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Old 10-31-2010, 10:42 AM
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a video from the track

My friend shot this from the stands. My car runs at 2:41 seconds in, against a mustang. My best run of the day was a 13.4, highest trap was 110mph, 60ft times were all 2.5X. Unfortunately I usually get bad wheel spin and i was having some missfiring on the top end.
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Nice vid alot of races yours was sic good times for sure $hit looked quick!
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Yeah, the track is always a good time. A bunch of my friends went. Cole is a pro when it comes to shooting and editing videos.
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those pan american car were bad azz
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Lots of quick cars in that vid! Yours included. Good times.
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110 trap is moving! Get some slicks for that badboy!
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yeah, im gonna get an lsd tranny or a phantom grip for next season.
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holy crap was that red Civic RWD?
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RWD, Corvette motor, and two of the biggest turbos I've ever seen. It was the fastest car there. I talked to the owner and he said its gone 7.70 in the 1/4.

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some photos. note the tire smoke.


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glad your enjoying the rims, wish I had them back now

never thought I would get back into tracking the car
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
glad your enjoying the rims, wish I had them back now

never thought I would get back into tracking the car
I ended up getting 4 more, so now I have a set for my street tires too. Just gotta get my tires switched onto them one of these days.

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Yeah I may try to find another set and put some 24inch slicks on them

any plans for a mevi or 00vi swap
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
Yeah I may try to find another set and put some 24inch slicks on them

any plans for a mevi or 00vi swap
You're gonna want a wider wheel for the 24s.
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
Yeah I may try to find another set and put some 24inch slicks on them

any plans for a mevi or 00vi swap
yeah mevi is in the works. rpm switch arrived yesterday.
I'm on BFG drag radials now and I've had better 60fts on my street tires. I think I need to avoid the water box until I get LSD because im probably burning one tire and the other one stays wet. then the wet one spins when i launch. Or maybe i should just get a full slick
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Originally Posted by bryan163
yeah mevi is in the works. rpm switch arrived yesterday.
I'm on BFG drag radials now and I've had better 60fts on my street tires. I think I need to avoid the water box until I get LSD because im probably burning one tire and the other one stays wet. then the wet one spins when i launch. Or maybe i should just get a full slick
Full slick!
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Originally Posted by krazy6
Full slick!
Maybe I will go that rout next year, even though I just bought the BFGs and only ran them once. Can I run a tube tire on my millenia wheels? do I need to put screws in the bead? I see you are getting a 1.8 60ft, so you must know how to make traction. If I could knock my 60ft down to 1.8, id be in the 12s

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Maybe I will go that rout next year, even though I just bought the BFGs and only ran them once. Can I run a tube tire on my millenia wheels? do I need to put screws in the bead? I see you are getting a 1.8 60ft, so you must know how to make traction. If I could knock my 60ft down to 1.8, id be in the 12s
The secret to traction is don't run drag radials.
You want a bias ply tire.

You could fit some 23x7.5-15 M&H slicks on the millenia wheels.
That should help traction immensely.
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you don't need to run tubes at all. all they do is make sure your tires don't deflate in the days/weeks between trips to the drag strip. if you air them up before you go to the track every time you are fine. tubes don't have anything to do with whether or not you need screws, and you won't need screws. you won't be running the pressure low enough to need screws.


turning your steering wheel back and forth in the burnout box generally can get both tires spinning if you are having problems with spinning just one tire.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
you don't need to run tubes at all. all they do is make sure your tires don't deflate in the days/weeks between trips to the drag strip. if you air them up before you go to the track every time you are fine. tubes don't have anything to do with whether or not you need screws, and you won't need screws. you won't be running the pressure low enough to need screws.


turning your steering wheel back and forth in the burnout box generally can get both tires spinning if you are having problems with spinning just one tire.
Ok, Glad to here I dont need tubes. I did try moving the wheel back and forth.
so maybe the burnout wasnt the issue. I wish I had more than 3 runs to refine my launch. I think I was running around 30psi on the run in the video. after that i dropped it to 25psi. Tried to hold the RPMs around 2500 for the launch, but its hard to say what I launched at because i was too busy looking at the tree.
I'd get a lot more practice if there was a track in my state.

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Ok, Glad to here I dont need tubes. I did try moving the wheel back and forth.
so maybe the burnout wasnt the issue. I wish I had more than 3 runs to refine my launch. I think I was running around 30psi on the run in the video. after that i dropped it to 25psi. Tried to hold the RPMs around 2500 for the launch, but its hard to say what I launched at because i was too busy looking at the tree.
Yeah, tubes are unnecessary.

25psi is wayyyyy to high. Try like 14-18psi for the radials. I run my ET Streets at 12psi.
Don't worry about watching the tree to much. Reaction time doesn't factor into your time.
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don't worry about the tree, your time doesn't start till you cross the beams

also 30psi is too high for street tires let only dr's at the track, I would start at 20psi next time you hit the track traction should be alot better

also those dr's don't need alot of heat and if you get them too hot they will get slippery

edit: lol ^ we must have been typing at the sametime
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Originally Posted by krazy6
You're gonna want a wider wheel for the 24s.

I was going to get 24x8's but if they crown the tire too much than I'll just use the stock sawblade or I30t bbs wheels
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Originally Posted by krazy6
Yeah, tubes are unnecessary.

25psi is wayyyyy to high. Try like 14-18psi for the radials. I run my ET Streets at 12psi.
Don't worry about watching the tree to much. Reaction time doesn't factor into your time.
I was lowering pressure a little each run, but sounds like a was way off. I figured the radials were so sticky that traction wouldnt be an issue for car. Especially on a treated track. I was surprised to find the track felt more slippery than the street.
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
I was going to get 24x8's but if they crown the tire too much than I'll just use the stock sawblade or I30t bbs wheels
Whats the weight on the saw blades? My car always felt quick on those by comparison to the 5 spoke SE's.
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
I was going to get 24x8's but if they crown the tire too much than I'll just use the stock sawblade or I30t bbs wheels
You will be sacrificing your contact patch with the smaller width wheel. A 15x7 or a 15x8 wheel would work really well with that tire.
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I was lowering pressure a little each run, but sounds like a was way off. I figured the radials were so sticky that traction wouldnt be an issue for car. Especially on a treated track. I was surprised to find the track felt more slippery than the street.
Not gonna lie, drag radials suck on a fwd car. You can make them work ok, but you're leaving a lot on the table.
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Originally Posted by bryan163
Whats the weight on the saw blades? My car always felt quick on those by comparison to the 5 spoke SE's.
I think like sawblades are 16lbs, I30t bbs rims are like 13.5lbs

You will be sacrificing your contact patch with the smaller width wheel. A 15x7 or a 15x8 wheel would work really well with that tire.
when I spoke with the guy a m/h he said the mazda wheels would be pushing it on a 8inch tire but a 6.5inch rim would be fine since I am only going to run between 10-15psi. He said the weight of the car + low psi will flatten the tire
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Ok so slicks are on my list for next season. Also an LSD transmission in some form weather it be stock or aftermarket diff. Has anyone seen this before? someone i know has one and he says it works well, but he doesnt track his car and his HP is closer to stock. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33731
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
I think like sawblades are 16lbs, I30t bbs rims are like 13.5lbs



when I spoke with the guy a m/h he said the mazda wheels would be pushing it on a 8inch tire but a 6.5inch rim would be fine since I am only going to run between 10-15psi. He said the weight of the car + low psi will flatten the tire
BBS is the winner then. You need that width and its the lightest for its size + cheap to buy from scrap yards.
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+1 on the BBS wheels. Should work nicely!
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Originally Posted by bryan163
Ok so slicks are on my list for next season. Also an LSD transmission in some form weather it be stock or aftermarket diff. Has anyone seen this before? someone i know has one and he says it works well, but he doesnt track his car and his HP is closer to stock. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33731
that seems to be more of a locker or spool than a lsd

I'd rather weld my diff which is what I plan to do if I don't find a lsd tranny by the summer
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
that seems to be more of a locker or spool than a lsd

I'd rather weld my diff which is what I plan to do if I don't find a lsd tranny by the summer
Found this on their website on how it works.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/component/content/article/10

I have heard of people using these before.
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Originally Posted by krazy6
Found this on their website on how it works.
http://www.phantomgrip.com/component/content/article/10

I have heard of people using these before.
Wow, it's almost like the eaton posi in my truck

I would buy this over welding my diff, man learn something new everyday

wish I had the money to get it right now while my car is all apart
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Wow, it's almost like the eaton posi in my truck

I would buy this over welding my diff, man learn something new everyday

wish I had the money to get it right now while my car is all apart
Yeah, it's pretty cool!
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Im guessing it must put some wear on the spider gears, but my transmissions aren't likely to live long enough for that to matter anyway. I'm gonna buy it this winter. I will make sure to do a write up on the install. It sucks that the racing season is over here in the northeast, but at least I can get all these projects done.
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That's sucks I am in Philly and the tracks are open till Dec down here
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Originally Posted by t6378tp
That's sucks I am in Philly and the tracks are open till Dec down here
we had an inch of snow here this morning
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Originally Posted by krazy6
The secret to traction is don't run drag radials.
You want a bias ply tire.

You could fit some 23x7.5-15 M&H slicks on the millenia wheels.
That should help traction immensely.
I am not sure that I agree with this statement. My times actually improved changing to drag radials from slicks because my '60 foots remained the same while feeling more stable and getting higher traps. Maybe everybody doesn't have this experience, but I pulled low 1.8 '60 foots on my drag radials within my first 4 runs ever using them.
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
I am not sure that I agree with this statement. My times actually improved changing to drag radials from slicks because my '60 foots remained the same while feeling more stable and getting higher traps. Maybe everybody doesn't have this experience, but I pulled low 1.8 '60 foots on my drag radials within my first 4 runs ever using them.
I think its because you drove the car better on the radials. It seemed like your car would kind of bog on the slicks. I think you were slipping the clutch to much.

I could be wrong, but there is a reason all of the fast fwd drag cars run slicks. Radials just don't work as well.
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