Alright, I know ill catch something for this but I want know what the JDM engine has for base horse power. Why I ask is because my friend has an 87 Honda accord which has some crappy little 98 horse or around there anyway. And he found that the JDM version of his engine would give him 160 horses, and that it is a direct bolt in for his car. What difference is there for our cars? I'm not saying that I want my maxima to be the fastest car on the road but I need to be able to beat his car. I couldn't let myself lose to an 87 accord, especially his.

 

JDM version 500hp

 

really? ::eyes wide open with evil thoughts::

 

yeah JDM version is the shiznit....but man those 87 Accords, whew we....those cars are crazy fast man

 

youll have to TURBO your car to beat him

 

hahaha....be nice guys.

 

yeah Jeff, you jerk...you know the JDM version only has 350hp

 

jdm is the same hp, he's proabably getting a bigger engine not the exavt same one, you can do that with hondas. btw you should be able to beat him with the new engine as well. your cars got 160hp stock.

 

i doght hell be able to beat him if they have the same HP because that honda proboly wieghs like 500lb less than his max

and he'll definity lose if its a stick

those swaped hondas are no joke ive ran some there quick

 

but his car is lighter than my car is

 

first of all what motor is he putting in the Accord?? the only 160hp JDM motor I know of is the B16...and if you put a B16 into an Accord I can garuntee it won't be ASTOUNDINGLY fast at all...off the line will be a wet sloppy ***** in that heavy chasis! an H-series is the only hope for a **** poor 87 Accord...if even possible

EDIT: and if its the H23a from the Prelude, I'm 99.9% sure thats a USDM only motor...its the only other Honda motor with 160hp

 

if i had to put money on the race it would be on the honda

sure it wieghs more than a crx but its still lighter than a max

 

true, but torque is big factor though...B16 in a really heavy car isn't very optimal..111tq ain't moving **** (like an Accord)

but I think the motor his friend wants is the H23a...160hp/150tq(dohc, non-vtec I think)....IMO stock/stock the race will most likly be even I'd say

 

well he lacks fuel injection...

 

is it carb'd?? most mid 80s hondas did run cabrs until ~88...so he'll have to convert to MFPI in order to run the H23 motor I assume

 

yeah i remember him sayin something about that being a bigger problem in the whole operation

 

now another friend is telling me that there is no jdm engine for the maxima. what gives and why will no one give me an answer?

 

you can get jdm vg30e's but they are no more powerful than the engine currently in your car.

 

i have a JDM engine in my car as we speak

i know a few people on here have them but there the same HP as stock

 

if his max is in good shape and he's recently tuned it and all...the 4 banger shouldnt be much of a competition. The 87 isnt very high on torque.


how will he switch to MPFI from a carburated engine? wouldnt he need an ECU for that and a whole bunch of wiring? how will he install that all? if it can be done i'd be interested to know how and what he did.

 

hell if I know, I was only guessing. I've seen DPFI to MPFI conversion before on a DX CRX...but as far as carb to MPFI...I'm 100% clueless
but its been done before cause I've seen 2-3 87 CRXs with B16s in them on HT...and the 87s were originally carbd

dpfi to mpfi conversion is pretty simple though-->
http://www.4thgenerationcivic.com/how-to's/mpfi_conversion.htm

 

my buddy has a 79 VW Sirrocco that was a carb and he put in a 96 G60 from a corrado...( i think hehehe)

 

i personally think it will come down to wether or not the accord is a stick or auto

if auto it will close if stick he can just drop the clutch at 6k and have all the tire spinning torq he needs

and i looked up the wieght of an 86 which is the same and they weigh 2529lb which is what like 700lbs lighter than the max come on its no contest the honda will win

 

when I had my gxe I took some b16's stick and auto, alot depends on the driver. so its not no contest.

 

my friend with the 87 accord found out that the automatic transmission in that car is actually better for racing than the stick is. it was done in a test between the stick and the auto. they raced them multiple times and then they even switched the drivers just so that it wasnt the driver and the auto came out on top. and his car currently isnt in the best shape but it has alot of new parts cause stuff keeps breaking, so now when something breaks he just finds out where it is under warranty at.

 

contest or no contest...i am not losing to a honduh...even in theory!!

 

fine...but we also got two extra cylinders

btw...i was beating hondas eeeeasily with my previos 89 auto with one failed injector and original transmission and 160k on the car...i had only done a tune up and all i used to do was floor the pedal and look at the honda in the rear view mirror...that was in chicago

 

Either both your friends are bad with stick shift, the clutch is slipping, or there is some other underlying factor. Automatics simply have more losses than a manual transmission.

 

its the way that the transmission is on the 3rd gen accords

 

No actualy the 3rd gen accords have top secret special tranmissions, unlike ANY other car.

 

you all just haven't raced the right ones yet

 

i second that

 

What is this, "honda.org" ???
JDM max has same power as USDM because engine designed for USDM. Want more power? VG33DE gives another 8hp & if you bore that out to 3.5 liters, probably another 2hp (that's my next project...).

 

....which is EXACTLY what I was gonna ask!!



And is that your FINAL answer?? Maybe we should let Aaron92SE hear about THAT. I'm sure he'd give us a different point-of-view.

 

Even if he did put a H22 in the honda, you'd prob still smoke him. I killed a 99 prelude when my car (stock) wasnt running very well and had heavy azz eclipse wheels that didnt fit right and worn out unbalanced 215/50 series tires.

 

so u took out the engine from that honda and u gonna tie a couple of horses in front of it ...REAL HORSE POWAA BABY!!! (sir, would u like rice with that)

 

 

total difference though...a VE yes, but a VG is way too iffy...H22A(200hp/150tq, dohc vetc) in anything lighter than the Maxima will beat the VG stock/stock, power curves differ totally, but no way the VG will keep up if the H22 in the topend especially if the motor is in something lighter than the Max

and I love when VG guys make fun of Hondas... don't forget I did drive one myself for 3 years, running 16/17s is so much fun

 

sir, would u like your rice to go or for here

 

LOL what a pointless but funny thread. I remember those top secret trannys I read about them in "Ricers Weekly"