How much do you guys think it would cost to fabricate a low-pressure turbo system for a 3rd gen??? I'm not talking 1/4 mile burner here, just a little extra power when you need it.

So wadda ya' think??

Can of worms anyone?

 

well to be honest.. a real low pressure turbo (pushing like 4-5PSI) would be a fairly easy build on a 3rd gen.. yeah sure you could get radical in your tuning playing with ported/polished parts, IC's (intercoolers for those abbreviation intolerant), custom ECU programs, swapping parts from other turbo'd cars (i.e. stuff that fits the turbo z31's), and all that jazz.. but for a real low buck low power (maybe a 30HP increase or so.. maybe a few more) I bet if you had the time, knowledge and tools... you could do the labor yourself and come away at $1500 or less.. depends on how your source your parts and such.. maybe less than that... hmmm you've intrigued me my good man... lets see... go with 1 radiator fan, get a z31 turbo (what are those?? t25's?), figure out the custom exhuast manifolds for the turbo kits.. and whalaa.. (well not quite that simple.. but close).. and just think.. thats a basic setup that would give you LOTS of room to toy with and tune out to see what you could get the most power out of... I dunno..

 

add a few more of those and the whole thing gets easier and easier.

I agree with what Justin said. a small turbo off a similar engine (Z31-T would be fine), and you wouldn't have to do too much tuning on the computer or anything like that. there's probably even enough room to use both radiator fans. I still think you could fit the turbo under the front manifold, between the radiator fan and the side of the engine. there's quite a bit of room there, and the intake/exhaust plumbing is very close.
dump a few PSI (4,5,6,7) into it and you've got yourself some easy, reliable power that won't go BOOM! in the night. (ahem, cheapo install using a NOS Xpress system. )

I'd say 30hp is on the conservative side.. maybe 30 hp if you kept the boost really low like 3-4 psi.. any more boost than that, and you'll be looking at more power.

Another thing about the small turbos is that they spool up more quickly than do large ones. thus, more "streetable" power. it sucks to stomp the gas then wait 5 sec for the turbo to spool up. using a small turbo won't give you those problems.


anyone for another beer?

 

what's a ruff estimate to have a supercharger made?
and would it be just as easy. The belt space in the 3rd gen's is 0 to none. real pain in the a$$.
but i want more then just a little power i want a good 80 to 100 hp jump.
what you guys think?
worth the time and money?

 

80 to 100 hps will probably mean more $$..IE engine internals and tranny upgrades. 30-40 seems reasonable on a stock engine..don't have to worry about something blowing up and you can keep your budget low.
Dan

 

why fab...i though nismo87 said that the Stillen headers in the 300ZX (VG) bolts right up to the 3rd gen VGs..so why not just swap them?? maybe that'll make it tight on space but that'll definitely keep the budget low. the only difficult part is joining the two pieces together and that's not AS bad as making exhaust manifolds..
thought? opinions?
Dan
no beer..maybe a can of soda?

 

Thanks guys, that's what I was hoping for. I'm not going to try and take on any M3's but a little power is the objective.

Smaller turbo, less spool up time, perfecto!!

Hmmmmmm, now for two small turbos... one for each bank.......

Do-able?
Mwaaaa, haaa, haaaaa

 

WOAH...two turbos?? i though it was one..hmm ok i guess that'll work too..but remember it's going to bump your $$ with 2 turbos.
Dan

 

Well one is probably more realistic, but why not go for broke, right?? I'll talk to a couple of people, I think one small turbo is the most realistic, and inexpensive (relativly) way to get some nice extra.... cheese.

 

yup i agree.
Dan

 

Just like I told you last night foolio! And Dan, the Stillen headers are for the N/A car. The VG manifolds you want are from Z31(84-89) 300zx turboes. VG30E-T

 

I'll just have one of Scott's buddies make me some nice VE30DE-T custom headers....

 

Get 2 sets made I would like the Chrome like Jet hot coating too

 

the VG one will fit on a VE?
Dan

 

Nope, we're talking VE to VE here.

 

 

just like all the 4 cylinder guys do. 3-6 psi easy. HKS Honda Accord and I think Saab feature one. the Saab runs a restrictor on the rear bank to balance the front/back exhuast restrictions.

 

supercharger and a single turbo
haww
i'm stuck on a supercharger
i want one bad

 

Saab's are inline 5's, Jeff

 

Uhhhh Mike....

2000 9-3 I-4t
2001 9-5Aero I-4t
1999 9-5 SE V6t

 

oh damn..mikey is wrong for once..
Dan

 

I think you should email/PM Jeff or Sam (Czar) on that one.

EDIT My bad I didn't mean to TTT this thread (archiver strikes again)

 

DAMN YOU! HEHE

 

Nice one Ari, are you trying to say something here?

LOL

 

I just figured it would be good for a laugh this morning. You'd be surprised how things have progress since last year. Who would have thought that WSP would have subframes or that we'd have a turbo VE before Mike built his .

 

I don't think that's a surprise to anyone...

 

If you can get any kind of deal on custom VE headers for use with a small turbo, I'm down.

 

like czar said it can't be done, right ****92 SE?

 

damn!!! when you know u have a old thread is when u barely remember what u wrote..LOL

 

Wow, that was posted back in September of 2000... I would have thought a thread that old would have been deleted from the database.

 

What's amazing is that I still remember that thread... "Easy as pie mix"

 

Sure you do. Your only a newbie so I don't think you remember this thread.. hehe j/k

 

newbie, eh?
Guess it doesn't matter that I've been around longer than maxima.org itself has, huh?
I guess most of us have, but oh well.

 

And I've been around longer than all of you..

So..

=)~

 

back to the issue at hand,how about a quad turbo setup,4 small turbochargers? nah i didnt think so either,but i was actually seriously considering 1 small turbo at about 5 psi intercooled,not more for speed and not even looks(fmic),but how many turbocharged maximas around? plus there really aint a better sound than a turbo spooling up followed by a pshhhhhh loud BOV,is it honestly realistic?like if cost only like 2k to fabricate,then people would have done it by now im sure,right? i have a VG 5spd and i like racin but not a track junky,like id like to have a daily driven and possible a low PSI turbo setup where i can take it to the track maybe a few times a year and beat it and still takes me home with no problems,and i read the sticky and seen it sayin if you run a manual trans,then an upgraded clutch would really be the only thing needed drivetrain wise on a manual,i dont really like startin threads about turbo'ing a VG cause im not serious about it yet cause i dont have the $$,but i always read whenever someone posts about it,and is there anyone out ther with a VG maxima turbo conversion

 

Well I'm not exactly sure when you were around... Must have been when you were 14 yrs old or something. I was around since 1997. There was no Maxima.org. There was only Max Owner sites. I haven't really seen any modded maximas on the internet back then (except ghetto ones w/chrome rims, blackouts, tinted windows). Actually, Vitaly's max was the first modded 3rd gen I've ever seen on the internet. Me and him started talking back then. All I remember was being on the Maxima Mailing List that Andi B. started. That was interesting.. got like 100 e-mails a day!!! I remember Russ's old site www.maxima.ml.org There was also Jeff K.'s (original MegaMax) that had a site. Also Justin G.'s site and Edward's site. I remember Vitaly trying to start a 4DSC site. Those were the days.. I even remember when Climax was around and nobody believed how fast his car was so he disappeared. I also remember how Shawn Tran started the design for the 4th gen Y-pipe. And I remember Chris's 96 Yellow Max. Does anyone remember this? He said he had 2 maximas.. One was Yellow that had a 6-spd tranny and a badass system (because he was a DJ). He was trying to fool everyone with his yellow maxima and everyone kept asking for pics and he never posted any. The reason why I remember all this stuff is because I'm a newbie

 

You've got nothing newbie! I was on Evan's site back and the day, and then Andi/ST's LightSpeed one after that. Then Maximanet, then Andi's again, then it switched to Russ, then to someone else, then to Jambo I think.

 

I remember Evan's site. Andi & ST's LightSpeed site didn't last too long. I still have a pic of the LightSpeed logo on my computer.. lol

 

So whats the deal here!
Can i do this to my VE? Has anyone made a write up or is there a place to get info on all parts and info needed to do this? If not anyone want to test making it on my max?

 

write up on a turbo? if you need a write up on how to turbo your car, then you most likely shouldnt turbo your car. simple as that