I would like to see a link if someone has done this already. I can get a 93 SE w/o motor real cheap.

 

No, SC's suck, everyone goes turbo.

 

yup turbo is the way to go, I just need $5000.00 to get one installed. Where the hell am I going to get $5000.00.

 

$5000??? wtf

 

where are u located. Commerce bank is open 7 days a week

 

search for "my ve turbo"

 

Yeah I know it's a lot of money but it's being installed by somebody that knows what he's doing and definitely not ****ing anything up. I wont be doing it anytime soon I have to work a lot to make $5000.00.

 

Oh, that's why it's not a DIY job. If you were gonna do it yourself it'll cost you like a third of that from what I've seen from everybody else here going turbo.

 

actually they blow

 

Acutally Superchargers are much more reliable than Turbos.

 

thats a pretty general statemen...how do you mean?? the entire system as a whole or the units itself??

 

Well since turbos run off exhaust gasses (which are dirty) thay can get crapped up real easy. If you have a good intercooler and good PM on the turbo you can get some good wear out of it, but if not...

Superchargers run off the drive belt and pull FRESH air in so there is less crap to worry about.

Thats it.

 

please show me a some valid examples of turbos "crapping up" due to dirty exhaust gas.

 

yeah i know.

mr.knowitall thinks that exhaust gas has crap in it..

so your telling me.. that after a few years that your exhaust system becomes clogged? so you need to replace it every now and then?

 

check here for starts

http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?id=19

 

i just read that whole thing.. said nothing about how exhaust gas's can crap up the turbo..

just states that residue oil "Can" bake on the bearings.. but nothing a Turbo timer can fix.

 

if you take crap as a literal interpretation you have your own issues

But... unburned fuel going through those tiny veins over time will varnish them a bit. Get the intercooler and keep the turbo cool!!

 

geez your a total noob..

i have a question for you
does an intercooler cool the turbo or the air?

 

but anyway I don't have either, but if I had to choose one I would pick the supercharger, but that is my preference.

 

answer my question

 

well if we continue this conversation much further the post will be removed. So I will end it here.

you know the answer...the air

 

calm down man. the guy was just making a simple opinion, no need to get all fired up about it.

 

Thanks man I guess us "noobs" have to stick together to fend off the wolves

 

haha im not mad, just trying to see if the guy knew what he was talking about

b/c of this statement

 

that is some funny ****.

If turbos are so dirty, why do car manufacturers put them on their cars stock? why arent they all running s/c's?

ever heard of a wastegate? anyways most of the stuff gets burned in the combustion chamber, also exhaust does escape through the other end of the turbo.

 

And how many switched to NA which used to have turbos???

 

name some, I can think of some.

And of course they did it cause they get the same amount of power out of the n/a engine now.

 

saw some guy at the local import shot with a 2000 se, was running a stillen supercharger. the car was so sweet, im was following him out of the shop and he just blazed down the road.

 

well you have the eclipse, the Z or course to name a few. Why else would they do it??? Perhaps it is cheaper to just put a better NA in than the turbo or maintenance is cheaper?

 

what car manufacters do is their business.. it still doesnt mean that turbos are un-reliable.

Look at the new Dogde Neon SRT, Subaru WRX, Mitsu's new Lancer, they are all turbo

 

mainly because turbos drive the costs of the vehicles up. that's the reason the Z, supra and RX-7 had production stopped. the cars were just too expensive to purchase AND insure...now it's a little easier and finally NA motors are putting out good #'s again

 

well let me ask this question. Are there any bolt on turbos out there for any generation maxima commercially?

 

nope...just custom jobs

 

Thank you and good night

 

doesn't prove any points. there just wasn't a market for them. now that more and more are appearing i would imagine some company will be making/distributing them. a few years ago an SC was a rarity on a Maxima

 

The 3Z and Supra were just too expensive for their own good, and the RX-7, well... Mazda lost their anus in warranty claims for the quirky little Wankel powering them (for those that don't know... they liked to explode... A LOT). That and BLOODY SUVS!!! There was a huge drop in demand for any "preformance" machines around the mid 90's cause everyone wanted to bling bling in their rides yo.


*throws signs and crosses arms*






At least now that the demand is there were starting to see the release of some sportier offerings (granted the majority of them are more to the rice side of the market). I still can't believe they offered a convertible 3-5Z before a turboed one (or one with T-tops for that matter). I just wish they'd come out with the R34 here, then I'd be happy.

 

Holy geez... all the misinformation here is literally amazing. Hardly any of you have made a valid point for one side or the other.

production cars have both SC and turbo on them, depending on the application, engine, and power requirements.

how many SCs do you see on big trucks? they're ALL running turbos the size of your head.

how many turbos do you see on Mustangs? they're out there, but the majority stick a blower on.

reliable? which is more reliable? It all comes down to proper care and feeding of the car. SCs have belts that need constant changing. turbos require a constant supply of clean oil.

both can go for over 100k miles without problems IF they're maintained correctly. once you get them installed, the maintenance for each pretty much evens out.

 

Also depends on the pressure your running, the reason why most would say scs are reliable is because you hardly hear of any blowing up. But that's because they're running mild boost, any turbo with comparable boost pressure should last the same if it's made for it. You only get explosive turbos when you're running high boost on a charger that wasn't meant for it.

 

Know when to say when.

 

reminds me of the days when I used to street race (the real kind not this crap where they race on busy roads like they do now) when a friend of mine with a bad and I mean bad Buick GN and another guy with a very fast NA 'Cuda arguing about which is better.

The only point that stuck in my mind over the arguement was made by the guy with the 'Cuda and it was this.

Why are there no Top Fuel funny cars running turbos instead of blowers?

This was probably 10 years ago (cant remember) and I havent kept up with racing but dont think there is a TF turbo set up.

There are obvious pros and cons to both

I saw the dyno numbers someone posted the other day and the turbo is definately the way to go on the maxima.

I will however have a small roots type blower (eaton) bolted onto my lower manifold (in place of my upper manifold) one day just for the cool factor since I am not into racing anymore...you wait when I am finished with the body and paint and I can save for other stuff I am going to have my friend look into it and see if he can make a sheetmetal manifold adaptor to make it work and a TB adaptor to bolt the TB up to the blower body...

Please guys yall know me here and I am only thinking right now and havent researched it yet but I believe it can be done...so no flaming.