Drag weight?
#1
Drag weight?
Hey guys. Wanted to see if anyone had weights for a fully stripped 4th gen with or without cage?
Pondering prepping one for road racing and want to see what sort of weight I can expect as it will effect what sort of cage I put in as well as tires, wheels and a host of other factors.
Thanks in advance!
Pondering prepping one for road racing and want to see what sort of weight I can expect as it will effect what sort of cage I put in as well as tires, wheels and a host of other factors.
Thanks in advance!
Last edited by dsycks; 07-17-2011 at 08:54 AM.
#3
Edited for typo... I need to know about 4th gen.
I have seen sources quote 28XX lbs as stock for a base 4th gen Maxima so I am hopeful that I can get under 2600lbs with cage at race weight.
I have seen sources quote 28XX lbs as stock for a base 4th gen Maxima so I am hopeful that I can get under 2600lbs with cage at race weight.
#4
If you do a search there is a link on weight reduction and how much each part weights. You should be able to get the car down to 2500-2600lbs without driver.
Personal why not just get a 91 sentra ser if you want to stay in the nissan family
Personal why not just get a 91 sentra ser if you want to stay in the nissan family
#5
SERs are nice but are a little small and are seen as cheaty. E30s, Miatas, and other cars which have been done and are seen as a competitive advantage get lots of heat in tech as well.
As for Nissan, I will drive a tampax box if its fast. I have no worries about loyalty.
As for Nissan, I will drive a tampax box if its fast. I have no worries about loyalty.
#6
I got my 6th gen to weigh 3000lbs with me in it. I had a lot more weight I could have taken out of it too.
#9
CRX = Great chassis and blown head gaskets. If your motor holds together you will be fast.
MR2 = Odd. They work great for a while then have odd issues that take them out but it for some reason never seems to be the same issue twice. There is a team that has won on laps with one but I saw another very organized team selling theirs for 1$ at the last race I was at simply because they were fed up with it.
Some cars have very strong records and not the ones you may expect. BMW E30 and Miata are always popular with folks who want to win but hated by judges who do tech. Saturns, Volvo 240s and Neons are all pipe hitters however and don't get as much heat.
MR2 = Odd. They work great for a while then have odd issues that take them out but it for some reason never seems to be the same issue twice. There is a team that has won on laps with one but I saw another very organized team selling theirs for 1$ at the last race I was at simply because they were fed up with it.
Some cars have very strong records and not the ones you may expect. BMW E30 and Miata are always popular with folks who want to win but hated by judges who do tech. Saturns, Volvo 240s and Neons are all pipe hitters however and don't get as much heat.
#11
I actually have this saved on my phone along with every performace mod you could ever do to our cars lol.
Items Weight
Aftermarket y-pipe 15.00
* UR or RVM UDP 3.00
* Aftermarket Cat-back 10.00
* Remove Carpeting, cardboard, and everything else in trunk 6.00
* Remove Plate Under Steering Wheel. 2.00
* Remove support bar behind glove box. 2.00
* Remove plate behind back seat 6.00
* Remove Sound deadening under hood. 2.00
* Remove handles on ceiling 1.00
* Miscellaneous bolts due to removing things. 2.00
* Aftermarket Cat 2.00
* Lighter rim/tire combo (I have not personally fulfilled this with my 18”s, but it really does help.) (Varies)
* Aluminum Flywheel 12.00
* Swap stock seat for ultra light racing seat 32.00
* Swap out hood for CF hood 29.00
* Change body to CF (Bumpers, fenders) (Fiberglass Bumper 5-10lbs , Fiberglass Fender 12-18lbs)
* Ground Control Coilovers 34.00
* Floor mats (Can switch to diamond plated and still save (3lbs) or remove for 10.00
* Switch from glass headlights to plastic (95/96-97-99) 4.00
* Stock Fog lights 6.00
* Lighter Battery (Varies)
* Replace Stock antenna with aftermarket(2lbs) (Get rid of antenna all together 4.50
* Fast Brakes Kit (Those with at least 16” rims) 32.00
Remove Visors 3.00
* Remove rear view mirror
* Underbody Plastics 15.00
* All non-essential hoses air boxes and other things Removed from engine (Net weight of 10lbs)*
* Trunk arms (Things that hold up trunk when open) 2.00
* Extra bar in front bumper (97-99)
* Windshield wipers (w/out motor 7lbs w/ motor) 2.00
* Side view mirrors 5.00
* Owners Manual 1.00
* Headrests 3.00
* Underbody hitches 4.00
* Brake dust shields 3.00
* Remove Jack 4.00
* Remove Metal piece that holds jack 2.00
* Remove Spare Tire (May be included in stage one, if not afraid of flat tires.) 28.00
* Remove Heat Shielding for exhaust system 8.00
* Remove Sound Deadening under carpet (aka tar) (So far removed 13.00
* Remove Back seat 30.00
* Remove Passenger Seat 48.00
* Remove interior panels (per panel 3- 4.00
* Remove ceiling 7.00
* Remove Carpet 12.00
* Remove Unnecessary dash pieces (approx but could be more)* 2.00
* Remove AC 33.00
* Remove Power steering (Papasmurf does not recommend doing this one)
* Remove all seat belts accept for driver 10.00
* Swap out steering wheel for aftermarket 3.00
* Remove airbags (May be illegal.) (Just driver side total of 12lbs w/ passenger 26.00
* Remove e-brake and all components
* Remove Stereo, speakers and all sound components. (approx. for factory ) 18.00
* Remove power windows and locks.
* Cruise Control System 1.00
* Remove Rear Heating Ducts (3lbs)*
* Replace Gas Tank with Aluminum Fuel Cell (Weight reduction will be different depending on size of tank)
* Replace sunroof with solid plexiglass roof (Will weigh less than even cars without sunroofs)
* Cutout unneeded metal
* Cutout spare tire well and replace over with sheet metal
Items Weight
Aftermarket y-pipe 15.00
* UR or RVM UDP 3.00
* Aftermarket Cat-back 10.00
* Remove Carpeting, cardboard, and everything else in trunk 6.00
* Remove Plate Under Steering Wheel. 2.00
* Remove support bar behind glove box. 2.00
* Remove plate behind back seat 6.00
* Remove Sound deadening under hood. 2.00
* Remove handles on ceiling 1.00
* Miscellaneous bolts due to removing things. 2.00
* Aftermarket Cat 2.00
* Lighter rim/tire combo (I have not personally fulfilled this with my 18”s, but it really does help.) (Varies)
* Aluminum Flywheel 12.00
* Swap stock seat for ultra light racing seat 32.00
* Swap out hood for CF hood 29.00
* Change body to CF (Bumpers, fenders) (Fiberglass Bumper 5-10lbs , Fiberglass Fender 12-18lbs)
* Ground Control Coilovers 34.00
* Floor mats (Can switch to diamond plated and still save (3lbs) or remove for 10.00
* Switch from glass headlights to plastic (95/96-97-99) 4.00
* Stock Fog lights 6.00
* Lighter Battery (Varies)
* Replace Stock antenna with aftermarket(2lbs) (Get rid of antenna all together 4.50
* Fast Brakes Kit (Those with at least 16” rims) 32.00
Remove Visors 3.00
* Remove rear view mirror
* Underbody Plastics 15.00
* All non-essential hoses air boxes and other things Removed from engine (Net weight of 10lbs)*
* Trunk arms (Things that hold up trunk when open) 2.00
* Extra bar in front bumper (97-99)
* Windshield wipers (w/out motor 7lbs w/ motor) 2.00
* Side view mirrors 5.00
* Owners Manual 1.00
* Headrests 3.00
* Underbody hitches 4.00
* Brake dust shields 3.00
* Remove Jack 4.00
* Remove Metal piece that holds jack 2.00
* Remove Spare Tire (May be included in stage one, if not afraid of flat tires.) 28.00
* Remove Heat Shielding for exhaust system 8.00
* Remove Sound Deadening under carpet (aka tar) (So far removed 13.00
* Remove Back seat 30.00
* Remove Passenger Seat 48.00
* Remove interior panels (per panel 3- 4.00
* Remove ceiling 7.00
* Remove Carpet 12.00
* Remove Unnecessary dash pieces (approx but could be more)* 2.00
* Remove AC 33.00
* Remove Power steering (Papasmurf does not recommend doing this one)
* Remove all seat belts accept for driver 10.00
* Swap out steering wheel for aftermarket 3.00
* Remove airbags (May be illegal.) (Just driver side total of 12lbs w/ passenger 26.00
* Remove e-brake and all components
* Remove Stereo, speakers and all sound components. (approx. for factory ) 18.00
* Remove power windows and locks.
* Cruise Control System 1.00
* Remove Rear Heating Ducts (3lbs)*
* Replace Gas Tank with Aluminum Fuel Cell (Weight reduction will be different depending on size of tank)
* Replace sunroof with solid plexiglass roof (Will weigh less than even cars without sunroofs)
* Cutout unneeded metal
* Cutout spare tire well and replace over with sheet metal
#12
Good info! Thanks.
Sadly fuel cells are a big deal with Lemons. Must be FIA rated or similar and as such cost real coin. I will be staying with stock tank as its not toooo bad and is nice and low.
Most everything else you list (and more) will be done.
Sadly fuel cells are a big deal with Lemons. Must be FIA rated or similar and as such cost real coin. I will be staying with stock tank as its not toooo bad and is nice and low.
Most everything else you list (and more) will be done.
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