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Old May 17, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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14.05 @ 97.70 mph - Naturally Aspirated

Timeslip:

2.01 - 60'
5.84 - 330'
9.00 - 1/8 ET
78.44 - 1/8 MPH
14.05 - 1/4 ET
97.70 - 1/4 MPH

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JWT ECU - 7600 rev cut
V-AFC II - untuned
Budget Y-pipe
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70mm Pathfinder TB
2.25 " Catback w/ a gutted/rotted cat and an Altima 3.5 muffler
Exedy Stage II Clutch

Suspension/Tires:
KSport Coilovers
26" x 9.50"/15 Hoosier Quick Time Pros on Millenia wheels


Well, I just need to figure out where I should be shifting and I do believe I can pull some 13's n/a. I could've been cutting some 1.9x 60's for sure but the rear coilovers need to be adjusted big time. The car was barking the slicks off the line pretty bad on the launch, which was a 4500 rpm clutch dump. So, yea I definitely gotta pull the suspension apart before I go back to the track.
Old May 17, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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I know you got a video somewhere.. Still want that secret juice?? lol
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i feel like w/ those mods you could hit that time even on street tires right? maybe try tuning? are you using the '00 injectors?
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Originally Posted by gtr_rider
I know you got a video somewhere.. Still want that secret juice?? lol

i found another nitrous kit brand new still in the package for $200 I might pick up. i'll try and get some video this friday night when i go.

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i feel like w/ those mods you could hit that time even on street tires right? maybe try tuning? are you using the '00 injectors?
yea i probably could but i'd really rather not burn those tires up. The car definitely needs a little dyno tuning especially since it has the '00 injectors. After thats done i'll know exactly where to shift at. I also need to tune in the suspension so the weight transfer isn't so ridiculous.
Old May 17, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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i found another nitrous kit brand new still in the package for $200 I might pick up. i'll try and get some video this friday night when i go.

dont forget the fart can..
Old May 17, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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dont forget the fart can..

I haven't. still waiting on the black car to sell. got a lot of interested people but nobody showing me any cash.
Old May 17, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Nice ET.

What's your car weigh?

So you actually got JWT to give you 7600 huh... lol
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Nice time. Did you try launching harder? You should definately be able to with your clutch and those tires.
Old May 18, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
Nice ET.

What's your car weigh?

So you actually got JWT to give you 7600 huh... lol
dunno, never weighed my car. I think the track I'm going to tomorrow night has some scales and I'll see about throwing it on then. I bought the ECU from Blu and he had them put in the 7600.

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Nice time. Did you try launching harder? You should definately be able to with your clutch and those tires.

I didn't even think about trying to launch harder because I could really feel the weight unloading off of the front tires. I 'should' be off from work friday and plan on stiffening the rear coilovers up nice and tight. so i will hopefully see some 1.9x 60's.
Old May 18, 2006 | 03:51 AM
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Nice times. I'd be interested to see what it puts down after it's tuned. You really think you're getting any useful power over 7000?
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WHat are you shifting at? 7200?
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I didn't even think about trying to launch harder because I could really feel the weight unloading off of the front tires. I 'should' be off from work friday and plan on stiffening the rear coilovers up nice and tight. so i will hopefully see some 1.9x 60's.

What rear suspension do you have right now?
Old May 18, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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What rear suspension do you have right now?
He has KSport Coilovers.
Old May 18, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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hey nice times jason....definitely get the v-afcii tuned! i'm sure you can squeeze solid whp from a good tune

oh yeah, what do you mean by making your rear coilovers stiffer? do you mean "adding" more preload or something?
Old May 18, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Timeslip:

2.01 - 60'
5.84 - 330'
9.00 - 1/8 ET
78.44 - 1/8 MPH
14.05 - 1/4 ET
97.70 - 1/4 MPH


dood what was your best run with USIM , I forget. Trying to get an idea of how much the 00vi is doing for you in its untuned state.
Old May 18, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
Nice times. I'd be interested to see what it puts down after it's tuned. You really think you're getting any useful power over 7000?
not much over 7k. i tried shifting up near 7500 and it just yielded slower times.

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WHat are you shifting at? 7200?
on that run i shifted at ~7k i think. ha.

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What rear suspension do you have right now?
Ksports. didn't really mess with the preload on them at all. my Sprint/AGX combo was much stiffer and I was able to pull a couple of 1.9 60's with that setup. I figure if I can get these KSports just as stiff if not a little stiffer then I could probably pull off some better 60s.

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hey nice times jason....definitely get the v-afcii tuned! i'm sure you can squeeze solid whp from a good tune

oh yeah, what do you mean by making your rear coilovers stiffer? do you mean "adding" more preload or something?
yea, i'm gonna add more preload this weekend. I was gonna do it tomorrow but I just found out I gotta work Friday and saturday. Thats ok though because its all overtime. I probably won't get around to it until sunday. I might see if i can't knock it out saturday night and just hit up the track sunday and do a little bracket racing as well.

Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
Timeslip:

2.01 - 60'
5.84 - 330'
9.00 - 1/8 ET
78.44 - 1/8 MPH
14.05 - 1/4 ET
97.70 - 1/4 MPH


dood what was your best run with USIM , I forget. Trying to get an idea of how much the 00vi is doing for you in its untuned state.
I can't find my best timeslip with the USIM so I can't remember all the details of it. I just know it was a 14.25 @ 95.38 mph. I'm sure I can pull off some 13.80's with full interior. I just gotta keep them slicks from spinning the little bit that they do spin when I launch at 4500+ rpms.
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Do you plan to just add more preload to the rear? what about the fronts? just leave them as it is?

I should give this a shot when I'm at the track next time....stiffen my rear suspension...and max out my psi in the rear tires
Old May 18, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by steven88
Do you plan to just add more preload to the rear? what about the fronts? just leave them as it is?

I should give this a shot when I'm at the track next time....stiffen my rear suspension...and max out my psi in the rear tires

i'm just gonna try stiffening the rears for right now and depending on how the car feels when it leaves i will try to adjust it accordingly.
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
. my Sprint/AGX combo was much stiffer and I was able to pull a couple of 1.9 60's with that setup. I figure if I can get these KSports just as stiff if not a little stiffer then I could probably pull off some better 60s.
You sure about that? A progressive lowering spring is stiffer than a linear coilover spring? I dunno about that...
Old May 18, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
You sure about that? A progressive lowering spring is stiffer than a linear coilover spring? I dunno about that...

it felt a little stiffer and definitely yielded better 60' times. the car is transferring enough wait for me to spin the slicks right on the launch. I'm sure the actual sping of the coilover itself is stiffer but I am sure I don't have enough preload on them to help keep the car from transferring so much weight.
Old May 18, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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hey where'd you get your vafc2 from and how much? i'm installin an 00vi setup like yours soon and will get a vafc2 as well. i'll be happy w/ a 1/4mile time like yours
Old May 18, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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i got my VAFC-II used for $140
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
it felt a little stiffer and definitely yielded better 60' times. the car is transferring enough wait for me to spin the slicks right on the launch. I'm sure the actual sping of the coilover itself is stiffer but I am sure I don't have enough preload on them to help keep the car from transferring so much weight.
hey so how much preload are you currently running?

as for me...my fronts are about 2 spins after the "snug" position...the rears are exactly at "snug"
Old May 18, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by steven88
hey so how much preload are you currently running?

as for me...my fronts are about 2 spins after the "snug" position...the rears are exactly at "snug"

eh, i dunno right off hand. i might try and start on them tomorrow night when i get home but i dunno. I might go to the track anyways and then adjust the suspension and go again on sunday.
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I think your car has more in the launch right now, without altering the suspension at all. Stiffening the rear will help even more, but just because you are spinning the slicks off the line doesn't mean anything. When you dump the clutch, one of three things will happen - a) your clutch spins against the flywheel a bit (clutch slipping a bit), b) your tires will spin, c) you will bog.

Of course if you are going to stiffen the rear up more then it's a moot point, might as well do it, but there is no doubt in my mind that if you launched at a higher rpm you would cut a better 60'. Try launching it from redline next time and see what happens Actually the way I figured out my launch RPM was by just increasing the RPM 500 each time, starting at like 3000. I came to find that 5500 was best for me, any higher and the clutch would slip on the launch and overheat, any lower and the car would not get out as hard.
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I just step on the peddle on the right to get my 1.9s.

But it's nice to see your times dropping UNCDood. We gotta line them up one day! It would make for some nice videos.
Old May 19, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I think your car has more in the launch right now, without altering the suspension at all. Stiffening the rear will help even more, but just because you are spinning the slicks off the line doesn't mean anything. When you dump the clutch, one of three things will happen - a) your clutch spins against the flywheel a bit (clutch slipping a bit), b) your tires will spin, c) you will bog.

Of course if you are going to stiffen the rear up more then it's a moot point, might as well do it, but there is no doubt in my mind that if you launched at a higher rpm you would cut a better 60'. Try launching it from redline next time and see what happens Actually the way I figured out my launch RPM was by just increasing the RPM 500 each time, starting at like 3000. I came to find that 5500 was best for me, any higher and the clutch would slip on the launch and overheat, any lower and the car would not get out as hard.
good advice. I'll give that a try on sunday and see what happens. looks like i'll be starting off at 5k rpm this time.

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I just step on the peddle on the right to get my 1.9s.

But it's nice to see your times dropping UNCDood. We gotta line them up one day! It would make for some nice videos.

thanks. and you let me know a date and i will definitely try to make it down there.
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thanks. and you let me know a date and i will definitely try to make it down there.
That would be fun! I am not racing my car right now. But if you came down for a track meet or something, I would try my best to attend. I love racing cars that are close to mine as far as ETs.
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poop, how can you disgrace my parts with 14 second runs? haha nice run you will get the launch figured out eventually it just takes practice. Launching on slicks isn't as easy as some think.
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poop, how can you disgrace my parts with 14 second runs? haha nice run you will get the launch figured out eventually it just takes practice. Launching on slicks isn't as easy as some think.

haha, shut it bish. I was planning on doing to the track tomorrow but thats a no go as I will be working down in Roanoke Rapids, NC for most of the day. I guess I'll just have to wait and try some 5k RPM launches until friday.
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Originally Posted by UNCDooD
Timeslip:

2.01 - 60'
5.84 - 330'
9.00 - 1/8 ET
78.44 - 1/8 MPH
14.05 - 1/4 ET
97.70 - 1/4 MPH

Mods:
'00 VI
JWT ECU - 7600 rev cut
V-AFC II - untuned
Budget Y-pipe
DMS UDP
70mm Pathfinder TB
2.25 " Catback w/ a gutted/rotted cat and an Altima 3.5 muffler
Exedy Stage II Clutch

Suspension/Tires:
KSport Coilovers
26" x 9.50"/15 Hoosier Quick Time Pros on Millenia wheels


Well, I just need to figure out where I should be shifting and I do believe I can pull some 13's n/a. I could've been cutting some 1.9x 60's for sure but the rear coilovers need to be adjusted big time. The car was barking the slicks off the line pretty bad on the launch, which was a 4500 rpm clutch dump. So, yea I definitely gotta pull the suspension apart before I go back to the track.


hy I have 98' Max QX- european version VQ30DE autom. and I have Y-pipe, Apexi cone and still running on 1/4=16.1.s. speed-86.8mph and my 60 feet=2.545.s.
I am astonished that its so slow. it should be faster.
By the way if you put y.pipe instead the OE y-pipe with pre cats, doesn't you loose the resistance that is needed for y-pipe for maximum power.?
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hy I have 98' Max QX- european version VQ30DE autom. and I have Y-pipe, Apexi cone and still running on 1/4=16.1.s. speed-86.8mph and my 60 feet=2.545.s.
I am astonished that its so slow. it should be faster.
By the way if you put y.pipe instead the OE y-pipe with pre cats, doesn't you loose the resistance that is needed for y-pipe for maximum power.?

your speed is not that bad, could just be the weather conditions. your 60' time was really bad though and that's why your time is so bad. If you'd pulled a 2.3 60' time you would have probably run around 15.6 or so. what were the weather conditions like and what is the altitude where you ran, I can't even tell what country you are in hehe.

to answer your other question, aftermarket ypipe outperforms the stock ypipe in every way. exhaust resistance is bad.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
your speed is not that bad, could just be the weather conditions. your 60' time was really bad though and that's why your time is so bad. If you'd pulled a 2.3 60' time you would have probably run around 15.6 or so. what were the weather conditions like and what is the altitude where you ran, I can't even tell what country you are in hehe.

to answer your other question, aftermarket ypipe outperforms the stock ypipe in every way. exhaust resistance is bad.
I am from Estonia, I hope you know where it is loacated anyway far from US.
Weather was shiny, little bit windy. When I took off I had revved it until 2000 revs. But seems like original intake was sharper, compared to Apexi.
Apexi should breathe better? Does it gets too much warm air into combustion?
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
your speed is not that bad, could just be the weather conditions. your 60' time was really bad though and that's why your time is so bad. If you'd pulled a 2.3 60' time you would have probably run around 15.6 or so. what were the weather conditions like and what is the altitude where you ran, I can't even tell what country you are in hehe.

to answer your other question, aftermarket ypipe outperforms the stock ypipe in every way. exhaust resistance is bad.
But there should be exhaust resistance to help gases flow better in non turbo
engine? And stock exhaust resistance is better than aftermarket y-pipe?
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yeah dood just to have slapped it on and knocked off a .2 is very nice !! keep it up !
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Originally Posted by KK1
hy I have 98' Max QX- european version VQ30DE autom. and I have Y-pipe, Apexi cone and still running on 1/4=16.1.s. speed-86.8mph and my 60 feet=2.545.s.
I am astonished that its so slow. it should be faster.
you definitely need to work on the 60ft time. It's all in a good launch for the auto.
I used to trap 88 and 15.87 with my 99 cali spec auto with injen intake and (cali-spec) y-pipe.

Hey What's Up to all the enthusiasts in Estonia! I have a few friends in Ukraine with the QX too!


Awesome times! I hope to pull off low 14's with my mods, still haven't been to the track since 00vi went in.
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bah jason thats pathetic..





sike.. good runs man. wish i was still around to see your ride. you definately need to get some videos flowing..
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i'm working on it. i got some videos on the way from last night bought it was ridiculously humid out so the car wasn't quite up to par.



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