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Big_E-Dog 01-19-2011 01:16 PM

RWD 2nd gen Maxima..
 
doing the conversion with a vg30et and manual trans,

uploading pics now of where ive gotten so far

vernk 01-19-2011 01:58 PM

oh man, can't wait to see this, what rearend are you going to go with?

Big_E-Dog 01-19-2011 02:33 PM

either a m30 or z31, but its gonna be with a j30 lsd diff


pics

cleaned out the interior for welding and cutting

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...DSC01787-1.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01786.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01788.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01789.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01790.jpg


removed gastank and all rear suspension components


http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01792.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01791.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01797.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01796.jpg

the tunnel, looks like its gonna work but well see

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01795.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01798.jpg

as it sits now

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01794.jpg

Crusher103 01-19-2011 03:56 PM

This car never ends.

Rood 01-19-2011 04:28 PM

in for the count.

vernk 01-19-2011 06:31 PM

so a R200? are you doing the build with junk yard parts? if so keep in mind a pathfinder (not sure about the newer ones but early 90s for sure) rear end is also a R200. So if you have one with a tow package laying around in your parts picking areas..........

Hectic 01-19-2011 06:40 PM

Hope you enjoyed the last ride you took in your car.

chrome91 01-19-2011 06:41 PM

http://theycallmemarcoporno.com/files/fap.gif

hooooooooly crap you once again prove youre the king of 2nd gens, and lol at the easy button

once youre done this, submit it to Import Tuner. you will definitely get in with a RWD swap

Big_E-Dog 01-20-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by Hectic (Post 7897675)
Hope you enjoyed the last ride you took in your car.

ppl said the same thing when i said i was gonna go twin turbo.


heres the plan, swap in a z31 turbo vg30et and tranny get the project up and running, then move ing on to bigger and better things, vg30dett.


i love a good challenge!

chrome91 01-20-2011 10:33 AM

lol i have no doubts you can do it, if you can TT a 2nd gen yourself im sure youre more than capable

when you were TT did you get into any magazines or anything?

when this things done take it to Japan on the drift circuit and haul a55 :D

Rood 01-20-2011 07:21 PM

or take it to canada where everything is moar jdm

chrome91 01-20-2011 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rood (Post 7899139)
or take it to canada where everything is moar jdm

i would love that, some of the JDM guys here are pure Dbags, you would have no idea how much i would love for a TT 2nd gen to beat some of them. usually its the Supra guys that are just Aholes

CMax03 01-21-2011 06:21 AM

Great project Edog......Kill it man! Solid rearend or independent?

luvlexus101 01-21-2011 10:51 AM

looks like a heck of a project, good luck, I'm sure its gonna have its little problems and such to work out, best of luck

95 maxima se 01-21-2011 03:42 PM

nice, seems like everybody is going rwd

Mr. Blue Sky 01-21-2011 06:30 PM

nice long project you have ahead of yourself, but it will be great once everything is done. whenever I see you start one of these projects, it makes me want to start doing crazy stuff to my 2nd gen too.

t6378tp 01-22-2011 06:43 AM

Will you have any problems out of the police with w rwd swap, I remember you posting something along those lines about your tt swap

Big_E-Dog 01-22-2011 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by t6378tp (Post 7900720)
Will you have any problems out of the police with w rwd swap, I remember you posting something along those lines about your tt swap

well if i go with the rwd swap my choices of engines will be more broad,

the turbo wasnt legal due to the rwd engine using the fwd transmission, they say that emissions are different with different transes.

so if i go rwd ima open it all up(engine choice wise), but keep it nissan,

thinking vg30et first

dett

then if i get some balls and aint tired vh45

rear suspension: ima go for independent

chrome91 01-22-2011 09:39 PM

mang you need to come over here, no emissions :chuckle: hell you only need an initial inspection and after that, thats it and they dont care. most initial inspections are a joke too

consider a RB25/6 or no? more work because you have to move the firewall back and such to fit a I6 i suppose

misdeismo 01-23-2011 04:17 PM

man what a great project. wish i could take on custom work like this

Big_E-Dog 01-27-2011 06:21 AM

ok had time to work on it yesterday, took off all of the front suspension except for the strut/spring combo, taking off the brake mastr cylinder, its leaking, and the brake lines, might have to redo them depending on if i can use some from a donor car. will post pics up later on today, just got off of work its 6:30 AM and im tired

Big_E-Dog 01-29-2011 03:31 AM

updates!!

so i lifted the front and stripped it out.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01800.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01801.jpg

then called up someone on craigslist, and got this for cheap!!!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01808.jpg

240sx subframe!!

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01807.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01809.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01810.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01811.jpg

gonna rip it apart and stat with the "H" member and get it sized and weld up some brackets and start from there.

updating soon.

chrome91 01-29-2011 05:49 AM

holy crap :drool1:

CMax03 01-29-2011 12:42 PM

These guy is FOR REAL!!!!! YOU'VE GOT REALLY BIG BALLS!!!! HAIRY ONES @ THAT!!!!!! Do it Bro!

t6378tp 01-29-2011 12:53 PM

great time to install and cage to stiffen and support the body. Looks like you'll need them for the 240 rear and engine

chrome91 01-29-2011 05:46 PM

^ +1 i would add a cage while everything is out

Matt93SE 01-29-2011 09:25 PM

Definitely have your work cut out for you. be sure to get the rear subframe aligned properly and make sure your heights front and rear are consistent with the 240's measurements. having it tilted forward or back will affect the anti-squat and anti-dive properties of the subframe.

also, do you have any ideas for the front end? You're going to have to move the steering rack because it's in the way of the transmission. I've thought about this for quite a while, and have decided it's probably best to grab a front crossmember, steering rack, and spindles off a 240SX or a 300ZX. Since you're using a 240SX rear subframe, might as well just continue gutting that car and steal the front suspension from it as well.

I've been waiting to do the exact same thing with my VE, but have been focusing on building my S14 and getting my national racing license. I have a S14 parts car and a Z32 rear subframe, and I'll get to the Maxima eventually. BUT.. I'm going to keep the VE in it. a VG30DE tranny bolts right up to the VE, so that makes it pretty easy.

Good luck!

ClutchClownnn 01-29-2011 10:04 PM

thats gonna be one sickkk max when its all done

vernk 01-29-2011 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Matt93SE (Post 7910282)
also, do you have any ideas for the front end? You're going to have to move the steering rack because it's in the way of the transmission. I've thought about this for quite a while, and have decided it's probably best to grab a front crossmember, steering rack, and spindles off a 240SX or a 300ZX. Since you're using a 240SX rear subframe, might as well just continue gutting that car and steal the front suspension from it as well.

Good luck!

A S12 84-86 200sx could be a option also. I think everything before 84 is going to be steering box, but I could be wrong on that, I know the 83 200sx did. Might be hard to find one unless you know where one is. If you stick within a few years you might get lucky and the A arms will bolt right in, never took a ruler to the underside but might be worth a look into.

Big_E-Dog 01-30-2011 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Matt93SE (Post 7910282)
Definitely have your work cut out for you. be sure to get the rear subframe aligned properly and make sure your heights front and rear are consistent with the 240's measurements. having it tilted forward or back will affect the anti-squat and anti-dive properties of the subframe.

also, do you have any ideas for the front end? You're going to have to move the steering rack because it's in the way of the transmission. I've thought about this for quite a while, and have decided it's probably best to grab a front crossmember, steering rack, and spindles off a 240SX or a 300ZX. Since you're using a 240SX rear subframe, might as well just continue gutting that car and steal the front suspension from it as well.

I've been waiting to do the exact same thing with my VE, but have been focusing on building my S14 and getting my national racing license. I have a S14 parts car and a Z32 rear subframe, and I'll get to the Maxima eventually. BUT.. I'm going to keep the VE in it. a VG30DE tranny bolts right up to the VE, so that makes it pretty easy.

Good luck!


as for the subframe thats what im exactly gonna do, steal it from the 240sx.

just gonna need to get the engine and tranny from junkyard this wekend.

so far i mocked up the rear and cut out the spare tire insert for the 240 gastank.


this is gonna be *****in!!
post updated pics later

Big_E-Dog 01-30-2011 04:30 PM

ok heres the pics

the position it will most likely be at
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01812.jpg

and cleaned up the arms a bit

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01818.jpg

and the fitment with the tire tub removed

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01815.jpg


got my eyes on an 88 turbo motor and 5 speed tranny, gonna swoop it up this wekend

CMax03 01-30-2011 08:46 PM

Are you gonna have to weld reinforced gusset/plates into the unibody to attach the bolt too? So that the bolt doesn't ripped out of the unibody?

Matt93SE 01-30-2011 09:09 PM

There will need to be more than that done if it's going to hold any serious power.


Before you start mounting that subframe there, you might want to make some measurements as far as ride height and wheelbase. given how the subframe sits in my S14, you might need to cut some chassis apart to raise the subframe some more so the car doens't sit like a 4x4. I'll try to take some measurements of my S14 tomorrow. Those will be close enough for what you're doing right now.

Also keep in mind the diff isn't centered under the car. it's about 1" off center to the right. I *think* the mounts in the subframe are aligned to the chassis respective of the car's center line, but be aware of that as well before moutning the subframe. you don't want to try to center the diff in the car by moving the subframe around.

Big_E-Dog 01-31-2011 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Matt93SE (Post 7911767)
There will need to be more than that done if it's going to hold any serious power.


Before you start mounting that subframe there, you might want to make some measurements as far as ride height and wheelbase. given how the subframe sits in my S14, you might need to cut some chassis apart to raise the subframe some more so the car doens't sit like a 4x4. I'll try to take some measurements of my S14 tomorrow. Those will be close enough for what you're doing right now.

Also keep in mind the diff isn't centered under the car. it's about 1" off center to the right. I *think* the mounts in the subframe are aligned to the chassis respective of the car's center line, but be aware of that as well before moutning the subframe. you don't want to try to center the diff in the car by moving the subframe around.


yeah i noticed that the diff is off center so i cant go my the diff but by the frame itself, the front clange that ataches to the driveshaft is centered through the tunnel though going to go make brackets now hotugh.

Big_E-Dog 02-03-2011 03:59 PM

so i did some more fabbing today, removed the trunk floor almost completely, and got a bar and welded some tabs to it, now thw subframe is in the ideal position.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01819.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/DSC01822.jpg

the bar is just mocked into place for now, gonna go to the hardware store to get washers and heavy duty bolts to hold it into place, gonna drill through the bar and mount it to the body 2 in the middle and 2 on each of the strut compartments, just need to notch out some of the rear frame a bit and reinforce it for the control arm bracket so i picked up some square stock gonna weld it in there.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...DSC01823-1.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...DSC01825-1.jpg

then i can worry about welding in plates for the front of the subframe to bolt to.

then to start the front crossmember, should be easy, i mean a lot easier than mounting a rear subframe.

damn near done getting exciting!!!

Hectic 02-03-2011 07:44 PM

Well there's no turning back now. I wish you all the luck in the world, but you are nowhere close to "damn near done".

Keep it up though!

CMax03 02-03-2011 09:23 PM

How long have you been chopping and welding dude? You're very confident...are you gonna use a plumbob to locate the center?

Bassbreaker 02-04-2011 06:20 AM

in for this for sure

maximase86 02-04-2011 07:52 AM

Perhaps somewhere during this project, you'll get a real paint job? Nice job, E. Glad someone is still doing something to their 2nd gen.

S

Big_E-Dog 02-04-2011 08:34 AM

yep paint job is on the list, just thought of an amaxing ideal,

remake the trunk floor out of carbon fiber, so save weight from that big *** bar!!


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