12.9 @ 106.9MPH ALL MOTOR 6th gen!!!
11-07-2010, 08:52 PM
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12.9 @ 106.9MPH ALL MOTOR 6th gen!!!
I was really excited when I got this slip! A lot of hard work has paid off right here. 
Ran a couple of other passes, but could not get the car to hook. All passes were around 106-107MPH.
Runs were made at KCIR. Density Altitude: 1712 feet || Relative Density: 95.08 %
http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...time=1:54%20PM
Here are the mods:
Fujita intake
3" exhaust back to a single magnaflow muffler (Still running the stock exhaust manifolds and stock cats)
NWP spacers
NWP Block off plate
15lb Lawnmower battery (only cost $25 at walmart)
26x11.5-16 ET Streets mounted on FD RX7 wheels (super lightweight)
Lots of weight reduction
Blue tape rear "diffuser".
(Blocks off the air gap between the gas tank and the rear bumper cover. Reduced drag a lot. When you see honda civics with holes in the rear bumper, this is pretty much doing the same thing. Diverting the air from getting trapped in the rear bumper. I gained a lot of mph from last time with this being pretty much the only change.)
I didn't use the spare tire skinnies this time, as this track would not allow it.
Really simple setup with very little money invested.
My goal was to hit 12s without headers and a tune. If I can get the car too hook, it should run some 12.7s in the near future.
Here is the good stuff:
Maxima in "race" trim
Me and Harold's(Grey99max) beast! Harold is living proof that this 12 second pass happened.
Here is the motor, nothing special.
Here is proof of the stock manifolds
Here is my amazingly ghetto but functional "diffuser"
Gained ~2mph with just this change.
Here are the slips:
Spun a little bit on the launch. I was super excited when I got my 12.9 slip.
Spun quite a bit on the launch.
Spun a lot on the launch.
Car feels really good. Absolutely lights up the street tires on the street.
Let me know what you guys think!
Ran a couple of other passes, but could not get the car to hook. All passes were around 106-107MPH.
Runs were made at KCIR. Density Altitude: 1712 feet || Relative Density: 95.08 %
http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...time=1:54%20PM
Here are the mods:
Fujita intake
3" exhaust back to a single magnaflow muffler (Still running the stock exhaust manifolds and stock cats)
NWP spacers
NWP Block off plate
15lb Lawnmower battery (only cost $25 at walmart)
26x11.5-16 ET Streets mounted on FD RX7 wheels (super lightweight)
Lots of weight reduction
Blue tape rear "diffuser".
(Blocks off the air gap between the gas tank and the rear bumper cover. Reduced drag a lot. When you see honda civics with holes in the rear bumper, this is pretty much doing the same thing. Diverting the air from getting trapped in the rear bumper. I gained a lot of mph from last time with this being pretty much the only change.)I didn't use the spare tire skinnies this time, as this track would not allow it.
Really simple setup with very little money invested.
My goal was to hit 12s without headers and a tune. If I can get the car too hook, it should run some 12.7s in the near future.
Here is the good stuff:
Maxima in "race" trim
Me and Harold's(Grey99max) beast! Harold is living proof that this 12 second pass happened.
Here is the motor, nothing special.
Here is proof of the stock manifolds
Here is my amazingly ghetto but functional "diffuser"
Gained ~2mph with just this change.
Here are the slips:
Spun a little bit on the launch. I was super excited when I got my 12.9 slip.
Spun quite a bit on the launch.
Spun a lot on the launch.
Car feels really good. Absolutely lights up the street tires on the street.
Let me know what you guys think!
11-07-2010, 09:36 PM
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I have been daily driving with this battery for like 3 weeks now and it hasn't given me any problems.
Think of it this way:
MPH shows how much power you make.
ET shows how good you can hook.
Basically, your mph will stay relatively the same if you get a 2.2 60' or a 1.8 60'.
You trapped 110mph, so with some good traction (1.8 60' or less) you should be deep into the 12s.
This is why you will see fwd turbo cars trap like 140mph and run a 10.8 and then you'll see a RWD drag car trap like 123mph and run a 10.8.
The difference is the fwd turbo car can't hook as well as the rwd drag car.
Hope that explained it.
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11-07-2010, 10:21 PM
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Damn great times and the driver of the year award goes tooooooo Krazy6
So whats next I noticed you already removed the a/c or mirrors. fyi I would put some used motorcycle tires on the donuts to make them legal.
So whats next I noticed you already removed the a/c or mirrors. fyi I would put some used motorcycle tires on the donuts to make them legal.
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11-07-2010, 11:12 PM
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Thanks for the explanation. That makes perfect sense. what weight reduction mods do you have besides the battery and wheels? I noticed our doors weigh a ton. I was thinking of totally gutting a spare set of doors down to the skins and using Plexiglas windows in them just for the track. I already deleted the spare tire well, AC components, rear bumper support, and put in a 13lb AGM battery.
11-08-2010, 03:47 AM
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Mph relates to HP most the time and his car may not be making much but the weight reduction and reduced drag helps a lot.... if the mph is 1 maybe 2mph of a difference then that's shouldn't be something you should be worring about too much as everything won't be perfect in every 1/4 run... he did trap 107 but only ran a 13.1 so that's goes to show a lil about what I'm talking about.......... anyways krazy6 you did it man, congratulations, maxima's braking 12's with no headers, great shyt
11-08-2010, 09:23 AM
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Actually my friend is shipping up some 15x4 jegs "prostars" with some 165 nexens on them. They'll be legal, and they will be here on Wednesday.
Then I got to sort out the suspension so this damn thing will actually hook. This car is begging for a slick. Damn big brakes.
Thanks for the explanation. That makes perfect sense. what weight reduction mods do you have besides the battery and wheels? I noticed our doors weigh a ton. I was thinking of totally gutting a spare set of doors down to the skins and using Plexiglas windows in them just for the track. I already deleted the spare tire well, AC components, rear bumper support, and put in a 13lb AGM battery.
I haven't cut anything on the car. I have removed as much stuff as possible. The list would be too long to list. lol
I wish I could find some spare doors for super cheap, because I would gut the hell out of them.
Thanks!
11-08-2010, 11:00 AM
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Yup, he's right - I watched his Max click off the 12.99 ET. That's an impressive car at the track. The trick exhaust system, the"blue tape" mod on the tail, and aggressive weight reduction all came together for him on Sunday.
I may have an idea about the launch problems - while watching him burn out before the water box, then after he passed through, I could see the driver's side slick smoking like mad, but the passenger tire didn't spin. No biggie before the box, but after he went through it and the passenger side didn't spin again on the other side, I wonder if he carried a wet tire to the starting line? This didn't occur to me until today. If he can get both slicks to hook together, the 60' time will drop. We discussed moving the wheels back and forth while doing a burn-out.
A fun day - lots of really fast cars and bikes, and we got to watch a 10.[1-2]x 150mph Honda put his street tires back on and drive out the gate on his way home.
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11-08-2010, 12:35 PM
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Thanks man!
Thanks man!
It will run really good that's for sure.
Anyone want to donate some money to the low 12 second all motor 6th gen fund? haha
Thanks Harold!
Yeah, once I can get this thing to hook it should put down some really nice times. I'll try turning the wheel back and forth in the box next time.
That honda was awesome! I wish I had a car that could trap 150mph and then drive home.
Thanks! Lot's of experiments have been tried on this car.
Thanks!
It will run really good that's for sure.
Anyone want to donate some money to the low 12 second all motor 6th gen fund? haha
Yup, he's right - I watched his Max click off the 12.99 ET. That's an impressive car at the track. The trick exhaust system, the"blue tape" mod on the tail, and aggressive weight reduction all came together for him on Sunday.
I may have an idea about the launch problems - while watching him burn out before the water box, then after he passed through, I could see the driver's side slick smoking like mad, but the passenger tire didn't spin. No biggie before the box, but after he went through it and the passenger side didn't spin again on the other side, I wonder if he carried a wet tire to the starting line? This didn't occur to me until today. If he can get both slicks to hook together, the 60' time will drop. We discussed moving the wheels back and forth while doing a burn-out.
A fun day - lots of really fast cars and bikes, and we got to watch a 10.[1-2]x 150mph Honda put his street tires back on and drive out the gate on his way home.
I may have an idea about the launch problems - while watching him burn out before the water box, then after he passed through, I could see the driver's side slick smoking like mad, but the passenger tire didn't spin. No biggie before the box, but after he went through it and the passenger side didn't spin again on the other side, I wonder if he carried a wet tire to the starting line? This didn't occur to me until today. If he can get both slicks to hook together, the 60' time will drop. We discussed moving the wheels back and forth while doing a burn-out.
A fun day - lots of really fast cars and bikes, and we got to watch a 10.[1-2]x 150mph Honda put his street tires back on and drive out the gate on his way home.
Yeah, once I can get this thing to hook it should put down some really nice times. I'll try turning the wheel back and forth in the box next time.
That honda was awesome! I wish I had a car that could trap 150mph and then drive home.
Thanks!
11-08-2010, 02:35 PM
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Congratulations man! Must feel great. That diffuser idea, was that influenced by Harold? lol, he usually thinks of crazy things like that. I have always wondered if it really makes any difference trying something like that. specially having no covers at the bottom by engine bay = causing more drag.
11-08-2010, 06:51 PM
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Congratulations man! Must feel great. That diffuser idea, was that influenced by Harold? lol, he usually thinks of crazy things like that. I have always wondered if it really makes any difference trying something like that. specially having no covers at the bottom by engine bay = causing more drag.
I just unloaded my camera, so I will post the one video that worked, and some stills. Incidentially, I was wrong - he did smoke both tires! I missed getting his first pass on camera - darn...
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He's grinning for a reason!
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11-08-2010, 07:55 PM
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Congratulations man! Must feel great. That diffuser idea, was that influenced by Harold? lol, he usually thinks of crazy things like that. I have always wondered if it really makes any difference trying something like that. specially having no covers at the bottom by engine bay = causing more drag.
I didn't get the idea from Harold, but after talking to him, he mentioned that he had a very similar idea. Great minds think alike!
Thanks!
Na, it wasn't me - although I do have an uncompleted belly pan in the garage. This guy thinks up his own stuff - and he's here in Kansas from California, I believe.
I just unloaded my camera, so I will post the one video that worked, and some stills.
He's grinning for a reason!
I just unloaded my camera, so I will post the one video that worked, and some stills.
He's grinning for a reason!
EDIT: That video turned out pretty good despite you not being able to see.
Last edited by krazy6; 11-08-2010 at 08:06 PM.
11-08-2010, 08:24 PM
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I spy gutted interior, mirrors, and corner lights. You definitely got me curious about aerodynamics too. Please take more videos when you go back. This is good stuff. We just got an inch of snow here, so I need to live vicariously through you.
11-08-2010, 08:53 PM
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Very impressive times! Congratulations man! Get it to hook a little better with a better DA and you'll make a mid 12 sec pass!Love the rear diffuser. Great idea! I might have to make something like that for my car.
I'm a little surprised that you are spinning with that much slick. I know they're et streets but they're basically slicks. How much pressure were u running? Maybe do a longer burnout?
11-08-2010, 09:36 PM
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I only took out the driver side corner light to feed the filter.
Aerodynamics is something most people don't think about. I did a very simple modification and got some great results.
Very impressive times! Congratulations man! Get it to hook a little better with a better DA and you'll make a mid 12 sec pass!Love the rear diffuser. Great idea! I might have to make something like that for my car.
I'm a little surprised that you are spinning with that much slick. I know they're et streets but they're basically slicks. How much pressure were u running? Maybe do a longer burnout?
The rear diffuser surprised me with some great gains. You should definitely give it shot on your car.
Yeah, these tires aren't the greatest. I think the suspension is to blame though. It lifts a lot in the front and squats in the rear. Exactly what I don't need it to do.
I wish I could fit a 15" wheel on the car, then I could throw some 24.5s on it and actually hook.
So, this week I am gonna try to sort out the suspension for this fridays track day.
Also, I weighed the car today, and it weighs 3108lbs with me in it. No wonder its running so good.
11-08-2010, 09:53 PM
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Yeah, these tires aren't the greatest. I think the suspension is to blame though. It lifts a lot in the front and squats in the rear. Exactly what I don't need it to do.
I wish I could fit a 15" wheel on the car, then I could throw some 24.5s on it and actually hook.
So, this week I am gonna try to sort out the suspension for this fridays track day.
Also, I weighed the car today, and it weighs 3108lbs with me in it. No wonder its running so good.
I wish I could fit a 15" wheel on the car, then I could throw some 24.5s on it and actually hook.
So, this week I am gonna try to sort out the suspension for this fridays track day.
Also, I weighed the car today, and it weighs 3108lbs with me in it. No wonder its running so good.
Limiting straps will definitely help with your weight transfer problem. You already know that.
You might be able to install some 3rd or 4th gen brakes. I think the main issue would be how to mount the calipers. Idk... 
Damn that's light for a 6th gen! I bet that's close to what my 3rd gen weighs with driver. Did you remove things like a/c, ps, and/or bumper supports?
11-09-2010, 12:07 AM
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nice krazy6 u first of break 12 sec 6 gen all-motor in the world!
so im happy you use blue tape diffuser, remove door panel of interior, so i hope you could upgrade y-pipe, lightweight underdrive pulley, put a some pipe towards out the headlight of air intake pipe to manifold as aaron92se, maybe it will help more boost of air can gain trap speed when weather temperature is very low maybe on night, my guess it can hit 12.5 @ 110 mph? :-)
so im happy you use blue tape diffuser, remove door panel of interior, so i hope you could upgrade y-pipe, lightweight underdrive pulley, put a some pipe towards out the headlight of air intake pipe to manifold as aaron92se, maybe it will help more boost of air can gain trap speed when weather temperature is very low maybe on night, my guess it can hit 12.5 @ 110 mph? :-)
11-09-2010, 05:59 AM
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if you're gonna do all that weight reduction and aero mods you might as well do whatever's necessary to get 15" wheels on there so you can get a good tire on it. I think some 5.5G guys have managed to fit a 15" wheel on there, right? jime and blubyu2k2 come to mind. Not sure if they did brake swaps or brake grinding or just made sure to find the proper wheel with the proper spoke shape, etc. ET Streets blow. you'd probably be able to run 12.6 with just a tire change.
great time and trap man
great time and trap man
11-09-2010, 08:21 AM
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I'm starting to smell something fishy.. I'm not doubting that you ran what you ran but there's more to this car then meets the eye. At 3,100lbs you'd have to have at least 280-290WHP to be able to run something like this. A VQ with just spacers, BOP and intake isn't making that at all. You'd need to be in the mid 2k range to be able to run 12s with just 230-240WHP.Hell, the fastest 5.5th gen is running 280'ish WHP and is lighter then you. It's either you have one hell of a factory freak.. or..
11-09-2010, 08:54 AM
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11-09-2010, 10:22 AM
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Unless there was a RMT under all that blue tape, what you see is what you get.
11-09-2010, 10:27 AM
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if you're gonna do all that weight reduction and aero mods you might as well do whatever's necessary to get 15" wheels on there so you can get a good tire on it. I think some 5.5G guys have managed to fit a 15" wheel on there, right? jime and blubyu2k2 come to mind. Not sure if they did brake swaps or brake grinding or just made sure to find the proper wheel with the proper spoke shape, etc. ET Streets blow. you'd probably be able to run 12.6 with just a tire change.
great time and trap man
great time and trap man
Hey krazy6, I have a good set of 5.5g rotors and calipers for sale. I'll let them go for $50 plus shipping.