gonna track my car again, but I hope to get into the 14's. what do you reccommend, as far as mods, weight reduction? I'm only keeping the VQ30 for about one more month until i do the 3.5 swap.

Thanks,
-Freddy


Your trap seems a tad low. I think your trap does confirm your time. what did your friend trap when he ran 14.8?

tedo007 Apr 23, 2006 12:22 AM

did you lets your car cool down befor you ran it. you got catback? get catback you might see some better result with it

liqidvenom Apr 23, 2006 02:24 PM

i got a 94.?mph trap when i ran the 14.8, but i think that the track was very cold and that hurt the people that were on street tires...ill post up my slips later if anyone cares. ohh i also had a 2.3?? 60' on that first pass.

tavarish Apr 23, 2006 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by tedo007
did you lets your car cool down befor you ran it. you got catback? get catback you might see some better result with it

no catback, stock exhaust with bad exhaust leak.

tavarish Apr 23, 2006 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by liqidvenom
i got a 94.?mph trap when i ran the 14.8, but i think that the track was very cold and that hurt the people that were on street tires...ill post up my slips later if anyone cares. ohh i also had a 2.3?? 60' on that first pass.

i'm gonna run on my stock sawblades when i go again, and i'm taking out my backseat, and passenger's seat.

MaxFanatik Apr 23, 2006 07:34 PM

fred, i think its the slipping clutch, maybe the fac tu dont hvae more airry exhaust flow can be kickin u back a bit GL next time

MaxFanatik Apr 23, 2006 07:34 PM

fred, i think its the slipping clutch, maybe the fac tu dont hvae more airry exhaust flow can be kickin u back a bit GL next time

MaximA StyLeZ Apr 24, 2006 08:37 PM

I also ran at EnglishTown, I ran a 14.75 @92.3 w/ a 2.37 60'. Don't you guys think my trap is low as well ? How could I run I think a good time with such a crappy 60' and trap? MODs: Y-pipe/Short Ram/Cat-back Sawblades.

liqidvenom Apr 24, 2006 10:17 PM

not sure..u must have managed to leave the line and pull hard then maybe slow up a bit.

tavarish Apr 25, 2006 08:30 AM

f'ucking factory freaks, is what it is.

C MAX Apr 25, 2006 09:10 AM

tavarish is this your first run on the track, if so there are many factors that make your time. if you have run before and more than once then what were those numbers before if any? 15.1 isnt that bad considering a better take off could yield you a 14.9 which aint bad at all. i ran a 14.6 once and turned around and ran a 13.1 right behind it all because my first launch was horrible, but my mph remained the same 103-106mph. 92mph is just about right for your poer output. a 96 trap and up would put you in the 230hp range.

SDot82 Apr 25, 2006 11:17 AM

I must suck because all I could manage was 14.6 @ 98 in the 1/4 (that was without the nitrous only 00VI, intake, and y-pipe).

C MAX Apr 25, 2006 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by SDot82
I must suck because all I could manage was 14.6 @ 98 in the 1/4 (that was without the nitrous only 00VI, intake, and y-pipe).

humn that trap sounds like a 60 shot, you sure thats without nitrous. what is your n/a hp.

liqidvenom Apr 25, 2006 01:52 PM

98mph is a great trap for a 4th gen....wat was ur launch strategy and u have a slip to post

tavarish Apr 25, 2006 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by C MAX
tavarish is this your first run on the track, if so there are many factors that make your time. if you have run before and more than once then what were those numbers before if any? 15.1 isnt that bad considering a better take off could yield you a 14.9 which aint bad at all. i ran a 14.6 once and turned around and ran a 13.1 right behind it all because my first launch was horrible, but my mph remained the same 103-106mph. 92mph is just about right for your poer output. a 96 trap and up would put you in the 230hp range.

yea, it was my first run at the track. I guess i gotta get me some more mods (read: DECENT , non-TICKING ENGINE) so I can get a better slip next time I go. I know with 200whp, you can get into the 13's with a good driver.

SDot82 Apr 25, 2006 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by C MAX
humn that trap sounds like a 60 shot, you sure thats without nitrous. what is your n/a hp.

That was right before I got the nitrous its all VI :grinno: , n/a is 173hp 190tq but the afr was below 10. I have a VAFC program tuned for 13.2 but took it out for this dyno to see what my afr would be without it (for the nitrous later). So plan and simple I don't know what my hp is with my VAFC program.

Zack342 Apr 25, 2006 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by tavarish
yea, it was my first run at the track. I guess i gotta get me some more mods (read: DECENT , non-TICKING ENGINE) so I can get a better slip next time I go. I know with 200whp, you can get into the 13's with a good driver.

orly......200whp you say

SDot82 Apr 25, 2006 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by liqidvenom
98mph is a great trap for a 4th gen....wat was ur launch strategy and u have a slip to post


Well this is the only one I could find its almost 98 if you round up:bonk: :slap: ...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...2/timeslip.jpg

C MAX Apr 25, 2006 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by SDot82
Well this is the only one I could find its almost 98 if you round up:bonk: :slap: ...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...2/timeslip.jpg

if thats all motor you got a good amount of power there, you maintained maximum power thru the last 1/8th. either way pretty decent numbers

t6378tp Apr 25, 2006 06:49 PM

I went this past friday and ran
60ft 2.374
330 6.622
1/8 10.093
1/4 15.713
mph 84.89
I think somethings wrong, I ran a 16.373 at 83mph 2 runs before with a 2.598 60ft

tavarish Apr 26, 2006 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by zack342
orly......200whp you say

krismax ran a 13.8 with similar mods to yours.

tavarish Apr 26, 2006 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by t6378tp
I went this past friday and ran
60ft 2.374
330 6.622
1/8 10.093
1/4 15.713
mph 84.89
I think somethings wrong, I ran a 16.373 at 83mph 2 runs before with a 2.598 60ft

if you're auto that's fine. Get a better 60' (easier said than done), and you'll see a better slip. Trap is a bit slow though.

tedo007 Apr 28, 2006 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by t6378tp
I went this past friday and ran
60ft 2.374
330 6.622
1/8 10.093
1/4 15.713
mph 84.89
I think somethings wrong, I ran a 16.373 at 83mph 2 runs before with a 2.598 60ft

that shows that you need more practice you said you ran before with 2.598 60 ft and you got lil bit better and ran 2.3 60ft. get that 60ft in 2.2 you be in 9's in 1/8 mile and you'll get around 15.5 in 1/4 mile

pod97654 Apr 28, 2006 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by SDot82
Well this is the only one I could find its almost 98 if you round up:bonk: :slap: ...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...2/timeslip.jpg

Wow, what a timeslip. this is hard to understand. i am curently run a consistant 14.75 at 93.9mph, with a 2.3 60'. how can we have a similar 60' similar 1/4 and you end at 98mph? did you miss a gear? The only mods i curently have is a stillen y-pipe and a short ram intake. And h*ll i think if i get my launch perfect i could see 14.5.

jmeister Apr 28, 2006 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by tavarish
krismax ran a 13.8 with similar mods to yours.

Was that with his no rev limiter & serious weight reduction?

liqidvenom Apr 28, 2006 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by tavarish
krismax ran a 13.8 with similar mods to yours.

he also gutted his car and had a pathy tb if i recall

tavarish Apr 28, 2006 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by jmeister
Was that with his no rev limiter & serious weight reduction?

rev limit at 8k, and some weight reduction, but nothing seriously bad, i've been in his car, it had a full interior.

He also had a 00vi, and i doubt it makes any useable power at 8k rpms, so the rev limit that far up would be pretty much negligiblie, and valve float would be an issue.

tavarish Apr 28, 2006 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by liqidvenom
he also gutted his car and had a pathy tb if i recall


will you do NOT have the dirtiest 4th gen in jersey.

liqidvenom Apr 28, 2006 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by tavarish
rev limit at 8k, and some weight reduction, but nothing seriously bad, i've been in his car, it had a full interior.

He also had a 00vi, and i doubt it makes any useable power at 8k rpms, so the rev limit that far up would be pretty much negligiblie, and valve float would be an issue.

i dont think that valve float would be that big of an issue and the 00vi makes probally worlds more power at 8k then the usim


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