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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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how in gods name do I remove this pulley?

The crankshaft pulley that hooks to the A/C? I am trying to do my timing belt but the damn thing is giving me hell! I dont have an impact wrench and I cant put it back together now cause I broke a piece of the pulley on accident. Any one have any ideas? It is a different pulley than in my FSM. In the manual it shows the pulley having bolts, but mine doesnt. I have an idea on how to get this one off but it will ruin the pulley, which means I either need to spend 200 for a new one or figure out how to get it off a junk car without ruining it. Any methods are greatly appreciated! Thanks
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Are you talking about the A/C pulley? I'm confused, because it sounds like your referring to both the A/C pulley and Crankshaft Pulley?

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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Duh

Its the same thing I guess. It is the pulley hooked onto the end of the crankshaft that drives the A/C and the power steering. I just had an ipifany though lol, I need to put it into gear so the thing doesnt move . I broke it cause I was trying to stop it from moving with vise grips. Hope someone learns from my mistake. Ill see how it goes in a few minutes when I go out there.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Jesus man, some of the most obvious things are costing me alot of money. For a new pulley it is going to set me back about $200. That SUCKS ***** for a stupid mistake like this.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Well there should be a bolt smack in the center of the pulley. To loosen then you either need to put a chain wrench on it or pull the starter and put a screwdriver in the flywheel to prevent the motor from turning. Then to pull off the pulley, you probably will need to rent a pulley puller to get it off.

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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Oh, BTW, you might wanna consider buying a UDP. Since the old one is goofed up. You'd have to find one however....Unorthodox makes them for our cars, probably can get from from 120-175 bucks. You will also need to get new P/S belt and A/C belt that are smaller....I have the Gatorbelt part number, and I can probably find the gates belt number as well.

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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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ok so it didnt work. I dont have the money right now to put the unorthadox pulleys on. There is a junkyard that has a few maximas close to me. I will try the flywheel thing I guess. What is a chain wrench? maybe that would be safer, I dont like the idea of a screwdriver in my flywheel
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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its about the same price as a new one. the dont have accessory pulleys though but that is cool I guess. I guess I should consider it. well see what happens.
Old Feb 12, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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did you take the nut out of the center? If so I used a 3 jaw puller and a wrench to turn the puller. You can rent these from autozone. If you can't find one i got one i could sell you cheap.

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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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I meant i have the pulley off your choice 87, 91 motor.
Old Feb 13, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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**** son, i think I may take you up on that. How much you want for it? You have any idea how much it weights? Ill give you $20 plus shipping
Old Feb 16, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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A trick I read about a long time ago, and have used many times without problems is as follows.

1. Remove a spark plug from a cylinder that is easy to get to.
2. Turn engine over by hand until the piston in that cylinder is near bottom dead center (you can look in the hole with a flashlight).
3. Shove as much polypropylene rope (like ski rope - it's fairly stiff) as you can get into the cylinder. Usually about 1.5 - 2 feet or so is enough.
4. Turn the engine over BY HAND in the direction you need to loosen (or tighten) the balancer bolt. When the rope compresses in the cylinder, rotation will stop. You can now use a cheater bar or whatever you need to break the big bolt loose. There is no risk of damaging anything, the wad of rope is soft and will have somewhat of a cushioning effect.
5. To reinstall the bolt, turn engine BY HAND in the opposite direction until it stops again. Now you can tighten the bolt. To remove rope, turn engine back a little in the opposite direction again, and just pull the rope out. Put the spark plug back in and you're done.

If you need a pulley, I think I might have one for an 87. If you go to a junkyard to get a pulley, keep in mind that the crankshaft nose diameter and the bolt that holds the pulley on are smaller on an 87 compared to an 88. I bought a used 88 motor to put in my 87 and found the pulleys to be different. Put a little anti-seize on the crankshaft before you put the pulley on and it will be easier to get off next time.
Old Feb 17, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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K I got the pulley off without too many problems. Now I have a question about my timing. the #1 cylinder (looking from the passenger side fender it is the left side, front) is at what I believe to be top dead center or close to it. Now the timing marks on the cam shafts dont line up with the marks (little bumps in the metal??) on the timing cover. the right hand side is off by two teeth. The engine runs fine right now I think so what does this mean? Was the timing advanced and if so for what purpose? Also the distributor is not in the same position as what the book says is top dead center. It is close but not there. What is top dead center just so I make sure. what I have right now is the #1 is at the on highest point it can go before it starts going back down again, is that right?
Thanks for quick replys
Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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You know, I think cylinder 1 maybe on the firewall side of the motor, closest to the timing belt, that's why it probably isn't lining up. I can't remember 100% sure.

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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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yeah that is the one I am talking about
Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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oops, misread your post. Now you are putting it at top dead center on it's compression stroke correct? I believe you have like that. If not, try the other cylinder as #1 and see if that works.

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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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so maybe someone advanced the timing or something or maybe what I think is TDC isnt really TDC. If I line one of the marks up all of them line up including the dist. But the cylinder isnt at the top of the compression stroke. it still has a little to go.
Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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the book says the one I am doing is #1. Oh well the damn thing runs fine, instead of playing with everything and worrying about it, I should just get the new timing belt in place and get everything back together. I guess I was just curious is all.
Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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Oh btw if anyone would like to know how I got the pulley off, I took the starter off and stuck a cold chizzle between the clutch and the flywheel then rotated the crank untill the chizzle hit the bellhousing. Came off like a breeze. Then I used a large three jaw puller and popped the biatch off. Nothin to it.
Old Feb 17, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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hahahahahhaha! That's funny bro! You were working really hard on that for a bit!

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