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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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I posted this a long while back but I want to ask again since the answers were inconclusive. Me and my friend were talking about how fast our cars can go and his 96 accord was able to do 129 until the limiter hit. I just wanted to know what exactly are the top speeds of our maxima's VG's in general. I have heard that our cars don't have a speed limiter is that true? Can I test my true top speed if I can go and get a dyno done?
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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I don't think any USDM Hondas have limiters either...its just the car won't go any faster(drag and all that aerodynamic stuff) I got my old VG up to 130 and thats about it..either way it takes the VG about 10 years to get to 100 so finding the top speed is pretty pointless and boring
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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I've actually had my VG up to 125 mph, but i've seen websites that list the top speed at 138 mph. And hitting 100 happens in 3rd gear in my auto, and it doesn't take that long, and i know its faster than an accord
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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yeah, ditto on the accord deal. i know we can get up to 125, and ive seen my needle point after 125, but after that i cant tell. but i know it able of much more. i think im gonna get se gauges and see what they say
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Can you do a max speed on a dyno?
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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if you can find one thats set up for it
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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true. On some dynoes it tells the max speeds for the rpm levels before it hit the limiter.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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I don't think any USDM Hondas have limiters either...its just the car won't go any faster(drag and all that aerodynamic stuff) I got my old VG up to 130 and thats about it..either way it takes the VG about 10 years to get to 100 so finding the top speed is pretty pointless and boring

my vg gets to 100 very quickly maybe not as fast as a ve but it gets it pretty good
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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ive had both my 89 and my 90 se's buried at at 125 i know i was goin faster but you cant tell after 125...which reminds me about the upgrade to the 145 speedo that a .org member did and makes me want to get it done............ need to find tht link.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Can you do a max speed on a dyno?
Not accurately, your car doesnt have any wind drag on a dyno, so chances are you will be able to hit a much higher top speed on a dyno than on the street. Top speed of a VG will depend a lot on the condition of the engine, since its atleast 10 years old, but new it should do around 135mph.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 89badmaxse
my vg gets to 100 very quickly maybe not as fast as a ve but it gets it pretty good
okay, maybe not 10 years in a GXE...but its a close 8.5
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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ive had both my 89 and my 90 se's buried at at 125 i know i was goin faster but you cant tell after 125...which reminds me about the upgrade to the 145 speedo that a .org member did and makes me want to get it done............ need to find tht link.

Slow down speed racer. Seriously, be careful people. Acceleration is fun, but going 100+ on a public is really dangerous, and can get you in a lot of trouble. I have a "friend" who got arrested for traveling over 100. These days with new laws for "street racing" they can impound your car (you wont get it back) so be careful!
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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I've been to 138, though it takes an ungodly long amount of time to get there. Who cares about top speeds anyways, it's a Maxima and not a Ferrari!
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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it's a Maxima and not a Ferrari!
But I've got the prancing horse on my hood.....







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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Ive actually gotton my 94 Se to 145mph. It was against a EVO that made me look like i was going backward, but the evo driver stopped to give me props because he was shocked that the max was still hanging!!! DONT SLEEP!!!
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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this maybe a little off the topic since i drive a 92 SE, but i took my auto to 145 and it was at 4500 rpm and still accelerating with ease, im willing to bet it would top out at the rev limiter at 160 (maybe). Ohh and the car handled fine, no shaking, nothing on a stock suspension, wtg nissan
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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i've heard of a vg who's been clocked at 143 or so, so the vg can definitely do it. i hit 125 in 4th gear with a few rpm left to go and shifted to 5th and had another 1000 rpm so i just let it go from there. didn't really seem to take that long to go that fast (this is before the turbo)
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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Your friend will know if he hits the speed limiter. I had an 88 Celica and those have a limiter at 115. When you hit it, you can really feel it, because it cuts engine power.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MONSTERMAX
Ive actually gotton my 94 Se to 145mph. It was against a EVO that made me look like i was going backward, but the evo driver stopped to give me props because he was shocked that the max was still hanging!!! DONT SLEEP!!!

Thats weird. I ran with my boys EVO from 90-130 all in 4th and then he let off cuz he got 'scaird'. We started front bumper to bumper and he when he got off I was like 'I didn't even get into 5th yet' and his rear wheel was at my front bumper. EVOs are fast as hell out the hole but I've heard of a few of them getting owned on the highway including one by a 2K2 6sp Maxima with only an intake. I've had mine at the 145 a few times. I believe that automatic VE's are governed but i'm not so sure about the VGs. VE automatics come with H-rated tires and manuals come with V-rated. Cars are governed if their speeds are capable of going over the speed rating of the tires.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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none of the 3rd gen maximas were governed (except for the rev limiter at redline)
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
none of the 3rd gen maximas were governed (except for the rev limiter at redline)
mine is definately limited.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Logan91VE
mine is definately limited.
I tink he means USDM models...I wouldn't doubt yours is though, I find most JDM, EDM etc. model vehicles are speed limited as opposed to their USDM counterparts
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 89badmaxse
my vg gets to 100 very quickly maybe not as fast as a ve but it gets it pretty good

Same with me and I got me top speed up to 125
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by turdlett
Can you do a max speed on a dyno?
Not reliably.

A car spends 60 percent of it's energy cheating the wind (less if the aerodynamics are spot on, and maybe 70 percent in an SUV, a 3 ton brick) so I would not trust anything a dyno will tell you about the max speed of your car. The speed even varies with temperature, pressure, etc as much as 15 mph..

Besides you have a third gen Maxima, why do you want to even go that fast? I mostly prefer to cruise and hit it occasionally..

Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by aeubank
Not reliably.

A car spends 60 percent of it's energy cheating the wind (less if the aerodynamics are spot on, and maybe 70 percent in an SUV, a 3 ton brick) so I would not trust anything a dyno will tell you about the max speed of your car. The speed even varies with temperature, pressure, etc as much as 15 mph..

Besides you have a third gen Maxima, why do you want to even go that fast? I mostly prefer to cruise and hit it occasionally..


Care to explain where the other 40% goes? Some will be driveline loss, but assuming you're on level ground, all your power will go to overcoming wind resistance (assuming top speed). Percentages should be the same for any car, assuming same driveline loss.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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I had to get across Atlanta awfully quick one afternoon for a family emergency, and pegged my 92SE at 140 mph for about 15 minutes. No over heating, nothing. Sure, it was stupid-dangerous; but was the car capable? Sure.

I'll never go anywhere near there again. I only did 125 in the TTZ, and that was by accident. (Its scary fun to pass someone doing 75, look down a moment later, and see 125).
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Hmm so I'm assuming from these posts that our cars have a cutoff at redline which is good to know cause I'm scared to come close to redline in case there isn't one so if this is true I can now shift closer to redline with ease. Haven't gotten that fast with my se yet cause the tires are only s rated as soon as I get new tires I'll try it out. Fastest I've ever gone was 145mph in my 2000 Celica GTS and it was against a 4 cycliner Accord coupe I don't know what the hell was in that thing but it took me to 145 to finally pass it. Don't worry it was 3 in the morning on a interstate so no room for causing a accident I'll never even think of going that fast unless its in the middle of the night.
Old Feb 26, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Magowin
Hmm so I'm assuming from these posts that our cars have a cutoff at redline which is good to know cause I'm scared to come close to redline in case there isn't one so if this is true I can now shift closer to redline with ease. Haven't gotten that fast with my se yet cause the tires are only s rated as soon as I get new tires I'll try it out. Fastest I've ever gone was 145mph in my 2000 Celica GTS and it was against a 4 cycliner Accord coupe I don't know what the hell was in that thing but it took me to 145 to finally pass it. Don't worry it was 3 in the morning on a interstate so no room for causing a accident I'll never even think of going that fast unless its in the middle of the night.
not to flame you but most street racing is at night due to this.
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Originally Posted by Magowin
Hmm so I'm assuming from these posts that our cars have a cutoff at redline which is good to know cause I'm scared to come close to redline in case there isn't one so if this is true I can now shift closer to redline with ease. Haven't gotten that fast with my se yet cause the tires are only s rated as soon as I get new tires I'll try it out. Fastest I've ever gone was 145mph in my 2000 Celica GTS and it was against a 4 cycliner Accord coupe I don't know what the hell was in that thing but it took me to 145 to finally pass it. Don't worry it was 3 in the morning on a interstate so no room for causing a accident I'll never even think of going that fast unless its in the middle of the night.
yeah, there is a fuel cut off at redline on our cars so we can't over rev our engines (even though they will spin just a bit faster when you hit redline at least according to my s-afc). what really sucks about it, though, is the fuel cools down the cylinders a bit and when you hit fuel cut you can detonate a little bit. the best limiter is probably an ignition cut so that you're still getting fuel in there to keep temps down. my s-afc reads some knock if i get close to or hit the fuel cut. can't wait to raise the rev limiter and let my msd 6al control it the rev limit.
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I got to 140 in my ve pretty easy. Could easily have hit 150 or beyond. That's w/ only a y-pipe and HF cat. It seems like the VG should be able to come close to that, maybe minus 10mph????
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i think i read on this board that the gearing in the ve is a bit different which would actually give the ve a lower top speed (per the gearing/going to redline) compared to the vg but since the ve is more powerful it would have more power to push through the wind.

that might have sounded a bit confusing...
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
i think i read on this board that the gearing in the ve is a bit different which would actually give the ve a lower top speed (per the gearing/going to redline) compared to the vg but since the ve is more powerful it would have more power to push through the wind.

that might have sounded a bit confusing...
it doesnt sound confusing but it sounds reasonable
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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I got my 93 SE up to 139 and thats without redline. I was worried about my engine so I took it easy. But regardless I kept up with 4th gen's and a boosted 5th gen pretty good.
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Care to explain where the other 40% goes? Some will be driveline loss, but assuming you're on level ground, all your power will go to overcoming wind resistance (assuming top speed). Percentages should be the same for any car, assuming same driveline loss.

Weight wouldnt have anything to do with it....... NAH!
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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so what r we lookin at for top speed on vgs as limited by wind drag?
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by masssmail
Weight wouldnt have anything to do with it....... NAH!

Sir Isaac Newton says it doesn't.
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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155 here and still pulling hard. I let off b/c a slight blind overpass was coming up and I couldn't see in front of me more than a mile.

Since the speedo ends at 145, all I could do is see the needle BURIED atleast 10mph beyond that.
Old Feb 27, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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I wish I can get an external digital speedometer so I can know what I am capable of doing. BTW my car will be back in my possesion hopefully tomorrow. Tranny issues.
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I wish I can get an external digital speedometer so I can know what I am capable of doing. BTW my car will be back in my possesion hopefully tomorrow. Tranny issues.

Get a GPS receiver. Mine's accurate to 0.1 MPH up to some ridiculus speed, 900 MPH, I think. Like $300, not too bad.
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