VQ vs VR6...video

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Jun 15, 2008 | 08:48 PM
  #1  
i just thought i would share this with everyone. this was at the track a little over 2 weeks ago. I actually got 8 runs in for the night. I had 4 runs against my friend's VR6 Corrado, only 3 were captured on video.

i thought for sure i was easily gonna be in the 14s but man it was harder than i thought. now i know that i waited to long to shift and also its not running up to its full potential. i think i need a tune up.

the corrado is chipped, intake, cams, rebuilt head, gutted intake manifold, lightweight flywheel, hi flow cat, dynomax muffler. i just did a little bit of editing, nothing serious. enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgAGIA5YLI
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Jun 15, 2008 | 08:53 PM
  #2  
Great pass man... you laced him up! Congrats!
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Jun 15, 2008 | 09:06 PM
  #3  
ill make sure i pull this up at work to the V-dub guys tomorrow lol, nice
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Jun 15, 2008 | 10:11 PM
  #4  
What did your slips look like? Siounded like both of you were spinning off the line pretty good. Nice runs.
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Jun 16, 2008 | 05:10 AM
  #5  
Red Maxima's are so sexy, man I bid that vw guy is either looking for a SC or trade in for a maxima
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Jun 16, 2008 | 09:28 AM
  #6  
my friends cousin has a 97 vr6 gti and i want to race him bacause he was taking averybody out at the track. but he wouldnt tell me his time. but i dont know if i can take him out with my stock 5gen 5speed.
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Jun 16, 2008 | 10:07 AM
  #7  
what mods you done to it Redline??? and what did you launch at? good runs!
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Jun 16, 2008 | 06:40 PM
  #8  
Nice job. Its always nice to have a friendly grudge match! Do you know what each car's whp is?
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Jun 16, 2008 | 07:33 PM
  #9  
Quote: my friends cousin has a 97 vr6 gti and i want to race him bacause he was taking averybody out at the track. but he wouldnt tell me his time. but i dont know if i can take him out with my stock 5gen 5speed.
stock VS stock they're pretty much even, may come down to driver
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Jun 16, 2008 | 08:50 PM
  #10  
Quote: What did your slips look like? Siounded like both of you were spinning off the line pretty good. Nice runs.
i have the slips in the car. i will try to post them up when i get a chance. for the most part the 1st and 3rd runs i had low 2.3 60fts. the 2nd run i pulled a 2.21 60ft but i ended up missing 3rd gear. if u listen closely u will hear the delay btwn 2nd and 3rd. man i was so pissed. i think that for sure would have been a 14sec pass. most of the spinning u hear is mostly from the corrado.

Quote: what mods you done to it Redline??? and what did you launch at? good runs!
mods are:

SPEC Stage 2 Clutch
Fidanza Lightweight Aluminum Flywheel
Injen CAI - slightly modified (3" duct routed from front to filter for more true cold air)
Cattman Headers and Y-Pipe
Greddy SP2 Catback Exhaust

my launches were right around 6000rpms. those launches provided my best 60fts. this is my suspension setup:

TEIN Basic Coilovers
Progress RSB
Otto Racing FSTB
RSTB
All Energy Suspension Polyurethane Bushings

i didn't have any wheel hop at all. i must say those General UHPs hooked up pretty quick. there wasn't reallly that much wheelspin. i tried to control it as much as i could using the clutch.

Quote: Nice job. Its always nice to have a friendly grudge match! Do you know what each car's whp is?
well i had a dyno last week monday and the numbers were low to me. i got 178whp and 183wtq. however that was after a 45min drive to the shop and then it sat for 10mins before getting on the dyno. also i think it was like 95 degrees out during the dyno.

we speculate that the corrado is making about 185whp give or take a few.
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Jun 16, 2008 | 09:32 PM
  #11  
how in the world did you manage to get in 8 runs at bithlo? everytime i go i get 2 or 3 at most.
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Jun 16, 2008 | 10:45 PM
  #12  
Try launching lower in the rpm band. toss the injen, i had one, modded it to take in real cold air, still didnt like it. Felt like it choked top end. I switched to a pop charger, and it felt much better.

Nice runs never the less! Breaking 14's is nice. I Kept trying to break 13's before i gave up, i just coudlnt do it, i think with headers and slicks would have definatley got me there. The best i ever did was 14.2@99 with some pretty good traction issues
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Jun 17, 2008 | 05:32 AM
  #13  
Quote: how in the world did you manage to get in 8 runs at bithlo? everytime i go i get 2 or 3 at most.
hahaha. believe me i was shocked as well. the most i got in before that was 2. that was the best time i ever had at that track. i don't know if less people are coming out because of gas prices?
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Jun 17, 2008 | 10:54 AM
  #14  
wow 6000rpm launch lol. Whatever works for you - that's a helluvalot of wear on the clutch though.

Is that track known to be slow? What were the weather conditions like? I'd expect much quicker times and higher traps from a car with your mods but if you had a bunch of things conspiring against you like a slow track and poor weather conditions for racing then that could explain it.
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Jun 17, 2008 | 11:31 AM
  #15  
Quote: well i had a dyno last week monday and the numbers were low to me. i got 178whp and 183wtq. however that was after a 45min drive to the shop and then it sat for 10mins before getting on the dyno. also i think it was like 95 degrees out during the dyno.
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What type of dyno was that on, and if it was a dynojet, what correction factor do those values represent?
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Jun 17, 2008 | 01:22 PM
  #16  
Quote: Try launching lower in the rpm band. toss the injen, i had one, modded it to take in real cold air, still didnt like it. Felt like it choked top end. I switched to a pop charger, and it felt much better.

Nice runs never the less! Breaking 14's is nice. I Kept trying to break 13's before i gave up, i just coudlnt do it, i think with headers and slicks would have definatley got me there. The best i ever did was 14.2@99 with some pretty good traction issues
The best intake is stock that will put him in 14's.

When there is not a lot of people at orlando speed world they usually go cheap on track prep. What psi did your tires have? I think your rims are weighing you down thats y you need to launch at 6k to get a good 60ft.
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Jun 17, 2008 | 01:59 PM
  #17  
Quote: The best intake is stock that will put him in 14's.

When there is not a lot of people at orlando speed world they usually go cheap on track prep. What psi did your tires have? I think your rims are weighing you down thats y you need to launch at 6k to get a good 60ft.
i thought the track prep was pretty good. i mean those are the best 60fts i ever pulled or maybe im getting better. there were a couple Evo X's that were pulling 1.8 60fts. and running high 11s.

my rims weighing me down? my combo is less than 37lbs. when i launch low the car bogs pretty badly.
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Jun 17, 2008 | 02:04 PM
  #18  
time slips
Quote: wow 6000rpm launch lol. Whatever works for you - that's a helluvalot of wear on the clutch though.

Is that track known to be slow? What were the weather conditions like? I'd expect much quicker times and higher traps from a car with your mods but if you had a bunch of things conspiring against you like a slow track and poor weather conditions for racing then that could explain it.
here are the three slips. they are in order from left to right. it was very hot. for some reason they date and time is always a day ahead on the slips. the date was 5/28/08 and the times for all runs were PM obviously.




check out the middle slip. that was run 2 in the video. i think i had 14s in that run but i missed third. what do you think?
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Jun 17, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Quote: when i launch low the car bogs pretty badly.
How is this possible? What do you mean by low launching? unless you are running on some radials or slicks that shouldnt happen.. but if your tires are that grippy... then how did you only pull a 2.3?? Thats confusing. Next time just ride the clutch in at like 4k and then when u get going enough just let it go and see if that helps your 60'. But i am really confused about your launches.
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Jun 17, 2008 | 02:05 PM
  #20  
Quote: What type of dyno was that on, and if it was a dynojet, what correction factor do those values represent?
it was a dynojet. i am still waiting on runfiles from the shop. here is the graph though with some info at the bottom. hope this helps:

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Jun 17, 2008 | 02:11 PM
  #21  
Quote: How is this possible? What do you mean by low launching? unless you are running on some radials or slicks that shouldnt happen.. but if your tires are that grippy... then how did you only pull a 2.3?? Thats confusing. Next time just ride the clutch in at like 4k and then when u get going enough just let it go and see if that helps your 60'. But i am really confused about your launches.
the best 60ft i pulled was 2.21. i tried one from around 4000rpm by doing exactly what u suggested. that resulted in a 2.484 60ft. i know what you're saying though. i myself can't understand why the high rpm launches work better than low rpm launches.

but looking at my dyno graph, i guess i don't have enough power down low to really get moving. when i launch high it falls in the pwer band. thats my only explanation.
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Jun 17, 2008 | 11:55 PM
  #22  
Try this.

Cheap fix it might work. The MAF adapter that the injen uses, remove the whole intake, put the stock intake on, and bolt the MAF Adapter onto the maf, and just run it like that. See if you notice any difference.

Stock intake is better then most intakes out there, but IMO i perfer my JWT pop charger the best. When i went from JWT Pop to stock then back to JWT Pop, i noticed a increase in mid range power. Then again its my butt dyno.
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Jun 19, 2008 | 07:23 PM
  #23  
I always love the track videos. Nice runs and nice job by that camera man.
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Jun 24, 2008 | 07:50 AM
  #24  
is that corey's old redmax?
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Jun 24, 2008 | 05:31 PM
  #25  
Quote: is that corey's old redmax?

i don't know who corey is but this isn't his old max
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Jul 16, 2008 | 04:30 PM
  #26  
What do the first numbers mean on the timing lights(not the tree lights) b4 the trap time and speed comes up.
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Jul 17, 2008 | 12:34 PM
  #27  
but 15.1 seconds is not bad at all...
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