brake upgrade
01-17-2003, 05:57 PM
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brake upgrade
i saved up about 500 dollars now. i was wondering if this is enough for a good brake upgrade. i still have stock rims and tires. any brand recomendations? brembo would be nice but seems too expensive. any suggestions? thanks
01-17-2003, 06:39 PM
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Re: brake upgrade
Originally posted by Fosgate Fan
i saved up about 500 dollars now. i was wondering if this is enough for a good brake upgrade. i still have stock rims and tires. any brand recomendations? brembo would be nice but seems too expensive. any suggestions? thanks
i saved up about 500 dollars now. i was wondering if this is enough for a good brake upgrade. i still have stock rims and tires. any brand recomendations? brembo would be nice but seems too expensive. any suggestions? thanks
01-17-2003, 07:21 PM
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Re: Re: brake upgrade
Originally posted by karguy
You have more than enough! There is a group deal on Brembo cross drilled and slotted rotors - all 4 rotors for $180 plus about $33 for shipping. Raybestos Quiet Stop Ceramic Pads at Pep Boys - $102 for front and rear pads. Goodridge Stainless Steel Lines - $115 plus shipping. Synthetic High Temp Grease and CRC Anti Squeal compound $6 at Pep Boys. Front caliper pins if needed $23 for all 4 at Advance Auto. 3 cans of Brake Cleaner Spray - $6 for all 3 at any parts store. The Raybestos Pads come with self adhesive brake pad shims so I don't think you'll need brake kits. If you get pads w/o shims you might consider brake kits..........
You have more than enough! There is a group deal on Brembo cross drilled and slotted rotors - all 4 rotors for $180 plus about $33 for shipping. Raybestos Quiet Stop Ceramic Pads at Pep Boys - $102 for front and rear pads. Goodridge Stainless Steel Lines - $115 plus shipping. Synthetic High Temp Grease and CRC Anti Squeal compound $6 at Pep Boys. Front caliper pins if needed $23 for all 4 at Advance Auto. 3 cans of Brake Cleaner Spray - $6 for all 3 at any parts store. The Raybestos Pads come with self adhesive brake pad shims so I don't think you'll need brake kits. If you get pads w/o shims you might consider brake kits..........
looks like that's on YOUR list
01-17-2003, 07:31 PM
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Re: Re: Re: brake upgrade
Originally posted by Sudesh
Yeah..i don't reccomend investing $500 into stock sized brakes. doesn't quite make sense. Search for the prices of a big brake upgrade.
Yeah..i don't reccomend investing $500 into stock sized brakes. doesn't quite make sense. Search for the prices of a big brake upgrade.
01-17-2003, 08:45 PM
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I have Brembo slotted rotors, and unless you just really like the idea of having them or the way they look, I would just buy some Brembo blanks. They will work just as well as the x-drilled or slotted rotors. Not very expensive at all. Then get some good brake pads (I love my Axxis Metal Master pads!) and some stainless steal lines and you are set. You'll probably have some money left over as well.
Going to a larger sized rotor can be hard using the stock wheel size, as mentioned. Even if you did look into this, I wouldn't go buy some expensive big brake kit, I would use some 300zx parts and come up with something.
Going to a larger sized rotor can be hard using the stock wheel size, as mentioned. Even if you did look into this, I wouldn't go buy some expensive big brake kit, I would use some 300zx parts and come up with something.
01-17-2003, 10:11 PM
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yea that's my only problem...my stock rims. Plus i'm not planning to get any rims in the near future, most of my money goes to my university. 
. i just want something that will perform better than what i have now. there aren't any good stock-sized brake upgrades? most of the cars i see on here have like 17s. will just changing the pads to a better one improve any on my stock rotors? thanks again.
. i just want something that will perform better than what i have now. there aren't any good stock-sized brake upgrades? most of the cars i see on here have like 17s. will just changing the pads to a better one improve any on my stock rotors? thanks again.
01-17-2003, 11:39 PM
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I've seen good results from Axxis metal master pads and SS brake lines. I agree with getting brembo blanks the slotted - X drilled would be just for looks in your case.
Originally posted by Fosgate Fan
yea that's my only problem...my stock rims. Plus i'm not planning to get any rims in the near future, most of my money goes to my university. . i just want something that will perform better than what i have now. there aren't any good stock-sized brake upgrades? most of the cars i see on here have like 17s. will just changing the pads to a better one improve any on my stock rotors? thanks again.
yea that's my only problem...my stock rims. Plus i'm not planning to get any rims in the near future, most of my money goes to my university.
. i just want something that will perform better than what i have now. there aren't any good stock-sized brake upgrades? most of the cars i see on here have like 17s. will just changing the pads to a better one improve any on my stock rotors? thanks again.
01-17-2003, 11:40 PM
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Buy some SS brake lines, and some nice Metallic Pads (www.eatricezone.com) and you will be in good shape.
If you want to get new discs, go for Brembo blanks. Don't mess with slotted or drilled.
If you want to get new discs, go for Brembo blanks. Don't mess with slotted or drilled.
01-18-2003, 12:05 AM
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Hey I just changed my stock gear to Power Stop X-Drilled Rottors and some EBC Green Stuff Pads.... They are noisey at first until they break in, but they stop good as hell. Way better than the stock stuff. Pads $67 Rotors $120
01-18-2003, 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by Lordrandall
Buy some SS brake lines, and some nice Metallic Pads (www.eatricezone.com) and you will be in good shape.
If you want to get new discs, go for Brembo blanks. Don't mess with slotted or drilled.
Buy some SS brake lines, and some nice Metallic Pads (www.eatricezone.com) and you will be in good shape.
If you want to get new discs, go for Brembo blanks. Don't mess with slotted or drilled.
Goodrich SS lines
Axxis MM pads
Brembos blanks
01-18-2003, 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Fosgate Fan
those brembo blanks at eatricezone...they will fit my stock rims right? wanna make sure before i order.
those brembo blanks at eatricezone...they will fit my stock rims right? wanna make sure before i order.
01-18-2003, 05:05 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: brake upgrade
Originally posted by karguy
My concern with big brake kit is that he has stock rims, don't big brake kits require larger rims?
My concern with big brake kit is that he has stock rims, don't big brake kits require larger rims?
ah yes, good point. I neglected to pay attention to that point in his message. Thanks
01-18-2003, 06:06 PM
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just curious, do these metal brake pads produce more or less brake dust? i kinda hate cleaning my rims from all the brake dust buildup. i know all pads will produce brake dust but how does the axxis pads compare to stock units?
01-18-2003, 06:12 PM
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they Axxis pads are a little worse on dust than stock pads, but they're not bad. they're about the least-dusting of any good pad out there. you'll be very happy with them.
Also.. the brembo discs only come in one size for our car. unless you order something that does not belong on a Max, then you'll get the right ones. all 3rd and 4th gen front brakes (pads, rotors, calipers) are the same.. rear pads are the same, but the calipers and rotors are slightly different.
anyway, just tell him what car you've got and he'll make sure you get the right stuff.
Also.. the brembo discs only come in one size for our car. unless you order something that does not belong on a Max, then you'll get the right ones. all 3rd and 4th gen front brakes (pads, rotors, calipers) are the same.. rear pads are the same, but the calipers and rotors are slightly different.
anyway, just tell him what car you've got and he'll make sure you get the right stuff.
01-18-2003, 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by Fosgate Fan
just curious, do these metal brake pads produce more or less brake dust? i kinda hate cleaning my rims from all the brake dust buildup. i know all pads will produce brake dust but how does the axxis pads compare to stock units?
just curious, do these metal brake pads produce more or less brake dust? i kinda hate cleaning my rims from all the brake dust buildup. i know all pads will produce brake dust but how does the axxis pads compare to stock units?
My only experience Is with Raybestos Quiet Stop Ceramic Pads and OEM pads. The QS pads produce significantly less brake dust than OEM. In my case both pads were very quiet.
01-18-2003, 06:34 PM
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OR.... you could buy some aftermarket parts and build a brake kit like I did for about $550.. 
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pics/car/brakes/
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pics/car/brakes/
01-19-2003, 07:15 AM
#22
thanks for all the info guys. i had a few close calls when the guy driving in front of me slammed his brakes for whatever reason and when i try to do a hard brake....i still kept going. my brakes works fine but i want better response and stopping power. i had to swerve onto the shoulders to avoid hitting him. that's why i decided to do an brake upgrade. thanks again for all the replies.
~fosgate fan
~fosgate fan
01-19-2003, 10:18 AM
#23
Originally posted by Fosgate Fan
thanks for all the info guys. i had a few close calls when the guy driving in front of me slammed his brakes for whatever reason and when i try to do a hard brake....i still kept going. my brakes works fine but i want better response and stopping power. i had to swerve onto the shoulders to avoid hitting him. that's why i decided to do an brake upgrade. thanks again for all the replies.
~fosgate fan
thanks for all the info guys. i had a few close calls when the guy driving in front of me slammed his brakes for whatever reason and when i try to do a hard brake....i still kept going. my brakes works fine but i want better response and stopping power. i had to swerve onto the shoulders to avoid hitting him. that's why i decided to do an brake upgrade. thanks again for all the replies.
~fosgate fan
if your stock rotors are in good shape still, but buy some better pads. that's the first and cheapest upgrade I would do and can make a WORLD of difference in the braking.
01-19-2003, 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Fosgate Fan
thanks for all the info guys. i had a few close calls when the guy driving in front of me slammed his brakes for whatever reason and when i try to do a hard brake....i still kept going. my brakes works fine but i want better response and stopping power. i had to swerve onto the shoulders to avoid hitting him. that's why i decided to do an brake upgrade. thanks again for all the replies.
~fosgate fan
thanks for all the info guys. i had a few close calls when the guy driving in front of me slammed his brakes for whatever reason and when i try to do a hard brake....i still kept going. my brakes works fine but i want better response and stopping power. i had to swerve onto the shoulders to avoid hitting him. that's why i decided to do an brake upgrade. thanks again for all the replies.
~fosgate fan
01-19-2003, 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
OR.... you could buy some aftermarket parts and build a brake kit like I did for about $550..
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pics/car/brakes/
OR.... you could buy some aftermarket parts and build a brake kit like I did for about $550..
http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pics/car/brakes/
01-19-2003, 12:01 PM
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oh yeah... no, that's actually several different jobs...
front wilwood kit cost be about $550 to build. I MADE the brackets.
the parts I purchased were:
Skyline R32 GTR front rotors. 12.2" x 1.25" $~250
wilwood dynalite calipers for 1.25" thick rotors. $~250
Wilwood Q series pads ~$50
Plus a few mics brake line fittings to adapt the goodridge SS lines to fit these calipers. $10-15.
the Powerslot rotors you see are new STOCK SIZED Max rotors. I had purchased those and then decided to build a big brake kit.. I simply held them up for comparison. sold them to another member a loooong time ago.
the REAR brake upgrade only cost me about $80 for new stock-sized Z31 rear rotors. believe they were from an '89.
use a caliper bracket from an 89-90 Max, and a caliper from a 91-94 Max and it's strictly bolt on.. the holes line up perfectly. only problem is that you need to make sur ethe parking brake cables are the same for the calipers you use. they have about 4 different ways to attach to the caliper, so just make sure you get the right one.
front wilwood kit cost be about $550 to build. I MADE the brackets.
the parts I purchased were:
Skyline R32 GTR front rotors. 12.2" x 1.25" $~250
wilwood dynalite calipers for 1.25" thick rotors. $~250
Wilwood Q series pads ~$50
Plus a few mics brake line fittings to adapt the goodridge SS lines to fit these calipers. $10-15.
the Powerslot rotors you see are new STOCK SIZED Max rotors. I had purchased those and then decided to build a big brake kit.. I simply held them up for comparison. sold them to another member a loooong time ago.
the REAR brake upgrade only cost me about $80 for new stock-sized Z31 rear rotors. believe they were from an '89.
use a caliper bracket from an 89-90 Max, and a caliper from a 91-94 Max and it's strictly bolt on.. the holes line up perfectly. only problem is that you need to make sur ethe parking brake cables are the same for the calipers you use. they have about 4 different ways to attach to the caliper, so just make sure you get the right one.
01-19-2003, 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
if your stock rotors are in good shape still, but buy some better pads. that's the first and cheapest upgrade I would do and can make a WORLD of difference in the braking.
if your stock rotors are in good shape still, but buy some better pads. that's the first and cheapest upgrade I would do and can make a WORLD of difference in the braking.
01-19-2003, 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Fosgate Fan
i inspected my rotors today. everything seems fine, no visible cracks etc. what are other signs of a bad rotor? i'll just get those axxis pads for now and see how i like them. i'll get the rotors later on if i want more braking power.
i inspected my rotors today. everything seems fine, no visible cracks etc. what are other signs of a bad rotor? i'll just get those axxis pads for now and see how i like them. i'll get the rotors later on if i want more braking power.
01-19-2003, 05:47 PM
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at least have them turned..
the only other spec on the factory rotors is the thickness.. if they can be turned and not be cut too thin, then you're fine. otherwise, plan on replacing the rotors.
BTW.. you still won't get any more "stopping power" with slotted rotors.. they're the same size as factory ones and made of the same metals. thus they won't benefit you much.. the difference is in HOW they're made, so they don't warp or crack as quickly as cheap rotors. that just means you won't blow them up as quickly if you drive like me...
the only other spec on the factory rotors is the thickness.. if they can be turned and not be cut too thin, then you're fine. otherwise, plan on replacing the rotors.
BTW.. you still won't get any more "stopping power" with slotted rotors.. they're the same size as factory ones and made of the same metals. thus they won't benefit you much.. the difference is in HOW they're made, so they don't warp or crack as quickly as cheap rotors. that just means you won't blow them up as quickly if you drive like me...
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