a33 vq30de-k 1/4 mile
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01-12-2007, 01:10 PM
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Put most of the quality bolt ons and a decent driver in the car, at a good track with good weather conditions and you could probably pull off some 14.3s. With some slicks you could do even better.
01-12-2007, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by grey99max
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Lots of nitrous ......
Lots of nitrous ......
I'll just save up for a 3.5 swap instead of purchasing boltons. Not really into having tons of power... Just enought to hang with stock SR20det guys.
01-12-2007, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hayai240sx
Thanks for the reply guys. Not into nitrous at all (personal preference).
I'll just save up for a 3.5 swap instead of purchasing boltons. Not really into having tons of power... Just enought to hang with stock SR20det guys.
I'll just save up for a 3.5 swap instead of purchasing boltons. Not really into having tons of power... Just enought to hang with stock SR20det guys.
I said the same thing until I took the plunge. When you get the first hit its all over from there......
01-12-2007, 11:36 PM
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theres a couple hundred easy LB's in every car get at them. and a 3.5 swap for the money is the best mod .
I know i dont have a 5th gen but look at my sig and youll get a idea about the 3.5 and its power
I know i dont have a 5th gen but look at my sig and youll get a idea about the 3.5 and its power
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01-15-2007, 10:57 PM
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no...the 4th gen's are around 3090lbs curb weight 5spd SE...and the 5th gen's 5spd SE's are around 3199lbs...so about 109lbs heavier...don't know about the autos though...
with full bolt-ons and minor weight reduction (about 100lbs or so), you could pull low 14's all day I would think with good weather conditions and a good launch on street tires...you could break into the high 13's on slicks and with emanage ultimate tune, if you manage to hit hp #'s like dandymax on his de-k 4th gen (about 240whp) I could see mid 13's on slicks with a good launch and the two step limiter...any faster than that would require 3.5, FI, or the bottle...or more weight reduction...
if you look in the moderated slip forum section, you will see what people are getting with what mods and what conditions...there are some A33 5spds getting 15.2's bone stock but with horrible 60ft times...2.4-2.5's...
one guy on there has a A33 5spd with a 15.2 5spd and took nothing out...leaving his sub box, spare, amps, etc.
I know that a stock 5spd will put down about 180-185whp stock...and you can get somewhere in the area of 240 with full bolt-ons and emanage ultimate...
simple rule for years have always held that if you can put the power down....every 10hp increase will result in a .1 second reduction in 1/4 times and every 100lbs. off the car will shed .1 seconds as well...of course this rule is never perfect, but seems to be somewhat accurate in most respects....of course if that extra 10hp is not useable or sacrifices needed power somewhere else in the powerband or causes a more difficult launch, then the extra power will only increase your times...
with full bolt-ons and minor weight reduction (about 100lbs or so), you could pull low 14's all day I would think with good weather conditions and a good launch on street tires...you could break into the high 13's on slicks and with emanage ultimate tune, if you manage to hit hp #'s like dandymax on his de-k 4th gen (about 240whp) I could see mid 13's on slicks with a good launch and the two step limiter...any faster than that would require 3.5, FI, or the bottle...or more weight reduction...
if you look in the moderated slip forum section, you will see what people are getting with what mods and what conditions...there are some A33 5spds getting 15.2's bone stock but with horrible 60ft times...2.4-2.5's...
one guy on there has a A33 5spd with a 15.2 5spd and took nothing out...leaving his sub box, spare, amps, etc.
I know that a stock 5spd will put down about 180-185whp stock...and you can get somewhere in the area of 240 with full bolt-ons and emanage ultimate...
simple rule for years have always held that if you can put the power down....every 10hp increase will result in a .1 second reduction in 1/4 times and every 100lbs. off the car will shed .1 seconds as well...of course this rule is never perfect, but seems to be somewhat accurate in most respects....of course if that extra 10hp is not useable or sacrifices needed power somewhere else in the powerband or causes a more difficult launch, then the extra power will only increase your times...
01-16-2007, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelnyden
no...the 4th gen's are around 3090lbs curb weight 5spd SE...and the 5th gen's 5spd SE's are around 3199lbs...so about 109lbs heavier...don't know about the autos though....
5th gens weight 3200 base curb weight and 3220 for 5.5 gens, both for manuals. My mom drives a fully loaded auto 2003 SE with every single option imaginable and it certainly weights over 3300.
Look at the times that 4.5 gens (3.5 4th gens) are running with no VTCs and stock 3.0 ECUs and you will definately understand that there is a fairly significant weight difference. My previously mentionned 95 SE would trap 104-105 mph all day with a 3.5+full exhaust and very little weight reduction.
01-16-2007, 08:51 AM
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the weights...I was just going off of edmunds and road and old road and tracks I have laying around....it seems as if the 4th gens were lighter than most magazines and websites have it at...
you can find timeslips along with mod listing and conditions in the moderated slips section of the 1/4 1/8 mile racing forum here...http://forums.maxima.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46
you can find timeslips along with mod listing and conditions in the moderated slips section of the 1/4 1/8 mile racing forum here...http://forums.maxima.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46
01-16-2007, 11:11 PM
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I hate to bring up this toolbox loser a$$hat (can you tell I don't like him), but Russ went 14.8 or 14.9 stock back in the day if I recall correctly (this was back before most of you guys were on here). I remember it was a very similar time to what my 96 ran stock (14.87).
As far as the weight of 4th gens is concerned, I'm not sure where the discrepancies in reported weights comes from. I've seen some pretty hefty weights listed for 4th gens even by people on here that have weighed their cars personally. Mine have been weighed on multiple scales at multiple tracks and they've always been consistent on all scales. My 95 GXE has no weight reduction besides a missing grille and some clear coat weighs 2970lbs. That is with no spare or jack, with 1/4 tank of gas.
edit: just looked it up, he went 14.83 @ 94.6 stock. god I'm glad that guy is gone...
As far as the weight of 4th gens is concerned, I'm not sure where the discrepancies in reported weights comes from. I've seen some pretty hefty weights listed for 4th gens even by people on here that have weighed their cars personally. Mine have been weighed on multiple scales at multiple tracks and they've always been consistent on all scales. My 95 GXE has no weight reduction besides a missing grille and some clear coat weighs 2970lbs. That is with no spare or jack, with 1/4 tank of gas.
edit: just looked it up, he went 14.83 @ 94.6 stock. god I'm glad that guy is gone...
01-17-2007, 12:40 PM
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i've run a 13.9 at 102 with ypipe back exhaust gab and 75 shot untuned on 16" stock wheels with really crappy tires, i cut a 2.4 60ft. i think that since my car is tuned now and i have better tires and suspension on a 75 shot my car could run mid 13's and if i get lucky a low 13. traction powns me. this season i'm putting in an lsd tranny with light weight flywheel better clutch and a 125 shot and looking for 12's hopefully.
on motor my best has been a 15 flat at 95. car wasn't running right at all, the a/f was in the 11's to 10.5 which is insanely rich so i think i can get a 14 no problem now
also i have weighed my car and with me in it full interior and half tank of gas it was 3350 and i weigh a little more than 200lbs.
on motor my best has been a 15 flat at 95. car wasn't running right at all, the a/f was in the 11's to 10.5 which is insanely rich so i think i can get a 14 no problem now
also i have weighed my car and with me in it full interior and half tank of gas it was 3350 and i weigh a little more than 200lbs.
01-17-2007, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I hate to bring up this toolbox loser a$$hat (can you tell I don't like him), but Russ went 14.8 or 14.9 stock back in the day if I recall correctly (this was back before most of you guys were on here). I remember it was a very similar time to what my 96 ran stock (14.87).
edit: just looked it up, he went 14.83 @ 94.6 stock. god I'm glad that guy is gone...
edit: just looked it up, he went 14.83 @ 94.6 stock. god I'm glad that guy is gone...
01-17-2007, 09:52 PM
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yeah, I think we need to keep in mind that a lot of the timeslips on here for the 5th gen's are inaccurate...as when you match them up with dyno slips that they later post on here..., their hp #'s are way low compared to their torque which always means the same thing for 5th gens...the infamous broken VIAS...afflicts about 99% of all 5th gen owners during the course of ownership...however, the worst thing about it is, almost no 5th gen owners you speak too notice their top end is gone...it's such a quiet, no frills manifold switchover, that it's hard to tell without direct comparison or very specific timed runs if your VIAS is broken...the car still pulls pretty good...I know, it happened to me...then I got on the dyno in front of a ton of maxima guys and was embarrassed that I too fell victim...