I've been thinking about this lately... I don't have the cash now, but in during the summer; would it be better to give my 91 GXE to my little sister (new tranny, new motor mounts, will have new injectors), and get myself a 92-94 VE, but probably at LEAST have to pay to get the VTC's fixed, or eventually get a turbo on the max? I don't know to much about this, or how great the gains would be (I know it'd be faster then a stock VE), but my mechanic friend thinks it would cost about $1000-$1500?
Or would it be better to get the VE, assuming that I might need to get alot of stuff replaced?



Also, I need new rotors on the front, what would be the best to put on for city driving(never gone to the track, but do want something that'll be better than stock)? The pads are don't have long on them either...

 

asuming your curent max is an auto i would get the ve just for the 5spd unless you want an auto

 

Yeah, I have an auto I would MUCH rather have a 5 spd (the 85 volvo station wagon was stick), but none of my sisters can drive stick, and I've heard some talk that even on auto, if you know how to, you can still keep up there. I'm not sure, but that was also something I'm considering (money vs. power... need the better deal on both)

 

get a VE 5 spd and turbo it when you get more funds.. it's just as easy to turbo as a VG.

 

I saw a VE turbo in person this weekend

 

was it 4signs or someone we dont know

 

It was 4signs.

 

I hate to say it, but if you had a lot of trouble as it is maintaining your n/a VG...a VG turbo is not the way to go for you..its a VERY involved process!!! just being real with you

 

Do you mean that being Turbo, it would be alot harder to maintain? What kind of gains would the VG turbo be to, say the VE turbo(assuming both are possible and would cost relatively the same)?
Would it be worth going for the VE? I mean, idealy, I would like to just by the VE, and I'd have a nicer, faster car. But then there is the additional price, finding the kind of car I would want (one that isn't white, and has been taken care of fairly well, inside and out), and finally, all the stuff that goes wrong with out cars (with mine, I still need front rotors, front axel, front suspension, and injectors), and the VE may need all that plus coils, VTC's, engine mounts, ect!

In other words, I've put some money into this car (in august bought it for $2800, new tranny =$2,000, motor mounts ~$550, 1 injector = $550, and with 2 lean injectors, I'm putting $30 a week in gas!)
How can I not get screwed if I buy the VE (assuming I can find one)?

 

first, you can learn to work on your own car. that would have saved you over $1000 in the last three things alone.

and YES, maintenance will obviously be higher on a turbo'd car than a non-turbo'd car with the same engine. you'll go through tires, brakes, oil, etc much faster. that leads to other problems such as engine mounts and crossmembers snapping, wheel bearings, other slow-wearing items will wear much faster and all will need to be replaced.
if you saw the list of stuff I've had to replace in the last year because of how I drive, you'd never shift past 2500rpm again...

 

maintenence is relative, but if you had a HARD time maintaining your n/a VG, you might wanna get some more "wrench time" before you venture into maintaining a turbo car! my $.02...

IMO...

gains are dependent on cost...more money spent usually = more gains

quality is dependent on cost...more money put in usually = better end product

if you have the money, time, EXPERIENCE, and knowledge above all, than boost away...

 

Just get a 5-sp VE, that's a 30hp increase right there.

 

Yeah, you guys make sense. But, if I was to aim at the SE, wouldn't it be best to go for a 4th gen? I heard(??) that in 94 and afterwards, nissan said they corrected the issues with the VTC's? (I've only heard this once, so am not to sure)
Or is there a different car you would have prefered to have, that is comparable to the max? I'd rather have a camaro (for speed), if only it came with 4 doors...
Those are my two things, I want something fast, yet luxurious.. maybe a little tough(the mamima fits them all for me!).

 

well if you want somthing fast with 4 doors buy a ve 5spd then spend about 15 to 20 hours a week on the internet reseaching how to work on your car and what is needed to turbo it and 5 hours a week acually working on your car, buy a factory service manual and use the step buy step instructions on how to take stuff apart and replace it and after about 6 months of research and hands on experience you could make your car very reliable and very fast much faster than any stock camero even an ss 6spd they only run like mid 13's and with the right turbo setup you could be in the 12's easy just takes some personal commitment

and your right they did fix the vtc thing on the 4th gens WHICH START IN 95 but they can be fixed buy YOU for about 200$ but if your not up to the task of learning how to take care of your car then it would proboly be best if you got a 4th gen since they seem to have less problems although dont quote me on that

 

definitly go with the VE 5spd. i drive a VG stick, and this weekend i had the chance to drive a VE 5spd that was just sitting at the dealership. the difference is quite shocking. and i thought the the VG engine was quick.

 

I know what you mean, but thats a hard comparison to make, because probably with half the money you spend on turboing the Max(it will get up there!!), the Camaro(Z28 or ss) will still be easier to make just as fast if not faster.

but if you want 4 doors, decent power and luxury another alternative to the Maxima is BMW, but thats if you can afford something decent! the later model 3-seires seem to have a decent aftermarket too.

 

thats true it would be alot easier and cheaper to make a camero run 12's but its the initial cost of the camero that hurts plus i work with 2 guys that have cameros, one runs 12's the other 11's but how many people do i work with or even know that have a maxima that runs 12's thats right NONE

 

4thGens don't have VTCs. They were eliminated from the design.

 

Good to know... Makes me wonder what exactly they did and how they replaced them... This thread has helped. I think I'll aim for a 4th gen, But is there any drawbacks? Yeah, this'll take me a good year to save up.... I do think a BMW would be an ultimately fun car, (seen the transporter ), but thats WAY out of my price range, I'd probably have to wait until I graduated college.

But to learn about cars, a place with the most information would be the howstuffworks website? Are there many general "get to know cars" places? I'd love to learn alot more about cars, and am willing to put the time into it, but am not sure how far I can go with just myself? Computers I had a basic understanding, but then I learned everything from the internet, would it be the same way?
Thank you everyone, I'll have something to look forward to.

 

 

If you need a faster car, and would like turbo, why don't you consider a 300ZX TT?

 

the whole point is if he had trouble fixing his Max, doing maintenence on a TTZ would be even worse! not to mention whenever you take it to a shop they get you for every penny on repairs. my advice is start small, then you can mess with the "big" cars.

 

mmmm boost

 

yummay...mmmmmmmmmmm