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does a vg30de fit?

Old May 1, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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does a vg30de fit?

i can't access the search on the forum yet so i can't look for a vg30de swap. i'll probably get flamed for this one but i'm a newb and i was wondering just like the subject said.. does a vg30de fit into my 3rd gen? without major modifications needed? my cousin is throwing away his non-turbo engine and i was just wondering.
Old May 1, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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dang, if he throwing it away i'll take it and find out for you. it is said that it won't fit but i want to actually try making it fit. if i can, then i would be using those engines for my project maxima in the near future.
Old May 1, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Old May 1, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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hahahaha, i second that motion
Old May 1, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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this forums sucks

you guys are no help..
Old May 1, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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why is everyone so excited about puttin in a different engine, be happy with the one you have or go buy a car with the engine you want...the reason everyone doesn't care to help is because everytime there's a new member they pass right by the stickies and FAQs and say "HEY CAN I PUT A 350Z ENGINE IN MY CAR BECAUSE I WANT 6 MORE HP" FAQs people! FAQs!
Old May 1, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Ok 1st thing you do is get a tape measure and move it out to 27in. Next put that on your firewall and see how far it comes to the radiator. The VG30DE is 27in wide.
Old May 1, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Too bad there are no popup messages for when new members join stating something along the lines of: "No you cannot swap engines from other cars into your Maxima" and "No there are no turbo kits for your car" and "Yes, that ticking noise you are hearing is VTC's" and " (insert answer to most frequently asked question here) ", etc...
Old May 2, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguax
Too bad there are no popup messages for when new members join stating something along the lines of: "No you cannot swap engines from other cars into your Maxima" and "No there are no turbo kits for your car" and "Yes, that ticking noise you are hearing is VTC's" and " (insert answer to most frequently asked question here) ", etc...

Yes i agree BUt someone must go ahead and do the ve in vg swap and get it over that way they can tell us its not that bad to do and stop being scared of
it! im still going back out to junk yard monday to see if I have spotted the swap
and take pics. It would be mighty funny if some had switched all the trim on one to the gxe trim. gauges,door trim ,tail lense , but ill get them pics monday and the vins to see for sure.
Old May 2, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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You can fit an SR20DET in there....that is if you're looking for a nice DOWNgrade.
Old May 2, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jaguax
Too bad there are no popup messages for when new members join stating something along the lines of: "No you cannot swap engines from other cars into your Maxima" and "No there are no turbo kits for your car" and "Yes, that ticking noise you are hearing is VTC's" and " (insert answer to most frequently asked question here) ", etc...

You're kind of wrong. Ask Mtcookson what type of engine is in his car. He's also turboed.
Old May 2, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Engloid
You can fit an SR20DET in there....that is if you're looking for a nice DOWNgrade.
Hmmm, if by downgrade you mean more power, then yes. Stock SR20DET puts out more power than either 3rd gen engine, and modifieds can put out more than both combined. The black top SR puts out 245hp stock, which is 55hp more than the VE, and 85 more horsepower the an VG!!!

That aside, how much do you know about swapping a SR into a maxima?
Old May 2, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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He probably means because the SR might be a 4 banger. Not too sure though. Either way any car that has an SR engine in it will burn a maxima flat.
Old May 2, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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RTFS - Read the Fockin Stickies

Masssmail..... wudaboot torque.

besides, no one wants a 4banger
Old May 2, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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Here:
https://maxima.org/forums/4th-generation-maxima-1995-1999/306649-how-much-worth.html
I don't think there is much of a difference in size between the vg30de and vg30dett, other than the turbos. The above link is what is known as a "sticky" and it's amazing what information you will find there

MrGone, I wouldn't mind a four-banger, like an Evo VIII, WRX STI, 240sx w/ a sr20det swap, heck even a plain WRX will beat all but maybe a few 3rd gen maximas in the 1/4. The sr20det may lack some torque but I'm sure it's lighter than our motor too.
Old May 2, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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putting in that 4 banger will lighten the maxima's load by probably 2-300 pounds. I wouldn't mind this downgrade. But putting an SR into a max will be difficult due to the FR drivetran it's used to.
Old May 2, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by masssmail
Hmmm, if by downgrade you mean more power, then yes. Stock SR20DET puts out more power than either 3rd gen engine, and modifieds can put out more than both combined. The black top SR puts out 245hp stock, which is 55hp more than the VE, and 85 more horsepower the an VG!!!
As you likely know, there's quite a few engines that are VG's.. and the ones in the maximas were really the lowest rated ones. Look at the VG30DET.. 260hp stock. Odd how they have much better flowing heads, but rated 40hp under the VG30DETT. It's probably attributed to boost being lower or some external thing, not the actual engine itself.

If you're swapping stock for stock, sure...the SR20 is better than the vg30e. But if you have a realistic sense of the value of money, put half that into your 6cyl and get more hp.

There are many 4cyl engines out there that put out more power than the v8's of yesterday, but you don't see anybody pulling the v8 and putting in a 4cyl do you?

It's a matter of dollars and sense. If you have more dollars, put in the SR. If you have more sense, keep the v6.

Originally Posted by masssmail
That aside, how much do you know about swapping a SR into a maxima?
I have absolutely no interest in knowing, so I havn't done any research or gone out of my way to find info on it.
Old May 2, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Engloid
There are many 4cyl engines out there that put out more power than the v8's of yesterday, but you don't see anybody pulling the v8 and putting in a 4cyl do you?
I hope your talking about the smog dog V8's
and those things still made more torque than most 4bangers ever will
Old May 2, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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I hope your talking about the smog dog V8's
and those things still made more torque than most 4bangers ever will
Some of the, yes. Many also had slower 1/4 mile times too.

Speed isn't all about torque, hp, or even bling factor (surprise to many). It's a combination of many things (but the bling).

To get an SR20 and harness will run you about $2000+. That will net you the stock 245hp. Now, if you put that into your vg30, how much hp do you think you can get?
Old May 2, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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60's/70's tire technology is not what it is today..... you cant exactly hookup well with polyglass tires.....
Old May 2, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
60's/70's tire technology is not what it is today..... you cant exactly hookup well with polyglass tires.....
ok, so you feel more comfortable comparing your engine to a newer 4 cylinder. How about the current engine in a new Sentra? I'm sure that will drive your cost up higher than the SR20 engine would. That would start you out with about 160hp (dunno exact Sentra specs) for probably about $4000.

I think you could still get more out of your v6 engine for way less money.

The SR20 is all about some stupid JDM craze, which seems to think that the SR20 is the greatest engine ever. You're more likely to get in a magazine with an SR20 in your Datsun 510 than if you put a v8 in a Corvair.
Old May 2, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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You're kind of wrong. Ask Mtcookson what type of engine is in his car. He's also turboed.
I meant that different engines cannot easily be swapped in, and I said there is no turbo KIT for our cars. It is all totally custom work. What kind of engine does he have?
Old May 2, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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VG30et. I was just being an a$$. I know their are no kits for the maxima's. But the only real thing you'll need to change is the manifold and do the x-pipe. Everything else is bolt on. It came from a 84-89 300zx z32 model.
Old May 2, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Engloid
ok, so you feel more comfortable comparing your engine to a newer 4 cylinder. How about the current engine in a new Sentra? I'm sure that will drive your cost up higher than the SR20 engine would. That would start you out with about 160hp (dunno exact Sentra specs) for probably about $4000.

I think you could still get more out of your v6 engine for way less money.

The SR20 is all about some stupid JDM craze, which seems to think that the SR20 is the greatest engine ever. You're more likely to get in a magazine with an SR20 in your Datsun 510 than if you put a v8 in a Corvair.
While I certainly don't want a 4 banger, you have to admit they are not what they used to be. Turbos and technology have pushed 4 bangers into the 500hp/TQ+ range. If you look at the cost to build up a v6, you need more complicated manifolds, more injectors, bigger turbos, bigger intercoolers, more pistons, more valves, etc etc. 4s may never have the same torque curves as a v6 or v8, but they are not to be under estimated is all I am saying.
Old May 2, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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I'd rather have a pacemaker like V8 than a hearing aid killing I4.

(forgive me, but just being at the track yesterday and hearing little hondas bouncing off the rev limiter with no exhaust in the staging lanes and water box gets really really annoying. )
Old May 2, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
I'd rather have a pacemaker like V8 than a hearing aid killing I4.

(forgive me, but just being at the track yesterday and hearing little hondas bouncing off the rev limiter with no exhaust in the staging lanes and water box gets really really annoying. )
I agree. I'm going to be having some downtime with my max and I'll kind of enjoy driving my V-8 blazer with dual exhaust, sounds mean
Old May 2, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
(forgive me, but just being at the track yesterday and hearing little hondas bouncing off the rev limiter with no exhaust in the staging lanes and water box gets really really annoying. )
you'd hate my CRX(when it was running) 2-step owns joo...got flames??? :
Old May 2, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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I have an 86 4wd, V6 Ranger with only about 2 feet of pipe after the catalytic converter... sounds pretty mean. haha

It actually runs ok, but it's taking some money to get it in better functional shape. I spent $100 on brake parts today. $32 for each front hose, $13 for each caliper, $8 for pins.... the crap adds up. Although the calipers are cheap compared to the nissan ones, you should see the crappy design of the pins. It's 2 pieces of steel, bent in the middle to form a long diamond shaped pin...with rubber between them so that they don't touch. You just hammer them in and out with nothing else holding them in. Really sorry design. I think the best design of brakes I've seen so far was on a Toyota, and Nissan isn't poor, just not quite as good. Anyway, enough hijacking this thread...
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